Hildy
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The George Square episode summed up the downside in our support when it managed to turn good news for the unionists into bad news for us by behaving in a way that was moronic, uncouth and inexcusable. Until that point, the NO victory had been unblemished and clean. This type of behaviour damages Rangers, and people really do re-think their allegiance when they see fellow fans embarrassing both the club and the unionist cause.
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Fan board elections now closed as of Saturday 20 September
Hildy replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
The club's fan board idea had no credibility even before this latest development, but what if the nominations committee or whatever it is called prevents FS from standing? Would people tolerate such gerrymandering and still contribute towards making it work? Will those who have chosen to stand continue to do so if a perfectly reasonable candidate is barred from doing so? I think this is a reasonable question to put to all of those seeking election. -
Rangers Fans Fighting Fund will not give £500,000 to Ibrox board...
Hildy replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Where is it written down what the RFFF was for? Any organisation raising this amount of money should be clear about what its aims are and accountable to those who funded it, even though many of them are unknown. I have quoted a line from the day of launch from the official site - "Money raised through the 'Fighting Fund' will go to the club's running costs". Was there more information available that was not published? -
Rangers Fans Fighting Fund will not give £500,000 to Ibrox board...
Hildy replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
They do have a website, apparently. -
Rangers Fans Fighting Fund will not give £500,000 to Ibrox board...
Hildy replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
When the RFFF was set up, this was on the official site: "Money raised through the 'Fighting Fund' will go to the club's running costs". -
I want us to buy them out. It can only happen though if people want them bought out and if they are prepared to chip in to make it happen. As long as the Rangers support is a minority shareholder, it has little hope of having the club that it wants.
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It's not, particularly when many have no inclination to actually change it.
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Boardroom change at Ibrox is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's regime change that is required.
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People who left Scotland before the internet took over the world made a decision to enhance their careers and let Rangers go. I have no problem with that, but the internet has connected them again to something they thought they had lost - and were prepared to lose. It doesn't come across well when overseas fans criticise home-based fans for not turning out in large numbers, especially given our current circumstances.
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And dare I say it, our own arrogance for believing that we would always be the best and never falter. The finger of blame can be pointed at many of the above and more, but we, as Rangers fans, cannot blame everyone but ourselves for our own plight. I just hope that NO wins the day on Thursday.
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How much of Celtic does Desmond own?
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Rangers First has no ambition to make Rangers a fan-owned club. It has no grand vision and no revolutionary dream. The RST wants the club to be fan-owned - RF doesn't. The RST offers a road out of this place - the RF will keep us exactly where we are.
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The fan ownership dream is to be club - not a club controlled by a company. The club would be owned by its members - not its shareholders. This idea that we can settle for being a minority with serious influence needs to be knocked on the head. A fan minority group against a majority shareholder or a cabal of hedge funds and fast buck merchants will exert no meaningful influence at all. As for pipe dreams, I'm sure the same thing was said to nationalists who wanted an independent Scotland. They didn't settle for bring a minority and now they are a whisker away from seeing their 'pipe dream' becoming a reality. Don't settle for anything less than fan ownership for Rangers. Have the dream and work towards making it happen - because it really can happen.
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When we live through change, we sometimes don't fully grasp it until much later when we reflect on it. About six months before the situation got out of hand back in 2008, someone on a business forum said that the Bank of Scotland was in poor heath and that anyone with money invested in it should get out. The abuse the guy got for his trouble was unbelievable. 'The bank had been around for three hundred years', they said. 'It will never fail'. We should know by now that change happens even in the most unexpected places. We should prepare for unlikely scenarios as best we can but people sometimes get carried away with mindless optimism, and consequently, become careless, and that's when things come crashing down.
