Ser Barristan Selmy

The lack of good options on the pitch is in the main problem.

He hasn't exactly lit the coaching world by storm recently and has had lots of off field problems. Plus have you listened to his views on us? He thinks bringing Ally back is the solution to our problems? All he talks about with regards to us is jobs for the boys and having true Rangers men at the club. That's not what we need at all. We need talented players, coaches and board members. That's all. I don't care where they're from or who they support. Having Rangers men in the dugout didn't help us with McLeish when we went on the worst run of form in our history, nor did it help when Ally was losing part-time cups with his nigh on £1 million a year salary.

Don't understand why I hear names like that being talked up on Talksport. I understand Alan Brazil saying it because he's a tim who no doubt wants us to be pish, plus he's a bit of a clown.

I believe the direction was to be successful in Europe too. That wasn't achieved. And if we'd been bringing through youth and had a decent scouting network in place, we wouldn't have needed Advocaat to come in and blow mental money buying a whole new squad. If our soul direction was just to get to NIAR (largely against very weak opposition) with no regard for what came beyond that, then that's typical of the boom and bust nature that's personified our club and particularly the Murray era. Club's should be thinking what is happening 10, 15 and 20 years down the line. And in the 96/97 season we also finished bottom of our CL group, below Grasshopper - losing 5/6 games. Barry Ferguson was one player - I was talking about youth in general. Fair enough we had money in the bank, but it didn't get spent very productively.

£2.2m was a drop in the ocean to us then. It's a huge sum to us now.

The board are accountable for everything at the club. They decide on the management, coaches and ultimately the direction the club is heading both on and off the park. I remember when Advocaat took over and he basically had to buy a completely new squad, had no youth coming through and no scouting network to speak of. That doesn't point to me as a club run very well.

When Advocaat took over we had an ageing, depleted squad and an archaic infrastructure.

Perhaps a question to the older bears but who can remember the last time you felt we had a competent board running the club with a long term plan for our future? I can't recall one in my lifetime. This current board is just more of what we're used to.

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That's football. Good players can stop performing for a good manager - look at Mourinho with Chelsea. Nothing changes the fact that McLeish is an absolutely diabolical manager.

We'll certainly be underwhelmed if it's someone completely awful like Eck. Above all else though we obviously don't have the money to get anyone good.

He's doing well in the second tier of English football. That's a much higher level than the general standard of manager being linked. A manager on course of EPL promotion isn't going to come to us anyway. Though you are right, scraping the barrel is exactly what we're doing.

If good football doesn't work against these awful Scottish teams, why do better footballing sides run rings around all of our teams in Europe every season? The idea that you can't play good football in this league is complete nonsense. The tims manage it for a start. As for Barca, they play against packed defences every week and it doesn't stop them playing good football or winning by cricket scores.

It's not that you're positive. It's that you instantly take a particular side of an argument to the point that your opinion just becomes formulaic and utterly irrelevant.

Which day proved he ever was up to it? I was at the game against Partick and whilst on paper it was a comfortable victory, it was as pathetic a Rangers performance as I have ever seen.

I agree. And hopefully once we've done our 'due diligence', we don't end up with yet another turkey.

At least today will hopefully dispel the notion that Murty would be a worthwhile appointment. Today showed what we already know - we are a woeful football team. The problem is, regardless of whom the board appoint, we're going nowhere. I see on other forums a prevailing notion that we need to go back to basics and that all that matters is getting a strong Rangers team together that can get back at the tims next season. What we really need is a root and branch clearout and a complete overhaul of our archaic infrastructure. The Scottish national side is exactly the same. Whilst the current board are infinitely better than the previous one, which accounts for little given the last willingly wished to do us harm, they've shown nothing to suggest they're fit to be running our club. The current board is looking increasingly like the one that instigated the original mess. All we're missing is DM. We need to look at Iceland, what Sean Dyche has done at Burnley etc. Invest in youth, apply strategic planning. For as far back as I can remember we have been a complete mess of a club. I couldn't really give a fuck if Celtic win the next few titles because at this rate it's happening regardless. We need to finally get savvy and develop a sustainable long term plan. Something focusing on youth, global scouting and playing football the way it is intended. We play in one of the worst leagues in world football, yet we have one of the largest supports. It really shouldn't take much to get us back to some sort of respectable position. What we really need is a Fergus McCann type and in typical Scottish fashion, it seems only blind luck will find it.

Pretty average by what standard? He's coaching a crap team in one of the worst countries in Europe.

We should have gone for Michel Preud'homme. His CV is light years ahead of the rest.

What on earth has Tommy Wright achieved in football to be managing a club like ours?

If money isn't an issue why is it taking so long?

The money players go for between English clubs is completely irrelevant. There's no way a player playing poorly for us would go for £2m.

Who else tried to sign Dorrans?

Since when did that ever matter to footballers? If McCarthur moves he will go for the best contract he's offered - same as any other player.