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I think he's referring to one of his half-backs that missed a sitter with a header from about four yards against C1888c, and the fact that Rangers beat them so comprehensively that the confidence they had against C1888c was destroyed by the performance of Rangers.

I watched his team's game against C1888c and what he has said here is fair. I noticed that he gave a good account of himself against us and worked hard the whole game. He's right, Rangers did want it more.

Touche. Then we need companies like Mr. Parks' to enter the scene and level the playing field.

I watched the Celtic-Dundee game today and I feel quite confident. Dundee started the game with their most important strikers rested and played for a draw. They frustrated Celtic reasonably easily. However, I noticed that they looked quite straggled with their two banks of four while defending. There seemed to be an awful lot of space between their defence and forwards when they tried to go forward. When they brought on Stewart, Hennings and Harkins they looked a lot more convincing going forward. Maybe if they start with them we may see a bigger threat. However, if we start energetically and defend high I think they are there for the taking. Looking forward to the game.

Latest on 'elite' discussions ... http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/10188974/arsenal-have-stressed-they-are-strongly-opposed-to-the-formation-of-the-breakaway-european-super-league Arsenal against Euro Super League Last Updated: March 2 2016, 14:10 GMT Arsenal have stressed they are "strongly opposed" to the formation of a breakaway European Super League as it emerged leading Barclays Premier League clubs did not discuss the idea at a meeting in London on Tuesday. Could some Premier League clubs be about to leave for a new European super-league? Sky Sports News HQ reporter Geraint Hughes investigates. Could some Premier League clubs be about to leave for a new European super-league? Sky Sports News HQ reporter Geraint Hughes investigates. Reports on Wednesday claimed officials from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United met with American billionaire Stephen Ross, the owner of Miami Dolphins NFL team, at a London hotel. Ross' organisation is behind the International Champions Cup series, which sees a number of Premier League teams take on other leading sides from across Europe in show-piece matches, often held as pre-season tournaments around the globe. Photographs of club officials leaving a meeting at the Dorchester Hotel together prompted speculation that another attempt could be made to form a continental league competition. But Press Association Sport understands the meeting was with Ross' company, Relevent Sports, rather than the American himself and talks involved primarily the forthcoming International Champions Cup (ICC) and also, on the margins, changes to the Champions League format. Any impetus for a breakaway European Super League is believed to come from mainland Europe due to the current strength of the Premier League. An Arsenal spokesman, while confirming a meeting took place, told Press Association Sport: "We are strongly opposed to any breakaway. "Not Arsenal, nor any clubs at the meeting, are seeking changes to the Premier League and European landscape and no conversations surrounding displacing the Premier League or starting a European Super League took place. "Discussions were primarily around the ICC and formats of European competitions that would compliment the existing Premier League." Manchester United have not made any official comment on the meeting, but are understood to be comfortable with the existing landscape and fixture schedule, so much so that domestically they even support retaining FA Cup replays. Liverpool attended after an invitation from a long-standing associate whose tournament they played in two years ago - they are likely to do so again this summer during their pre-season tour of the west coast of the United States - and it is understood the club remain strong supporters of the existing structure of European football. A European Club Association (ECA) spokesperson, asked about the meeting, told Press Association Sport: "There's a lot of discussion around the future of European competitions at the moment, as always ahead of a new competition cycle. "Discussions are taking place at different levels, but, for the moment, nothing concrete was brought up at ECA." UEFA confirmed it had no concrete proposals on the table to change the format of its European competitions, but was constantly reviewing the situation. A lucrative new broadcasting deal is set to kick in from the start of the 2016/2017 Premier League season, which will dwarf the current financial rewards on offer for a successful European campaign. A UEFA spokesman told Press Association Sport: "We are constantly reviewing the formats of our competitions in consultations with stakeholders and also with the ECA. "At the moment, there are no concrete proposals on the table. We have just gone into a new three-year cycle for Champions League and Europa League, so we cannot offer any further comment at this stage." The Premier League declined to comment.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio Ever heard of telephoto lens?

