buster.

Rodgers doesn't do European football very well. If you look at his results with Liverpool, it's not dissimilar in pattern to his current club. ie. He's not really 'the messiah' as the media up here seem to believe.

When you try and jump several levels in one go by repeatedly recruiting once quality footballers and expecting them to revisit their glory years, then you are IMO, chasing losses. Beyond that, you have the managerial issues that have been fundamental to our footballing problems. Warburton was a good appointment on sound logic but something happened to his relationship with (part of) the board after the 2016 Cup semi-final and from there, it was a matter of time. Caixinha was a disasterous appointment, period. Murty got the interim gig partly because of how difficult it was to find an adequate replacement and it's been the same rollercoaster but with some hope that the football operation was starting to take shape. However, not that surprisingly, Murty himself has found the pressure too great and we can all see he isn't cut out for it. We need leadership, constructive management, honesty and realistic expecation levels within as much finance as the board can raise. Without it, we'll be a dysfunctional football club that serves as a comedy show for the rest of Scottish football.

The weight of expectation (allied to finances and timescale) that bears down on the club is totally unrealistic but nevertheless, it is employed to make judgements on what is happening. Those that say that this is BS will offer what is presently akin to empty rhetoric in their argument. What has happened comes from too many of the major football operation decisions that resemble chasing losses at the bookies (eg. managerial appointments and summer transfer windows). Those on the outside (eg. managerial candidates) can see this and many of them won't want anything to do with it unless they can't find a job elsewhere or see real steps towards something better.

Agreed, it's an omnishambolic circus with various 'factions' trying to curry favour with the support (against tuther faction) when none of them deserve it.

".....For some players it did seem to matter...." With most of them, it seems the passion kicks in when they themselves are questioned and/or are not playing.

Re yesterdays meeting at Ibrox Chris McLaughlin (BBC Scotland): "............a meeting that lasted around an hour and 20 minutes........" The Sun: "Kenny Miller and Lee Wallace told by Rangers chiefs their Ibrox careers were doomed in meeting lasting TWO minutes......."

It's rumoured that Mrs Miller is going to start a podcast on Thursday where apart from informing the world about Sundays starting XI, she will be going head to head with Keith Jackson to see who gets the most out of Kenny.

Agreed re. "listening to the fans", it's a catch all line that doesn't stand-up to scrutiny. Rather than filing in behind the customery divisions between X and Y, I see an omnishambolic circus where various degrees of blame can be apportioned to just about everyone involved.

It was the safest prediction of the weekend.......... Keith Jackson get's the inside slant on it from his man 'close to' the story, AGAIN. "...........Word has it Miller and Wallace were spotted late at night in the team hotel before Sunday’s mismatch, locked in a stony-faced conversation about Murty’s tactical plan. It looked very much to those who witnessed this conversation as if they had unlocked some serious flaws in Murty’s orders. If so, they were hardly wrong............"

Denying the opposing team or an opponent a goal or an obvious goal scoring opportunity (A4) 1 match automatic suspension Effective immediately to the next match in the Competition in which the sending-off offence was reported https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1849/suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf edit. text above applies to League competitions but if you read further down the same page on link, you'll see it is the same for the Cup.

Have we went 4 years back in time ?

Good effort lads !

You are a UK manager contacted by Rangers this afternoon.....What is one of the things you are going to do ? - Call Mark Warburton/Davie Weir - Call Derek McInnes

Wave cheerio to those players by all means but they'll wave a contract back at you.

Where are your alternatives ?

At some points of our history, it would have....but not now. The desperation for a winning team would have us applauding pragmatism for at least a season.

To convince a 'top manager' to come to Ibrox, you would need to pay him top dollar and provide an extensive transfer budget. When celtic did it, they already had a reasonable to decent squad and the player spend went on Sinclair and Dembele. There are players at Ibrox that a good manager would be able to get more from but there are quite a few that are not up to it. Due to the capacity of their stadium they were also able to increase ST sales significantly. This season, we sold just about as many ST's as we can.

I think we'd respond quite well to winning 6 league games IAR (and counting) and beating celtic.

Apart from seeing no hope, can you see any candidates out there that fit the bill for you ?

As I've said before, it's Clarke for me but I don't think he'd want the job.

Jacko will be typing as we speak................

I don't know much about Hoddle in recent years but I agree re. McLaren. Bringing in 'Mr. Hair Island' would be like adding yet another layer of hilarity for the rest of Scottish football.

Whoi would 'do it' for you ?

Yes, but the same goes for whatever the specific I.D. of that kind of appointment and even moreso if they have no real previous connection to the club. At a guess, I think it's heading towards an English Championship level manager who is probably out of work, eg. Steve McLaren or similar.

A good example of 'the type of manager who could deal with the pressure' BUT ignoring his age/retirement for a moment,......if you told him you'd need to do it on a limited budget then I doubt that he would want the job.