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Hildy

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  1. During the last few years, there was one moment when there was cause for optimism. The RST's SaveRangers campaign hit around £13m in pledges, and then what happened? The club came out with the RFFF - amongst the biggest pieces of garbage ever to come from the club - and suddenly all was lost when fans were conned into believing they had hope. That was the moment when things, potentially, could have been utterly transformed, but instead we almost burst the net with the spectacular own goal that was the RFFF. A moment like that may never come around again.
  2. The thing about options is that it confuses the message. The one thing we should be able to do is to have one group preaching the fan ownership message, but instead we have an unnecessarily complicated situation which is entirely self-inflicted. Ideally we'd have one group but we know now that this is an unlikely scenario - and if it happened, it would only be for a brief moment in time until a new group came along offering its own brand of recycled wisdom. Instinctively, we seem to drift apart while preaching unity. I view things simply. I want Rangers to be a fan-owned club so I joined the vehicle that exists to help make it happen - the RST. Along the way, I have seen faces on the Trust board that I was less than keen on but I stuck with it because I believed in its core message. I do the same at Rangers. I see people in high places at the club that I wish were somewhere else, but I stick with the club because the club is greater than the various ownership regimes that come and go.
  3. The lesson for fans is that we easily splinter and factionalise. It has happened before and it will happen again and it may even happen - not because of what might be termed policy differences - but because of personality issues. If we truly were a united support, we could make do with just one fan forum, but we have several, and look at the disparaging comments people make about some of the others. Harmony and unity? Let's not kid ourselves. There is animosity, suspicion and distrust within our ranks.
  4. Why would the eleven year-old RST want to scrap itself to accommodate a group, RF, which is less than a year old and doesn't share its aims? Vanguard Bears? What are its aims? Remember, if all three groups were scrapped to create a new one, how long would it take for the new one to splinter? How long would it take for another new group to appear? This is the lesson here. Give it five years and we'd be back to more than one group - and that's why it is pointless dissolving what we already have. It will happen all over again. The groups should try to co-operate but while I am happy to invest in a group that is intent on Rangers becoming a fully fan-owned club, I wouldn't waste my money on a group that was prepared to settle for less. That's why I'm with the RST. Cooperation is desirable, but not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The lesson is that we are not the people at all. We are the peoples.
  5. It's not about me. You are speaking to everyone on a public forum. Those who belong to your group will surely want to know what is being discussed and how people feel about the controversial Rangers-related content of another club's official programme. There will be another fan meeting in Glasgow tonight. Let's see how quick it communicates with punters. I certainly hope that it doesn't take up to a fortnight. There are no excuses for such a long delay.
  6. I remember when the RST went through a phase of giving out brief statements which effectively said nothing about the meetings they'd had with senior people at the club. These brief messages only served to antagonise people who wanted meat on the bones. I'm enthusiastically behind the RST but they got this wrong. This new fan board should learn to open up as far as is possible and not let the club lean on it. Speak out about what is going on. Reticence is not appreciated. You are supposed to represent Rangers fans more than the regime that is in charge. If you have to be a puppet, be a puppet for them - not the club.
  7. What was your reaction to the Livingston programme? What did other board members think of it?
  8. That is a very poor answer. People tire of mainstream politics when they hear this kind of response. Expand on it. What was the mood regarding what has happened? Say what you can in a communicative way instead of answering as though you were dealing with state secrets.
  9. Tannadice was the high watermark for Rangers fans boycotting. All the fan groups and the club itself backed the boycott, and while it was reasonably successful, there was still a visible Rangers fan presence. We'll struggle to come close to that again. Some fans would not boycott Rangers even if every penny of their cash was being used to buy a castle for Mr Charles Green. They're out. Some fans who choose to boycott could get used to the idea of staying away from Ibrox - permanently. This is a risk. Season ticket holders will be less likely to join in having already paid to be there. Nothing is going to change their minds. Ibrox is both a habit and a social experience for many of them. The SOS, like just about every other fan group, has at least as many people who are suspicious of it as approve of it. If the SOS wants a boycott, plenty will make a point of opposing it - just because. One other thing - there are times when protesting begins to fall on deaf ears. It's the easiest thing in the world to say no to the way something is done. It is so much harder to offer an alternative that is both constructive and useful. Marching and card displays haven't really done much good so far. We need practical solutions more than protests that are often doomed to fail before they even get off the ground.