For God's sake man, your first post was dripping with disparaging remarks to both cultures. In fact your second paragraph in this reply almost sounds snobbish. Do you expect me to accept that no one in the West of Scotland knows their history? Who would the exceptions be - only those who are educated at Hutcheson's Grammar? In your third paragraph I believe you are being patronizing. I refuse to believe that a man with you intelligence would purport to miss the point of the information given. I think you know exactly what I mean by an 'opposite culture'. It would be highly unlikely that our own culture would attempt to kill our club stone-dead in 2012. In eleven generations of family heritage I have found no ties to anything Irish. I do speak the Queen's english, and sometimes the Scots' vernacular. I do not consider myself tied culturally or socially to the Irish, so please don't make statements that you have no idea about. I had to combine a lot of things to make the point that this event was not just an electioneering stunt in ANY pub. The RST made the point that the pub was the base for a CSC who had a history of violence against Rangers fans. Further, the very man who brought in the OBA was front and centre in the picture, Salmond. Surely you would agree that in politics perception is everything. This was not a random choice of venue. In this instance I agree with the RST that this event needed to be challenged. If I have been unable to sway your opinion then we shall have to agree to disagree.

I reject the premise of your post on several points. First, I am not a member of the RST. You have stated and I agree that the Rangers' support is drawn from a broad church. The one thing that is common among the Rangers' fans is that we all support our team, and in our own way. Hence, I don't think it is appropriate for you to attempt to denigrate or attempt to belittle a supporter, or group, for their actions unless they are breaking the law. I think it is rather presumptious of you to imply that neither the RST, the Rangers' support nor the denizens of the Old Govan Arms are unaware of their history. What exactly is this history and why does it impact on the OP? A few quotes ... From a Southern Irish person's point of view ... http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/commemorating-the-1916-rising-1.2114387 ... Second, the utter lack of popular support for the Easter Rising at the time of its outbreak makes the “seminal moment” in the birth of our republic somewhat different from that of the American and French republics. From Dr David Hume MBE, director of services, Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland ... http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/easter-1916-rebels-did-not-care-for-mandates-or-shirk-from-violence-1-7038811 ... THE Easter Proclamation of 1916 was signed by seven men. ... But they could hardly have been said to represent the majority of nationalists or Roman Catholics in Ireland. In fact the seven men who led this revolutionary attempt were a small group within a small group, the Irish Republican Brotherhood. ... “Can dead people tell you what to do? Which ones? Didn’t Daniel O’Connell say that a single drop of blood was too much to pay for liberty?” Dudley Edwards asks. Three groups, each with their own motives, participated in the Easter Rising. The Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB) was a secret revolutionary fraternity founded in the mid-19th century. They were also known as the '******s', and this group planned the rebellion. The second key group involved in the rising was the anti-war Irish Volunteers who had split from Redmond's Volunteers in 1914. They were led by Eoin MacNeill, a history professor who opposed the idea of an unprovoked rebellion, but the IRB secretly exercised considerable influence within the militia, controlling many of its leaders and officers. The third group to participate in the rebellion was the Irish Citizen Army, a small socialist paramilitary organisation led by James Connolly. The decision to rise was also based on the traditional ****** dictum that England's difficulty was Ireland's opportunity. ******s had long believed that only in time of war, with England distracted and the availability of a powerful European ally (Germany), could they hope to mount a successful challenge to the superior might of the British empire. The aftermath Most Irish people were appalled by the death and destruction unleashed by the rebellion. The defeated rebels were jeered and attacked by some onlookers as they were led through the streets of Dublin. But, as had occurred after earlier unsuccessful rebellions, Britain's response - including the execution of 15 of the leaders, the arrest of 3,430 men and 79 women (many of them entirely innocent) and the imposition of martial law throughout the entire country - provoked indignation and sympathy for the rebels. The sacrifice of the rebels converted previously unsympathetic nationalists to the republican cause. In the general election of December 1918, nationalist Ireland decisively rejected the Irish Party in favour of the new Sinn Fein party which identified itself with the 1916 rebels. Now we have the connection between Sinn Fein and the residue of the violent gang that would become the IRA. Why do we care? ******s would gravitate to the West of Scotland and mostly the streets of Glasgow. Here they would be confronted by Billy Fullarton's gang - The Billy Boys. People being people, would take sides. They would also support the team of their culture. Hence Rangers and Celtic, although they are football clubs, are supported for the most part not only as football clubs but also because they are counter cultures. Now in all honesty, do you think that the denizens of the Old Govan Arms, and their opposite numbers in numerous pubs of the opposite persuasion, do not know what they are singing and why they are singing it? I don't buy that point of view. You may, or then again may not, agree that the arguments presented by Prof. Tom Devine and supported by our opposite culture were directly responsible for having The Billy Boys song banned because of the word '******'. The SNP government has made sure by the introduction of the OBA that this word shall remain forever objectionable. These actions were not football related, but were strictly political. I don't know about you but I enjoy listening to the Rangers' support when it rotates through the whole songbook. I feel energized when Ibrox is rocking. I especially miss TBB, but that's just an opinion. The upshot is though, that we can't just go to the match on a Saturday and enjoy the game. We are forced, by the actions of others, to consider a more political environment. I don't have a police record, have never committed a felony, and yet if I want to watch the Rangers I am forced to watch the police filming me as I watch the game. Why? This is not football, this is politics. I never asked to be involved in politics while I watch my football team. Naivety just won't cut it here. We have to consider the political pressure exerted on us while being a Rangers' supporter. We also have to consider that Celtic and their supporters are entirely aware of the political pressure brought to bear on our club and support. With the outright bias of the media in many areas any slip is hugely exaggerated. I'm sure that the advisors in Humza Yousaf's campaign are targeting the 'Irish' element of the Labour vote when they staged this event. However, I view this event as a huge mistake. I think he has taken the 'non-Irish' vote for granted and that this will come back to bite not only him but the SNP in other districts. He can't stage an event in The Louden now, for example, who would believe him? Finally, you'll remember how the Rangers' support has been devastated in the last five years? Many times they have looked for leadership from somewhere because of the travesties that have taken place in the boardroom. In my view, and remember I am not a member of the RST, I think the RST are to be congratulated for their stance in challenging this obvious political bias by the party who gave us the OBA.

