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It's been fair rather than decent IMO It seems decent compared to what we've been used to. Three transfer windows were always likely to be needed for SG&Co to put a competitive squad together. Once it's sorted, it'll be up to him to get the best out of it.

What Jackson does is that he brings the subject closer to the football club of today and a place where their own fans will find it ever more difficult to dismiss or try to ignore it. ------------------------ This should be all about the Victims calls for transparency and justice. The victims and their representatives have to be those who publicly say what must be said. Tribal confrontation will be easier for them to bat away.

Re. Tav and transfer value. Look at it from another angle. How much is winning the title worth ? or How much will not winning the title cost ? I think he is the player whose on-field value to us, is way ahead of any other and given circumstances, we desperately need to try and keep a hold of him. If he himself wants to go, then it casts a different light upon things and for the right fee, he goes. We need players who want to be here, a squad all pulling in the same direction.

Difficult but it's happened a fair bit over the past decade Barca (Guardiola & Luis Enrique) Real Madrid (Zidane) Bayern Munich (Heynckes) Includes two of what were caretaker appointments at the time. Note that a little further back, another, Del Bosque did well in the CL (not to mention Di Matteo)

Is it easier to win the CL than the EPL/domestic league title ?... Liverpool would suggest it might be (2005 & 2019) but Guardiola's teams (ManCity & Bayern, 6 seasons, 5 Leagues, No CL), would point to the opposite.

We've been quite good at close season talk in recent years, the problems have come when the league started. Less talk about winning the league and more on-field consistency of result, please. I like Jones as a player and just hope he has the mentality to play at a big club.

As far as EC/CL Finals are concerned, down there with... 86, Barca v Steaua 91, Red Star v Marseille The latter promised so much as a spectacle but was rat mince,

Another significant step forwards in SG&Co's first year is that we left behind the 'provincial status'. In other words,..European group stages and finishing significantly ahead of 3rd place. We need to keep improving.

I don't think the Daily Bullshit printing batshit headlines will produce a queue of clubs who suddenly think you have to pay XXM for the player in question. That said, Lawwell and colleagues definitely conducted a fairly comprehensive PR campaign that always talked up various aspects of the club, whether it be potential fees or something to do with the mantra that 'Celtic are a CL Team' (stop laughing at the back). Whether I've not being paying so much attention, I don't know but that campaign of sorts seems to have been less intense for the past few months or so. However, it would be churlish not to recognise that the main reason they've made money on player trading is because they've brought through decent players and continue to do so. They have established a reputation of sorts (at least with Southampton) and last night's CL Final had two of those deals either playing or on the bench. What will increase the value of our players is their game, the level that they are playing at in the bigger games and especially if they are a major part of the club doing well in Europe, especially CL group stage (we were operating at provincial level from 2012 until Gerrard arrived). As a club we need to improve players instead of having them go backwards (over many years, this IMO has been our biggest single problem) We need to keep to a minimum signings with no sell-on value #veterans We need to improve recruitment We need to provide a pathway if investment in RYD is to pay off Don't employ Martin Bain In short, we need to be a better run club and it doesn't happen overnight.

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Damp squib of a Final that wasn't helped by the organisers delaying it so long, that the game was played in June. Good to see Gerrard there to sort out the Mane deal.

Poor but predictable from a struggling press. Takes about 2 seconds to determine it's BS and they post in on twitter, knowing full well it's BS.

Am I right in thinking that the football club carried out an enquiry or investigation of sorts in the 80's that ended up by casting stones at 'scurrilous abuse claims' ? Do Celtic really think that another private investigation will be deemed satisfactory or are they really struggling to contain this ?

You are a bitter man Trying to be objective,...I think that Liverpool do deserve to win it after what they have brought to the table these past 2 or 3 seasons. Doesn't make a blind bit of difference but they deserve a tangible reward. At the same time, Klopp is under quite a bit of pressure to shake off the 'nearly man' tag. For a change, his team are expected to win a CL Final. I used to never miss a European Cup or CL Final but can't say I'm that bothered about this one. Two clubs from the same nation just doesn't feel right.

Expect Liverpool to win it but there is no value in those odds. Interest will remain the fiver I put on Spurs to win it at 16's in early April.

No way Mr.MASH would sanction the bidding to start anywhere near 20M. If prospective new owners are looking to change the fortunes of the club in the EPL and are prepared to flash the cash, then they'd be going for a better centre-forward than Morelos. In other words, smells like clickbait shite.

Unsurprisingly, looks like several pay-offs are looming.

Delayed but eventually it came............

If Villa do come in for Tav, then it's hard not to see the player wanting a deal to happen. It'd be a BIG on-field loss for us and we should be holding out for a BIG transfer fee. IMO, as much as the transfer value of Morelos has been overstated at times, the opposite applies to Tav.

Here's another angle on the above Great run in 92/93 Following season booted out in first tie #Levski But won the League UEFA Cup Final 2008 Following season first tie was against Kaunas But won the League

Steven Gerrard was born in the same month the Iranian embassy siege in London was resolved and two days after 4 Scots were in the starting line-up for the winners of the European Cup. Rangers had just finished 5th in the Scottish Premier division !! Today he enters his 40th year....time for life to begin in earnest

I wouldn't take anything for granted. Think back to better squads having excellent seasons in Europe and what happened the following season. Great run in 92/93 Following season booted out in first tie #Levski UEFA Cup Final 2008 Following season first tie was against Kaunas

I only listened to the podcast of the Monday evening Sportsound programme but Stewart was on and the Scottish Cup Final fall-out was part of it but not in much detail regrads the game itself. Edouards dive didn't happen because they didn't mention it. Even when it was happening, it didn't happen. 1001 camera angles could have been employed but if you don't mention it........ Stewart did find time to focus his critical eye on nemesis, Craig Levein. After a shrewd tactical approach in the Final, Stewart still managed to call him out as Cathroesque. Bingo card didn't quite come up due to the surprising omission of an ongoing simmering indignation at Morelos getting a red card rescinded in August. --------------- I cast my mind back to the League Cup Final and a Celtic penalty that was incorrectly awarded. It was missed but that isn't the point. Weeks later when Stewart was on Sportsound discussing poor refereeing decisions, Rangers were named when pointing toward injustices. However, when it came to that injust Celtic decision, Mr.BioMechanic could only bring himself to talk of the League Cup Final, no mention of who was involved. * Point being, if you don't mention it, for many,..it didn't happen. Repeat and repeat and over time it helps to brainwash and marginalise. You take a glance at a site like the 'Scottish Football Monitor' and it's a similar pattern. A more accurate name would be the 'Rangers Monitor'. A place where only one dimensional thought is tolerated and that pretends to be a high-falluting think-tank for the good of our game. I once tried to give it some balance, but I was accused of, charged and banned for the old whataboutery. ------------------------- * Looked back (this thread Feb 5th / p.141) Background is Andrew Dallas and awarding 4 penalties to Rangers v St.Mirren.

English clubs ruling the roost again in European football. Taking over from the Spanish ? English clubs in Final : 2 English players starting : 1 Spanish players starting : 4 English managers : 0 Spanish managers : 1

Gave up after 20 minutes. More exciting watching grass grow !!