buster.

This discussion is becoming divisory from the outset. Why not study the proposals that the vast majority of members voted for their respective boards to do and take it from there ?.......There are obviously valid concerns and the boards will have to consider them and won't be able not to,..... given the scrutiny. We live in an era where Board Meetings get more attention than Match threads

Here is hoping that any proposals for a merger are constructive, positive and workable............and that the various groups can come together, move forward and start a fresh era where the discussion isn't so confrontational. Aggressive division has been one of the main characteristics of the fans groups over a number of years and it has been actively encouraged and exploited to our cost by the allegedly fraudulant and their friends. However difficult it may be, we have to turn this around. We can criticise the club for X and Y but perhaps we need to push towards what is actually within our own ambit. Any process towards this may be complicated, contentious with lively and 'aggressive debate' but it's what comes out the other end is that is important.

Waghorn tweeting 6-8 weeks.

"Martyn will be sidelined for a number of weeks." Don't like the vagueness when it comes to injuries as it often turns out worse re. time out. We'll just have to forget about him and get on with it.

Official Martyn will be sidelined for a number of weeks. http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/martyn-waghorn-injury-update/

Enough of ** The more relevant is moving forward and hopefully the RF have a constructive meeting this evening.

OK BH ! I have since found them but they are a week old so how that can be perceived as "congratulations" beats me, but never mind. Anyway, I think we are now finished.......'let's call it a draw' 3:cheers:

Post-March 2015 (regime change) the club has started on a recovery process that has all kinds of obstacles to overcome, on the field, financial, legal, the onerous etc., etc. It would seem to me that the fans at an organisational level have a seperate process to go through that will have it's own problems, differing opinions, confrontation, harsh truths, 'casaulties' etc., etc. Converting from what has been very divisory to a more united front (even if only all wanting the same thing) will be difficult because we have been divided for so long. The story of the division, how it came about, developed and how it was used by past regimes in the boardroom is a long and complicated one, perhaps without precedent in UK sport. Differing opinions is fine and necessary but we took it up a few levels. The road back to where we (fans) should be will have bumps and contentious moments but the important thing is the collective get there.

One last reply...... I didn't see those comments yesterday and they are not "congratulations" but more as I said simply agreeing with my line (can you send a link by PM please) ,...although they aren't accurate, as many on RM agreed with what I was saying. Good to see you have an FF log-in at last. One very serious point BH and it goes back to my initial reply to you last night. When will you start taking responsibility for your past instead of always pointing to others and saying 'it wisnae my fault' ? When you talk of others sniping at you as your head is shown above the parapet. You seem to paint yourself as completely innocent and the sniping as unreasonable gratuitous criticism that has nothing to do with reality or can't be explained away. Granted, some of the abuse you receive is unwarrented but the reasons behind the heavy criticism haven't all been invented by Jack Anoray. Your history can't be wiped and you only added to what has become a toxicity of sorts by the way you started off with a negative campaign against others............(something else you try to explain away). To end on a positive Here's hoping the various fans groups can have constructive dialogue that see us become a stronger collective, whatever route that may take.

I'd settle for 6 weeks as knees can be 'bastards' !

Can't let this accusation go without further comment. I have just been over to FF for the first time today and I see NO comment 'on my efforts' , never mind "congratulations". So you can withdraw that line. Aswell as the following foggy "I am sorely tempted to say more" charge..........or back it up on here or to me by PM.

The post you replied to was simply what I think regards the future and you are obviously free to ignore it, no problems. Re. FF I think you'll find that most people simply agreed with me. I agree regards there being little point in drawing this out further, good night.

Better be a clause to call him back if needed or provisional plans to bring in a short-term unregistered player.

Not good as if accurate, by the time he's up and running it'll be the Petrofac Cup Final and 3 or 4 League games left. Danger is obviously further injuries.

I think you'll probably find that many learn from this election and make more of a conscious effort to make more contact with members so as to become known and get accross their message. Social media being their friend.

Yes, the best of luck for all those elected. --------------------------------------------------------------------- BH, don't take this the wrong way but I'd advise you to reflect on the real reasons as to why so many see you as toxic for any fans group/board going forward and realise that if there is to be positive change going forward for fans groups and the club, then the consistent 'baggage' that accompanies your skills isn't what is needed, now or in the future.

They fly the Palestinian flag but in this are more Israeli like.

Yes ! If 'campaign' continues it presents an opportunity to ridicule them in a professional and public fashion. Unfortunately, I doubt those who know what they are doing will pursue a 'campaign' built on sand.

Nothing like an injurytime 'bullet header' to win a cup-tie. Very well taken

If there had been 22 women and one man then I'm sure electioneering may have have taken on a different slant with members preferring portfolios to profiles. ...

Count up all the times we've had headlines about moving to England, Atlantic League etc. Now count up all the times something actually happened.

Perhaps the women feel in their water that violence is less probable at a match rather than at a fans meeting

A lot of posturing recently that is most probably designed firstly to influence any negotiations regards UEFA tournament reform.

Caught Red-Handed ! ...

In politics, if you go about things in that way then don't get caught.