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- Aggressive approach with Studs leading - Contact above the knee - Lucky to avoid serious injury Haud yer wheesht Higginbotham and stop making a Jeremy Hunt of yourself.

I wouldn't disagree that it is unpleasant. I just hope that a workable vehicle comes out of the other end with people in charge who are competent 'team players' pulling in the same positive direction and not the Machiavellian selfish agendas of individuals and back-stabbing politics we have become accustomed to. I take the simple view that to look forward and change positively, it isn't a good idea to return the same people who have been so involved with problems in the past.

1987 Rangers v Dynamo Kiev

Yes, the two directors and RF election candidates could simply explain.

Google: A person in accordance with whose directions or instructions the directors of a company are accustomed to act eg. Sandy Easdale was at times considered by some to act as one / RIFC (company) edit. Bluedell's example is better. Easdale might have been a go between.

Google: A person in accordance with whose directions or instructions the directors of a company are accustomed to act eg. Sandy Easdale was at times considered by some to be one / RIFC (company)

The questions of why incorporate RIFCLtd (see other thread for details) and what is it intended for is one that the two directors and candidates for this election really need to answer.

Some of it may be OTT (as in sliding into abuse) but some is very relevant as you look back in history. Nor has BH played particularly 'nice' in his campaign. This thread is about a specific issue and isn't to "attack", it's about this recently incorporated RIFCLtd and looking for clarity on it or anything similar.

No Andy, it's a question that could do with some kind real answer rather than evasion. We have an RF election,... proposed mergers,... suddenly what appears to be a 'contingency fans group vehicle' incorporated... and 48 hours ago BH inferring that there may be more truth in what Frankie said about alternative groups springing up than he could imagine.

I didn't say you did but in the light of this alternative fans consortium having been incorporated last month......I was asking you to explain the remark you made to Frankie. Your attempt to brush it off by saying I didn't understand properly doesn't wash.

I don't want to jump anywhere. I would like you to tell Gersnet exactly what you referred to when you said "There may be more truth in your last point than you imagine". That last point of Frankie's being "we can be damn sure an alternative group will again spring up quicker than you can say Monty Python." Are you really really sure it had nothing to do with 'The Rangers Independent Fans Consortium Ltd' ?...Because in the absence of a tangible explanation regards what you inferred to Frankie, it smells.

The only thing I can envisage is a contingency vehicle put in place last month to use in the case of not being elected but that is a guess and it would be better if the two involved clarified.

OK, what were you refering to in the conversation with Frankie ?

But in the 3rd post of that thread, there is a further question. You indicated to Frankie 48 hours ago that you knew of an alternative group in the pipline. If it wasn't The Rangers Independent Fans Consortium Ltd,...what was it ?

It was actually a reply to 'Gunslinger'. With you BH, the 'red card' always comes a bit later in the process. But as some football players often say, 'it wisnae my fault, honest Guv'......then they say the same the next time. It's time you recognised this unfortunate habit, we need something different and not the same old players with a history of negative bickering.

Updated OP with link. https://www.endole.co.uk/company/SC524748/the-rangers-independent-fans-consortium-limited

BH Now that you are on can you tell us what you know about 'The Rangers Independent Fans Consortium Ltd' please. For more detail there is a seperate thread http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?75632-The-Rangers-Independent-Fans-Consortium-Ltd-(another-group-)

It's not about AH falling out with FF though, it's what seems to be an inevitable trajectory towards implosion in various groups/boards. If it had only been once, I'd be less inclined to make a point of highlighting it but it isn't..........and it's not always somebody else's fault. It's surely time for others to make a go of it, some that are perhaps better team players rather than those with a 'history'.

This consortium/group made me think of a conversation on here a day or so ago. It was a few lines in bold text between Frankie and BH on the 'Chairman's update' thread http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?75536-Chairman%92s-Update-To-Supporters/page6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That would suggest BH knew something in advance about this consortium (or less likely, other plans we don't know about). Could BH expand please.

Someone on FF has noticed that the company 'The Rangers Independent Fans Consortium Ltd' (RIFCLtd) was incorporated on the 20th January this year. Link below https://www.endole.co.uk/company/SC524748/the-rangers-independent-fans-consortium-limited - The two directors of RIFCLtd are also standing in the Rangers First Elections,...Graham Campbell and Ronald Johnston. - There doesn't seem to be any mention of the company, RIFCLtd in any of their campaign literature. - Someone on FF who should know said it wasn't the vehicle for the proposed merger. I'm sure GC and/or RJ can tell us what another fansgroup vehicle is waiting in the wings for. Given dates, circumstances and who directors are,......a contingency if they lost is the only thing I can think of but it'd be better for the candidates to speak,

That is then something for the RF to deal with. What about your repeated, acrimonious and unfortunate past when involved with fans groups/boards etc ? It seems as if in these last 2 or 3 days you have taken off from where you left things and it is fairly obvious as to why that past has consistently ended up being 'unfortunate' wherever you have laid your hat. I take the view that despite your skills, history shows you generate a toxicity of sorts that sooner or later will come to the fore and manifest itself in a negative way for whatever it is you happen to be associated with. To speak clearly,.... IMO we need to break with the past consistent negatives and you shouldn't be part of a new Rangers fan intiative .

Are you saying RG gets paid by the club or does he get expenses for what is an ambassadorial role ? Is your strategy to eliminate opponents and not speak about your own unfortunate past when involved with fans groups etc ?

Well, well..... I thought BH sounded as if he'd changed from stirring mode to canvassing mode in the last 24-48 hours. At least his track record is fairly consistent over varying timescales. 1. Stir 2. Canvass 3. Implosion 4. Moan

However intelligent or good at administrative issues some people are they sometimes have a weakness that looms large in certain situations. The Internet and it's social netwoks have become a place where such a weakness can be see by many immediately after being made. You can often extapolate those obvious weaknesses to more private events/results and looking back historically you can better guess as to how that 'result' came about. When a pattern of similar 'results' occurs on various occasions, then you can make a more informed guess as to how things are going to work out in the future.

You are coming accross as if you were in canvassing for votes mode. Surely not the Donald Trump of Glasgow 2016 ...