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A ship without a rudder that what we are .

A good draw but a hard tie.

I have a feeling it will be December the 27th .

Then that will leave the new year holiday period for those who have won or lost to chart out their next moves .

I can't see how Eck could be our worst manager - you just have to look how he out performed Dick Advocaat. With the same players, he won five trophies in a row after they not won the previous five in a row under DA. He then went on to win a championship, a cup and get to the knockout stages of the CL on a fraction of the budget that DA had in his fruitless final year and a half.

 

I didn't enjoy Eck as a manager but he wasn't by any means the worst and while many enjoyed the first two years of Advocaat, you have to wonder about his real worth when you consider the budget he spent and how much that spending subsequently affected the club. Winning the league by a mile was no more unexpected than our results this season. Losing the league by a mile twice was not far removed from finishing a close second last season or this.

 

However, Eck finishing third puts him below McCoist as he didn't achieve the minimum which was at worst a distant second, whereas McCoist has never failed in that respect - he finished second despite a 10 point penalty and the most horrendous upheaval our club has ever had in its history. If you extrapolate his first half season results (even with being messed around by Whyte) he may have finished second by about 4 points to a team with a bigger budget, hardly a disgrace. People seem to measure him for not beating other countries' champions but all Rangers managers have had bad European results - without Whyte and HMRC around. He has yet to have the opportunity to redeem himself.

 

I can't see in any way, no matter how many excuses you make that any manager in Rangers history could be considered worse than PLG. You can talk as much as you like about what coulda, shoulda been but in the cold light of day his results were abysmal and he didn't win a single trophy which puts him below John Greig and Jock Wallace's second spell.

 

In my lifetime I'd put the pecking order as follows:

 

1. Walter Smith (2nd spell)

Due to the achievements to budget ratio winning the championship most year and discounting PLG's season only finished a close second once. And the memories of a European final.

 

2. Walter Smith (1st spell)

Amazing run of years where he won the championship every year except one, where he

finsihed second by 2 points. Then there's the amazing CL run and multiple cup wins.

 

3. Jock Wallace (1st spell)

Two trebles says it all - without the kind of financial help that Souness, Smith and Advocaat received.

 

4. Graeme Souness

Was aided by an amazing budget and the ability to sign top English players but he did have a very strong New Firm to beat where Alex Ferguson had only just left Aberdeen. We had a pretty good European cup run too.

 

5. Ally McCoist

Has not really proven himself yet; however, has not measurably underperformed in the league yet compared to those below him. His whole tenure is skewed by off the field events and makes it hard to judge. He will be judged more fairly when the club settles down - and he seems to be doing at minimum an adequate job this season. He may have more money to spend than rivals but that is nothing new for Rangers managers, and it's still not easy to churn out the results. There should maybe be an asterisk next to this one - the circumstances make this incredibly difficult to compare.

 

6. Alex McLiesh

See text from top of post.

 

7. Dick Advocaat

I can see how people can criticise McCoist for having more money than his rivals and let off Dick who lost badly to Celtic after the first two seasons despite having a budget that no Scottish team could ever really afford.

 

8. John Greig

After just missing out on the treble in his first season, he went rapidly downhill. Hampered by a lack of interest by the owners and a modest budget, and of course having to compete against Alex Ferguson and Jim McLean, he still should have done better but alas while he was a legend as a player, stepping straight from the dressing room to the managers office was too much for him.

 

9. Jock Wallace (2nd spell)

Never really got the budget he deserved but he still had more to spend than most and the team never achieved any momentum. Could not turn round a club that needed a kick up the backside which happened after he left.

 

10. Paul Le Guen

Really not much to say here. 0 trophies, struggling for second place with no competition, didn't have the stomach to even make a fist of it. The best you can say about him is some reasonable European results.

a good read and summing up

I might come lets hope its sensible questions and no tomfoolery

Hand this nvestigation over to pc Murdoch a honest and upright man if there ever was one

Joe Kinnear at a recent board meating recomended that the club sign half-back Shane Ferguson from Birningham only to be told that the player was on loan ....................from Newcastle ..........heads gone .

stranraer or auchileck away from home

we will probably have green back representing either blue pitch or margarita its going to take some very rich man to buy them out and we just don't have any rich men

the report card should read could do better .

bet they bring it back

It was the end of an era as the gers moved to their new stadium.

Taken from the minute book of 1899 .

The commitee meeting of february the 22 was held at 175 saint vincent streetand among the usual business of new members,registrations and team matters was a note that an engineer, Archibald Leitch had been appointed for the proposed new ground.

He attended the meeting with samples of the proposed new terracing,3', 3 1/2,' and 4' timber.

The committee chose the latterand instructed him to make plans for a ground to accommodate 60,000 with advice on costs.

The club had resources available to themwith a successful season producing over £5000 profit.

But they also looked to raise further capitalin a floatationof the club which would establish it as a limited company.

By march 20,the engineer presented optionsfor the ground to the committee and they favored an 80,000 capacitywih the terracing curtailed to reduce costs.

At that meeting the committee confirmed its decisions to pursue limited liability status with the company established with a nominal capitalof £12,000.

A special meeting of the members was convened and was held at the Trades hall,Glassford street on march27.

The plans for the new ground were enthusiastically receivedand it was agreed that the club would proceedwith the construction of a stadiumwith 80,000 capacity at a cost of £12,000.

the moveon the establishment of the company was also endorsed by the members.

By april,the engineer was well advanced with the plansand looked at the possibility of selling our oldstand to Kilmarnock fc who were involved in stadium constuction as well.

It was decided, however, t hat we would retain our old stand,but re-erectedat the new stadium positionwhich was to be located a short distancewest of the site of old Ibrox.

Mr Leitch was also instructed to get the schedules for the playing pitch at once and the turf was

a daly for you

a daly for me

and if your no a daly yer nae use tae me /

good player the type we need no pussy footing direct and to the point like all good strikers .

maybe he will bring out a book like jock brown did i read the brown book and believe me it was quite good .

horrid chap he has to go .

good day out in Edinburgh might even get chips and sauce

Lets face it lads we need him and we need him soon or we are going to struggle in the money stakes we need someone with a good business brain someone to guide us away from all these ganchers who are bleeding the club dry .

You would think it would be worthy of an investigation by the world class journalists we have in this wee country?

stuff the journalists its a police matter to investigate the bent council officials, gangsters and carpetbaggers

they were happy to rent it for as long as I an remember maybe they bought it in the hope as others did in the hope of making fantastic killing by buying land in that area marked for the commonwealth games then selling at a huge profit the whole area stinks of graft and corruption its all on the net who bought what and for how much and for how much they sold it for and back to the same people who sold it in the first place . as its said in an old movie follow the money .

45 far to young to go . r I p .

I have just read that our former player has motor neurone disease

bugger the bbc

we all hear about the ones that make it but all clubs with these youth development programs should be responsible for getting the boys a job or a trade for when the dreaded day comes when they are told sorry son we are letting you go .

well the rangers are in another final i wonder just how many final games our club has played ?

just the type of player for scottish football not scared to get the sleeves up and get stuck in he will do for me .