Ser Barristan Selmy

£70m Morata to Chelsea. That's a lot of money for a 24 year old who doesn't have a very great goal record, though Conte knows what he's doing. £50m+ seems to be the standard money you pay for anyone half decent in England now though.

£4m has been pennies to these teams for as far back as I can remember. It doesn't mean an English side is going to spend that sort of money on a mediocre player in Scotland.

Good on them. Obviously helps that they're minted. Every time I see English clubs bidding sums like this I cringe! They're getting everything back to front.

His nationality is irrelevant. He's playing in Scotland where to be worth that sort of money you really need to stand out. If anything his nationality counts against him because if he had performed to a high level there, he wouldn't have come to us.

I don't think he's worth anything like that, nor do I think we could attract that fee.

And what exactly is your point? We only have ourselves to blame for the position we find ourselves in European football.

He probably looked at himself coaching in a joke league in his 40's and saw us a springboard to better things.

And you're a frequent watcher of that league are you? It's a meaningless league and the guy's a dud. It was obvious from day 1.

If we're being honest, Hearts was Wallace's level. I think the reason he stayed with us down the divisions is because he wouldn't have got half the salary anywhere else.

You need to build from the back and immediately we have a weak keeper, two full backs who can't defend and a centre back who's an unknown quantity. We're in for a long season methinks.

:laugh::laugh: Please stop trolling.

What is a Big Eck type? Unemployed and useless? He's even worse than Pedro. The Viktoria Zizkov result was more embarrassing than this given the squad he had.

Is that the weird Mexican league that's completely irrelevant?

I think the loan market is something we should stay relatively clear from just now. We are at rock bottom in a rebuilding phase. Plugging gaps fixes nothing and we need to be focusing on long term development.

Yeah, definitely a high quality signing and at 30 we'll likely get good years out of him at a low cost. We could have done with him the other night.

At what point in PC's career has he ever had his way in the first place?

You'd almost think his comments are satirical and he sounds like a total plonker there. Teams of British players go out every year at the first hurdle in Europe. The performance of foreign clubs and nations immediately proves he's speaking nonsense.

His appointment was an act of lunacy: http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?84067-This-managerial-appointment-is-embarrassing&highlight= How predictable.

Cuckoo.....

What, because we're all shite?

I honestly did expect this to happen but I still feel like I've been punched in the stomach. Time to put the laptop away.

We have no style or tactics at all. Tonight was as bad as anything under Ally.

Nobody who watched us last season can be surprised we've gone out of Europe at the first hurdle. I was convinced it would happen. And a guy with Pedro's CV was unlikely going to be the man to turn it all around.

We were playing a side we should have beaten 8-0. We were rubbish.

Didn't the team we play last night hail from a place with a population of 2000? We should be gubbing such minnows by a cricket score, regardless of our circumstances. I bet most of our players earn more individually than their entire squad does.