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In a relatively short time the changes that have taken place in our country, and at our club, have taken the breath away. Our club has survived after a prolonged and unforeseen crisis but it belongs to strangers now and is almost as remote from supporters as London is from Glasgow. Scotland is on the brink of fundamental and irreversible change and whether it remains within the UK or goes it alone, things will never be the same again. Those who grew up thinking that Rangers and the Union were forever must have been visibly shaken by this cataclysmic turn of events. Identity is important to us, and having already endured a period where our football club almost died, we are now seeing Britishness at the cliff-edge. Coming on top of the shocking collapse of our banking institutions, this is a bizarre period in our lives. It seems that nothing is forever any more, and much of what is dear to us is under threat. Even the Church of Scotland is languishing. It seems to have slipped back in the country's pecking order behind another strand of Christianity, the Catholic Church. Like Rangers, this cornerstone of society has seen better days. When the 21st century chimed in, who expected this? Inside a relatively short time, our world has been turned upside-down. The Church always had a fight on its hands to retain flock, but the Scottish parliament, which was specifically designed to stop nationalism in its tracks, has completely failed to do it. Within the Rangers family, the widespread belief that the club was immortal has been smashed, and the idea that two 300 year-old banks could fail was thought to be too outlandish to be seriously contemplated. Here we stand, days before a vital referendum, and much of what, historically, has been important to us, has either changed, is presently changing, or could change in the not too distant future. The iconic Union Flag, perhaps under a new name, could be redesigned if Scotland becomes independent, and no-one can be sure what currency we are going to use or even if the Queen will still be our monarch in another ten years. The times, they are a changing - and much faster then we ever thought possible. If Rangers gets through this period, I wonder, how much will it have to change to be at ease in this new era?
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I can understand your view of Patey. He has commented periodically throughout this debacle and I can't recall him ever saying anything insightful. I'm sure he knows his stuff but his comments have rarely added anything worthwhile to the debate.
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No-one said it was going to be easy. If fan ownership is a worthy reward, though, it should be aspired to by those who believe in it. This idea that Rangers can leave the ownership of the club to chance is really quite bizarre. Dubious ownership is where our problems begin and end. If we do nothing about it, the future is going to bleak, and in historic terms, it could be quite short, too.
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Fan ownership will not just secure the club, it will fundamentally change the dependency culture that our support has clung to for far too long. As far as RF is concerned, it is devoid of meaningful ambition and content to leave the door open for the next Craig Whyte to waltz in. It is not providing an answer to our difficulties or demonstrating a grand vision for the future. Our support needs to rid itself of its unhealthy obsession with rich people, or as I keep reading in here - HNWI. The short term has become extremely important due to circumstances that we are all fully aware of, however the short term has always been the only concern for Rangers fans, and that's why we are suffering now. The private ownership of Rangers is a minefield of uncertainty and insecurity. The support needs to embrace the club and take it out of the hands of unscrupulous individuals. If Rangers fans were as concerned for the future of the club as they are about its past, they would buy it tomorrow, but we still think that it is the duty of so-called Rangers-minded HNWIs to buy the club and throw money at it. It isn't. It really isn't. Only by making Rangers a fan-owned club will we leave this nonsense behind. It might be an idea to get the RST, if it hasn't already done so, to put a model together to show what fan ownership could actually be like.
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Fan ownership is very much in, but for those who are rejecting it, and who reject past, present and even possible future owners, they must surely recommend a course of action that they approve of - or is it the usual - sit back, grumble, and offer nothing at all. Fan ownership will triumph in the end, but if it takes too long, Rangers could find it difficult to recover to a level that most expect us to be at.
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We have fans who don't want the current board. We also had fans who wanted rid of David Murray. We now have fans who don't want Dave King and some don't want Rangers to be a fan-owned club either. What exactly do those fans want for Rangers - and how are they going to make it happen? Everyone can be a critic, but possible solutions should also be on offer. Can those who say no to just about everything tell us what they would say yes to - and explain what Rangers fans should be doing right now other than just waiting and hoping?
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Match Preview Schedule - Volunteer to write a Gersnet Match Preview!
Hildy replied to Zappa's topic in Rangers Chat
I'll do the Hibs game. Remind me nearer the time please. -
We are in a bad place. I don't need any convincing about that, but I see no reason why we should select from a group of usual suspects who are notable only for being ordinary. Didn't McInnes take Aberdeen to third last year in a division with no Rangers and a weakened Hearts? His period down south was hardly a recommendation either. Let's advertise the job and see who knocks on our door. I don't think there will be a shortage of volunteers.
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That may be true, but quite a few managers out there fall into this category.
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Almost anyone we go for will have experience, but what is his football philosophy and do we really want to restrict the choice of next manager to people who know what Rangers are about? We see this time after time - people keep selecting managers who once played for us or who are known to have a Rangers allegiance. I think our board needs people who know what the club is about, but I think we need a manager who can have us playing a style of football that the likes of Smith and McCoist - who know what Rangers are about - are not noted for. Our next manager should have the team playing in a way that is satisfying, enjoyable and rewarding for paying punters. I'm not sure that McInnes fits the bill. I hope we steer well clear.
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Derek McInnes - does anyone still want him?