I heard them shouting for Sinn Fein and the IRA during that clip. Wait a minute, soccer clubs and their fans don't do politics ! Aye right.

Doncaster floats another winner.

I understand your stance but, ... " We also have an admission from the Govan Emerald CSC, who were based in this pub, that they attacked Rangers fans on the day of an Old Firm game some time ago." I think this gives a supporters' group licence to voice their disgust at public figures who conduct an event at such premises. You don't see their bias?

Just as Rangers have been able to climb back to ascendency by undergoing an almost complete clean-out from top to bottom, the corridors of Scottish Football's corporate offices also require to be sanitized. We need fresh thinking, fresh ideas, fresh executive actions and the stench of corruption completely eliminated. This can be achieved if the will to carry it through exists.

Here is the article and the relevant para. However, I thought I had read another story that said Robertson and his Aberdeen counterpart had actually flown over there to assist, but I can't find it. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/keith-jackson-neil-doncaster-peter-7371089#YBKspjp148gdWsai.97 ... No wonder then that the likes of Rangers and Aberdeen are backing him in this battle because if the door to the Champions League is slammed in Scotland’s face for good then the ramifications will be widespread and hugely damaging. ...

Unity? All you have done through this whole thread is snipe at BH. I don't know the guy, so I don't care one way or the other whether he gets elected but the conduct of you, and the rest of your RST clique, has been very divisive.

Shall we have to wait for the book to confirm that number?

I thought Stewart Robertson and his Aberdeen counterpart had gone along with Liewell to "assist" him.

A person should not seek humour from another person's discomfiture, however, this is delicious.

If you think she was saying one thing but meant another thing, then - #credibility.

Ha !! Och well.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

Since you appear to be privy to the information now, why not let the punters know now, and save any confusion being allowed to manifest itself?

If you can confirm that the figures are wrong, tell us what the correct figures are and put this nonsense to bed.

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2016/news/regional-daily-says-sorry-for-column-after-pressure-from-football-club/ This publication is aimed at the journalism industry. It would appear that Rangers - the club - are guilty of no more than requesting clarification. The Herald decided, on the advice of its lawyers, that it could not defend Spiers' statement. ... A spokesman for Rangers FC told HTFP: “There was no legal complaint or legal action made against The Herald on behalf of Rangers. Rangers simply asked if The Herald and its writers could prove the allegations. “The outcome was an apology and the club is entirely satisfied with that.” ... “That left us with a legal issue which had to be addressed. The matter was discussed at length by all parties involved and, on legal advice, we published the apology. “The issue we had was whether we could defend the contentious statement in court and the advice given was that we could not. That left us with no other option other than to apologise.”

The best-laid schemes o' mice an 'men gang aft agley,

Oooohhh!! That felt good.