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the gunslinger said: There members stalk about other forums issuing threats of violence to anyone who disagrees with them. Thats my experience of them. Its not ideal pr ------------------ bill said If that’s true it’s utterly unacceptable. I’d like to see some evidence of it however, since I don’t go on any other forums to experience it. I’ve never seen it on here but there again I’m a relatively recent arrival. I have seen a few stalkers here though but mainly the prissy variety ------------------ Bill, if you are looking for 'evidence' of that kind of intrinsic thought process, even if done in an indirect and subtle manner then you could a look at your own post from yesterday when you told those "taking cheap shots" ....." If you feel so strongly why not take your views directly to VB".

Excellent summing up of the situation, Pete ! If we don't get a win on Sunday, it's difficult to see where we'll get one at all post-split. Post the very different circumstances of the victorious semi-final in 2016, we played 5 games and didn't win any. I see that month as the moment when something important changed and we entered what has become a long omnishambolic period wrt the first team affairs. One that I thought had perhaps ended at the beginning of this year, but I was wrong. 'Flashing Blade' /....those were the days

I think most of us disagree. The thing is, the logic that AJ uses to justify keeping to the plan of reviewing matters at the end of the season might be overtaken by events this weekend. In that case, you'd have another layer of ridicule for the media to jump on. Wrt the football, if we don't pick up three points on Sunday and Kilmarnock beat Aberdeen at Rugby Park, you have the outside chance but real possibility of A 5th place finish and no European qualification. Three points is very important this weekend.

We don't know the dynamic in the dressing room but Nicholls arrival coincided with a sharp upturn in consistency of result and we were flying for 2-3 months, bar the Hibs defeat at Ibrox. The defeat to Celtic at Ibrox knocked the place for six, has since shown up our fragility and the need for change.

Simply C&P the Utube page address into the post and the above appears.

Yes and no, never saw Chairmans address.

"institutional failure" Alastair Johnston October 2017

Generally AJ has been fairly precise with his language unless legalities have prevented him. I'd say that the quotes in that article come accross as an uncharacteristically desperate attempt at an informal holding statement.

But IIRC you told us earlier this week...............that you once did but found it too stifling and had to leave...................... (feel free to correct details). It's funny but if I had been asked who was the one poster in The Lounge that had been in the VB,....I'd have thought about it for about 5 seconds and then went...'Of course, Bill !"

Doesn't specify but I think he just means there have been ups and downs and the board intend to do as they first stated.

Moments, yes !

That's certainly a typical VB line (at least from some that I encountered on forums) and actually says more about them than I did.

Aye and that perhaps reflects on their members.

I'm not really defending him, it's woefully out of touch and makes you wonder just what is going on. The thing is, with ST renewals out there, they really need to be as frank as they can. It would have been better saying nothing than what has been reported in that article. Perhaps there was actually more said but the newspaper only give part of it.

AJ isn't stupid, I'm sure he realises what the ideal course of action would be and that the potential for further ugly scenes is very real. Not to mention the small matter of results and European qualification. I think it may be that there are very few options open to them at this present moment, for several different reasons.

Deserves it's own thread Intention remains for Murty to stay until end of season Full article https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2528616/rangers-alastair-johnston-graeme-murty/ Part of.......... ..................However, USA-based Johnston, who joined the Rangers board last June having been chairman of the club between 2009 and 2011, insists the board will take emotion out of their decision on the future of the club’s former under-20s coach. He said: “We have had the discipline of saying that we will evaluate the situation at the end of the season and the reason that we chose that is that at any given time during the period of his tenure there has been a lot of support for him and sometimes there has been not so much support. “We as a board have to take a very objective view and not be kind of swayed by the last result, whether it is positive or negative. “Certainly the weekend wasn’t a good weekend for us. I was there. “But as I said we have to be disciplined as a board and not be swayed by the emotions at any one game. “We have to look at the big picture. We owe that to the club, that’s what we are in place to do.” ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- The above will stoke anger rather than stifle it and the board may be made to look even more foolish by having to tear those words up 4 days after coming out with them.

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They seem to represent a marginal group of the support, so no surprise !

@RonnieEsplin On @PA sport wire soon. @RangersFC director Alastair Johnston on the club's progress and Graeme Murty. https://mobile.twitter.com/RonnieEsplin/status/987016633364434950

Genuine ITK poster on FF has posted the following.............. derek5287 said: ↑

Who do you want as Manager? Poll on FF with following numbers Frank De Boer.......................... 64 vote(s) Giovanni Van Bronckhorst .......90 vote(s) Michel Preud'homme.............. 88 vote(s) Graeme Murty........................... 3 vote(s) Alex Neil..................................... 14 vote(s) Steve Clark ...............................78 vote(s) Derek McInnes........................ 1 vote(s) Neil Warnock.......................... 131 vote(s) Billy Davies............................... 3 vote(s) Slaven Billic ..............................21 vote(s) Robbie Neilson......................... 1 vote(s) Alan Pardew..............................5 vote(s) Jack Ross.................................. 7 vote(s) Steve McClaren....................... 10 vote(s) Other (Please state)................ 35 vote(s) ------------------- I tried to put a poll up on here but I'm either IT challenged or the sysytem didn't allow me.

My late mother used to tell I could get run over by a car if I don't start using the 'green man' at traffic lights.

I thought Nicholl was a smart appointment to compliment Murty and after the American trip in January, it did seem to produce an enviroment where the team was scoring goals, winning games and enjoying their football. But since the defeat to Celtic at Ibrox, the fragility of the squad and management has re-surfaced, been rag-dolled in the media and most don't seem to be of the right stuff to withstand it. We don't know what Nicholl thinks, wants or how he is now considered by others, so although he may seem an obvious stop-gap, for one reason or another, maybe he isn't.