  10. There have been suggested boycotts of Radio Clyde, BBC Radio Scotland, the Herald, the Record and goodness knows how many media outlets, and this is in addition to proposed boycotts of Tannadice, East End Park, Tynecastle, Easter Road and Parkhead, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Some fans are so consumed with anti-Rangers hatred, they'd happily do without the blue pound, and if their clubs caved in and brought Rangers down too, they'd view it as a price worth paying. We have to deal with this problem, and that means facing it and tackling it in such a way that any repetition will be costly and damaging for clubs and career-threatening for individuals. This is doing great harm to Rangers. These lies have to be challenged. Thinking that some kind of airy-fairy boycott will stop this is misguided. It won't. It will keep on happening until Rangers puts the perpetrators firmly in their place. In the States, this would be a substantial lawsuit. If it was Celtic, the matter would not end until it had been settled in their favour. Rangers cannot back down here.
  11. It really isn't. We don't do boycotting very well, but even if we did, is it really a good idea for Rangers fans to stop following the team around Scotland? If we were successful in boycotting away grounds, and let's face it, we'd find a reason to boycott everyone, supporters' clubs would fold and the team would have no support at away games. Is this what we want? The answer is for Rangers to chase down every club which perpetuates the 'new club' lie by using official channels to get them disciplined. Forget boycotts. This has to be met head on.
  12. 'Must' be a good reason for it? I'm not so sure.
  13. With all that has happened to Rangers, and with the damage that it has undoubtedly done, ducking out of fixtures reeks of cowardice and diminishes our reputation even more. If we had a squad twice as large, I suspect we'd still be opting out of these games.
  14. I care little for nostalgic distractions when the present is such a disgrace.
  15. It's a fair point. Not only do we expect 'celebrity' fans to tell the world about their Rangers allegiance, if any aspect of their attitude is inconsistent with more fundamentalist attitudes, they are quickly turned on - and then it gets personal and distasteful.
  16. The 'new club' tag is going to be a running sore for years, maybe even decades, but while we can't stop opposition fans saying it, when it is the printed word in an official club publication, there is a case to answer, and even a shoddily run club like Rangers should be on top of this.
  17. Life just isn't that simple, compo. The bitching we can do without, but thousands of people have chosen not to back the team due to circumstances that are discussed constantly on here. Fans, quite understandably, will not give their money to a regime at the club that they have no trust in. We should not pretend that there is an easy way out of this.
  18. I posted this the other day: Ashley would apparently say yes to any would-be purchaser of Newcastle who comes up with around £267m – thereby covering the £134m he paid for Newcastle in 2007 plus more than £150m in interest-free loans. The original and actual quote is in here: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/21/newcastle-united-club-for-sale-mike-ashley The arithmetic is a bit dubious but would you expect any money Ashley pumps into Rangers - if he becomes the majority owner of the club - to be a loan and not a gift?
  19. Since tumbling to the bottom of the pile, we have finished top of the third and fourth tiers. Essentially then, we quickly proved on the field that we were better than our environment. Now, though, if we finish second or worse, it will show - on the field - that we are in a lowly environment where we are not top dog, and for a club like Rangers, this will be a humiliation - even if we are promoted. When a club has spent over 120 years never being lower than 6th in the leading division, to finish anything less than top of a much lesser division would be completely unacceptable.
  20. I think he's been led into this and he should have been smarter in dealing with it. Promotion is the name of the game but for a club like Rangers, which has never been lower than 6th in the league in its history, settling for a playoff spot, or giving the appearance that this might be acceptable, is ill-advised and misguided.
  21. It seems that there is one Somers, who is the Rangers chairman, and another Summers, who is our QC.
  22. When you say invest, do you mean interest-free loans? "Seemingly Ashley's answer would be yes {to the sale of Newcastle} were any would-be purchaser to come up with around £267m – thereby covering the £134m he paid for Newcastle in 2007 plus more than £150m in interest-free loans he injected to keep everything afloat during the early days of his tenure." http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/21/newcastle-united-club-for-sale-mike-ashley
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