buster.

That is contradicted by the Roddy Forsyth piece or in other words there is a lot of noise out there at this time and whilst budgets will be a fundamental issue wrt negotiations, we won't really know until we really know.

With the news that Murty has stepped down, the silence would seem to have had a good reason behind it. AJ's words about Murty a week or so ago now look predictably hollow and you have a board that don't look very clever.

Good, the dam needed to break. The status quo wouldn't have been pretty to watch for the next few weeks. I guess it's been delayed until the club have someone to step-in. What about Rosseau ?

What Danny Murphy quotes ?

Agreed. If you have nothing to say, it's best you stay silent. Too often the club have come out with clumsey statements that are designed to placate the support in the very short-ter, opposed to having any real effect on events. Regards the aftermatch interviews, there have been rumours of why that decision may have been taken. It would certainly seem as if something out of the ordinary happened for a 'lockdown' decision to have been made. As an aside (relevant or not), I don't think Jim Traynor is the man that Rangers should have making any such decisions or writing statements. He isn't up to it and his apparent output comes accross to me as generally angry reactionism that doesn't work, opposed to having a base in intelligent thought.

When given the job until the end of the season, Murty literaly got spruced up, put the suit on and pretty much seemed to decide that this was an opportunity opposed to the very short-term stopgap he'd been before. Prior to that, the warning signs were there in GM's reaction to defeat at Dundee. It was unusual and awkward watching him struggling to hold back tears. God knows what the players made of that. The board apporinted Jimmy Nicholl in what I considered to be a smart move to bolster the man-management aspect of the coaching team as they went over to the States for a Winter trip. It certainly didn't do any harm when you look at how the next 2 to 3 months went. Happy players were scoring goals, winning football matches and making many think that Murty might actually be the answer. At that point Murty enjoyed the praise. He was a manager who in two games against Celtic hadn't been beaten but it was that opposition who would show how fragile the current set-up actually was. It showed that our dressing room was splintered and Murty didn't have any control. No leadership anywhere, just a collection of individuals doing their own thing, badly. Murty isn't a person who should be immune to criticism but he is far from the only one and IMO he shouldn't have been given the extended gig in the first place.

Well done lads ! Smoother, shorter (better for it) and well balanced between the three

It's a done deal when it's done.

Perseverence (or jumping off a cliff) seems to be quite common amongst some that try and convey 'modern approaches', eg. Warburton and Rodgers (in Europe). I think there is a point when players must shrug their shoulders, wonder wthef and go out onto the park with a sense of inevitability. ----------------------- ps. even 'modern day messageboarders' seem to keep repeatiing themselves and don't seem to ever get the point

There is good reason why the lack of experience issue can be brought up but balanced reporting would also look at the positive.

Interesting.......................... I wonder if they'll consider asking him to join up now ?

It's an unpleasent thought but he conciously did that job for a large reward.

He is the devils financial advisor

.......but you forgot to mention it in the relevant post when my wording obviously referred to remit. Of course you........... "don't think you can be given authority, in terms of respect." ............that's because as we all know, you can't.

I didn't say he was a 'modern coach', I said it was a 'modern approach' from that club. If you want to change the wording to 'different' instead of modern, fine. It was different and generally considered as 'modern' or 'fashionable'. Delia was working within a football operation and he didn't GET GIVEN the authority that Rodgers would later be given. In that respect he was effectivelly swimming against the tide from the start. Part of the media ridiculed him to a degree (nothing compared with Cathro) and his immediate results in Europe were poor. He did have a strongish character but didn't apply it in a way that would be received favourably in Scotland. They learned from their mistake and at the time could afford to make it.

In Delia's case it was about a board decision and was authority within a football operation he wasn't given. It was their go at a 'modern approach'. They did it knowing they'd win the title regardless but eventually they acted on a problem when they saw us about to return to the top flight, not to mention their lack of CL revenue under the Norwegian. I'd agree in the case of Cathro but it was a double whammy with him, ie. didn't 'exude' authority, nor was it given to him. This led to public ridicule and an inevitabe conclusion. In this respect, Gerrard shouldn't have a problem when/if he arrives.

Moving onto Gerrard........... Hypothetically, he comes in and he is given authority and I think he obviously get's respect. He'd have to maintain it. IMO he needs three transfer windows to shape the squad, put his ideas into practise, make some mistakes, learn from it and be ready to really go for the beginning of 2019/20.

Yes, that is required, authority that leads to respect. Delia never had the authority (wasn't given it) and senior players didn't respect him as they should. This led to problems that at times became very apparent, eg. Commons bench outburst. It was clear that this wasn't working so they changed the manager but kept the players who on the whole had been recruited at the right age and had their careers in front of them. Hence, Rodgers comes in and has something to work with. ie. If Rodgers was to become Rangers manager tomorrow, he wouldn't be able to replicate what he did in his first season at celtic. That in itself should demonstrate the extent of the task in front of a new manager and the reason why we'll need to be patient, even if a first season was to be a relative success......because a relative success won't be enough for those without patience.

I think the board sometimes try to placate the support thinking o the VERY short-term rather than properly run a business thinking at least a couple of years down the line. This should have been about building something rather than the annual look for an expensive, veteren and immediate fix. If the board had done what I think they should have with regard to giving manager and public realistic expectation levels then they wouldn't have been popular but they may have been doing something right. What is evident is that the cut-price immediate fix route doesn't work and leaves a trail of expensive but unproductive contracts to pay.

It's fair enough to look at the positives of a potential Gerrard appointent but I'd rather have the proven track record of coaching and improving players/team that a Clarke has. However, tbf, going on about Clarke is pointless in itself. If Gerrard is to join then we have to get behind him and be prepared to exercise more patience than is the norm.

You'd have thought so but some clubs have tried the Head Coach with diluted authority within a football operation. SPFL Hearts had mixed results, Neilson did ok whilst Cathro bombed and forced DoF to become authoritive manager. Celtic: Delia got binned. ------------ That said I think Gerrard would be given the authority.

I would argue that the modern approach didn't work for Celtic, ie. Ronnie Delia as Head Coach with diluted authority. It required a 'mix' of a modern football operation with an authoritive figure as manager who wielded the real power within. ----------------- I've said on several occasions that if we go down the 'expendable' Head Coach/DoF route we'll go through them like golf balls. We need a leader who is comfortable and competent with real authority in charge of a modern day operation. If the funds are there to attract Gerrard his staff and bankroll them then I'd have thought we should have enough to attract a more experienced and IMO suitable candidate.

Tomorrow Never Dies, it's more the today that is the problem.

Agreed, forget about them for next season and concentrate in improving our football operation and building a squad with a younger average age.

Emotive speech material, gifs and pixies ain't going to cut it.