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13 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

Nothing to lose?

I think my mortal soul knows where it’s headed.

Disappointed but relieved. Disappointed because every Rangers defeat especially a cup final is a disappointment. Relieved because I feared a thrashing by 4-0 or worse.

celtic managed to flood the midfield, have plenty back in defence yet get three or four up in attack. That speaks of better fitness and better coaching. Their manager is no mug and he’s had time to get his players to know and conform to his pattern.

Their ability to defend in numbers was greatly aided by the length of time it took Rangers to get from the half line to the penalty box.

Their players are better than ours. Raskin should be fine. Cantwell at least was willing to go forward quickly. Tillman was really poor. Auld McGregor did fine. The backs can’t defend. The centre backs were not bad apart from failing to prevent two classic centre forward’s goals. Morelos had no support. How about the rest of the attack? What attack?
 

The Scottish Cup must be won. The League title is beyond this team. Time to relax, play a bit of football and perhaps develop a consistent style of play.

15 hours ago, compo said:

Looks like city are back in the groove

And Everton back in a rut.

The Main Forums page has an intriguing abbreviation for this topic.

56 minutes ago, compo said:

Looks like United are on their way back 

No doubt about it, unfortunately. 

36 minutes ago, compo said:

Then of course there was 57 I was in attendance with my brother and father on the bright side there wasn’t a really big crowd that day but I think my father would have loved to strap Valentine to one of his 25pounders .

Did you have to bring this up?

I wasn’t there. I was watching my other team lose 0-5 at home to deadly rivals, strangely, the team Valentine played for before going to QP. The general consensus is that his replacement, a guy called Johnny Dutch, was a considerable improvement as a defender. I wish he’d been playing for Rangers instead of Valentine. 
 

The Hampden halftime score filtered round the ground about twenty minutes into the second half. The general consensus of friend and foe alike was that everything would come right in the end maybe with a replay. Wrong.

A word for Partick Thistle and their stunning success a decade or so later. I saw the ‘58 LCF when Hearts beat Jags 5-0.

Enough of these high scoring circuses. I’ll settle for 1-0 to the Righteous.

2 hours ago, compo said:

Like most of us i have seen my fair share of these finals one that really  stands out for me was the one against Greenock Morton who were having an excellent season under Hal Stewart and aided in this competition by some fan who blew a bugle hence the title the phantom bugler an excellent game up until half time Morton gave as good as they got second half Jim Forrest and his cousin  Alex Willoughby put them to the sword .

Mon the gers

Remember it fine, compo. Nice sunny afternoon at Hampden in the Mount Florida end. Morton had a young forward, Morris Elliott who was supposed to be putting Rangers to the sword. As you say it didn’t happen. 
I think that was the season Morton put out the Hibs in the qf after a replay. Huge Morton following at Easter Road in the first match with the bugle guy blowing his head off.

Rightly so.

I don’t know many of their players’ names, I’ve no idea how they play. I read that they’re not very good but they cruise past dross by four goals. Rangers struggle against the same dross. (Three against Livingston’s an improvement though)

3 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

Godrup himself, the best player I have ever seen live in our colours. All hail Brian, as he is the messiah! 

Grudging praise, as usual Tsb.

Perhaps the measure should be what players were either respected, even grudgingly, or absolutely dreaded by the followers of other clubs.

On reflection, the respect standard wouldn’t work in Scotland any more.

There could be a HoF with two levels, all round excellence being the upper level and fans’ favourites the lower. In my time for the upper level Young, Waddell, Caldow, Baxter, Greig, Henderson, Gough, Cooper, Laudrup, Gascoigne, Goram, McCoist. For the lower level Shearer, John Brown and any amount of others - where do you stop?

37 minutes ago, compo said:

Sadly these players today would be sent out to play some weird system and would never have blossomed.

True. Wardhaugh wide on the right, Steel wingback, Johnstone and Conn defensive mids.

37 minutes ago, compo said:

You should be proud of an uncle who played alongside real legends.

A Scottish international inside forward in the days when that meant something so maybe not so far off a legend himself. The competition for an international place included Billy Steel, Jimmy Wardhaugh, Alfie Conn, Bobby Johnstone. Who do you leave out?

5 minutes ago, buster. said:

Pardon the excuse to shout about my uncle.

 

If I had an uncle on the same board as Matthews and Mortensen you’d hear about it all day every day.

Stan Mortensen scores three in a cup final and it’s known as “Matthews’ Final”. Gordon Durie, you are not alone

6 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

You can't get more lucky than that...

Oh yes you,can. If you’re referring to Arsenal’s third the fourth has jam on it. Martinez has a nightmare five minutes.

4 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

Astonishing at the faux outrage about staging the WC in Qatar but quite happy to accept their money for club football 

Depends a bit on who’s getting the money.
Arsenal, United - fine.

City, Newcastle- tut, tut,

2 hours ago, der Berliner said:

one might probably think of "tougher" guys than Raskin, Roofe or Tillman

Have we got any tough guys, dB?

If a team puts the ball out of play, for whatever reason, that team loses possession and the other team can do what it likes with the ball. Resume play on that basis.
 

You certainly can’t expect to get it back because your own chap was injured. If you put it out because the other fellow was hurt, return of the ball is within the gift of his teammates so don’t expect anything. If the opposing team decides to give the ball back, do it by means of a foul throw. Anything else leaves room for doubt.

Was Beale right or wrong? In the Corinthian league he was right. In this league he was wrong. Any media hysteria would have died down in a fortnight. I get the impression that the media line is Tillmann is the villain with some grudged acknowledgement of Beale’s remedial measures. I don’t study media reports so it could be a wrong impression.

There were a few seasons when a cup-tie at Ibrox was a rarity. We are having some luck at a time when we most need it.

45 minutes ago, craig said:

KT wasn't quick enough to get there in the time needed....

Harold Davis even less so but his mere presence would have been enough to deter the Jags from over-reacting to the goal.

No tie is easy for this Rangers side but on paper, I can’t recall an easier path towards the final.

If Hearts can manage to torpedo celtic, I’d be minded to award them the trophy on the spot.

They are utter dross, aren’t they?

1 minute ago, ranger_syntax said:

Yes.

Did you not really mean method of delivery rather than results? In which case, I agree.

40 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

The results are very good but still not good enough

How would you improve the results? Convert the celtic draw to a win?