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CG needs to clarify this. What's going on ? why are SFA & SPL withholding monies ?

Hearts got this meaningless transfer embargo(instead of something much more severe) because SPL don't want to lose them in case they quit SPL to join SFL & other SPL clubs decide to follow them.

Couldn't agree more. Excellent

in all honesty m8 I think Ally's now realising he can't cut it as a manager. His sole objective this season is simply to win SFL3 ( never mind league cup & scottish cups) and after that I think he'll leave

Is this idiot oblivious to the real world ? look at the SPL today - Hearts are on the verge of meltdown, Motherwell & Killie would appear to be the 2 clubs on the verge of quiting the SPL ( mentioned in the full article not this one) and according to Leggo's sources SKY are considering binning Scottish football next summer ( presumably due to the abysmal viewing figures). It's biggest sponsor could walk away not to mention the fact that Clydesdale bank have already said they're quiting at the end of the season. Yet this eejit thinks the SPL garden is rosy. Are Dundee Utd, Aberdeen, Hibs & last but not least Ra Sellik planning a four team league by any chance ? that's the way it's beginning to look.

Very intersting article. SFL beckons for jambos(no chance Romanov will pay this) along with Motherwell & Killie whom I believe are the two clubs dis-satisfied with the SPL & considering quiting. If the SFL got those three and maybe a couple of others the SPL would be finished.

Pointless even thinking about CL. Immediate concern is getting a consistent run of decent performances in SFL3 - something which seems to be beyond us at present. Regards Mr Green I do wish he'd tell us how he intends to get the monies due to us from the corrupt SFA/SPL. Launch the exocets please Charles. Lets get them into court. It's the only way to deal with these cretins........

don't worry I'm sure Mr Doncaster from the SPL will explain how one of its clubs can apparently be run by three companies. No rules will have been broken ( if there were any in the first place) and even if there were any broken the fat, lardass lawyer McKenzie will rewrite them anyway. That's the way these things work is it not?

Of course. Him too. This D&P stuff is all a red herring to divert us away from the real culprits

what about Fullerton & Kane at LBG ?

I still want to know the role of LBG in all of this. Did Celtic-supporting Fullerton & kane blackmail SDM into selling to Whyte ? Whyte was a disaster waiting to happen. He hadn't the funds to buy or run the club. AJ said as much at the time. How right he was. I believe this D&P stuff is a smokescreen to divert attention away from the individuals who caused all of this.

as I said earlier playing in a getting-poorer SPL every year won't do them any good. Their current players will eventually leave for better leagues & new ones will be inferior to the ones they're replacing. I genuinely believe we'll be back in the top tier of scottish football next season, whatever it'll be called

without us they'll struggle to keep their current players to play in a meaningless SPL & struggle to attract decent new players. Qualifying for CL will therefore be harder as a result. If he was honest ( which he isn't) Liewell would admit he wanted us kept in SPL but with points deductions for each season over 2 or 3 years. It was only when a few of the hooped horrors from their supporters associations got in on the act he changed tune.

yes it does Scott. It's all about Sporting Integrity you know.

That's what the company Celtic FC Ltd were formerly known as. Both Celtic FC Ltd & Celtic plc are very much in use today. It's The Celtic Football & Athletic Coy Ltd which isn't used much. Maybe Mr Doncaster at the SPL could explain to us how one club can be run by three different companies. Must be in the SPL rulebook somewhere though.

I genuinely believe CW had a plan which went disasterously wrong. My biggest wish is to find out if Fullerton & Kane at LBG blackmailed SDM into selling to CW. If he didn't co-operate they'd withdraw credit. For obvious resons SDM can't say but hopefully the criminal investigation will find out if true

What about a third company Celtic FC Ltd set up in 2001 ? there's actually 3 companies of theirs on the go

Everyone blames HMRC for oldco collapse but forgets on Feb14 the BTC hadn't been decided ( we didn't owe anything) and it was Whyte not HMRC who had applied for administration because of unpaid PAYE & NI. The role of LBG is always overlooked in all of this. I repeat did they force SDM to sell to CW & if he didn't they'd withdraw all credit ? FFS MIH had borrowings of around £750m yet they seemed more concerned with Rangers £18m. Why ? who was involved in this & yes m8 what was muir's input too?

regarding whyte's purchase of Rangers I have the following questions: 1) were manus j fullarton & archibald g kane still in employment with LBG at the said time ? 2) is it true after then chairman AJ claimed to have agreed debt repayment plan with LBG, SDM was told if he didn't sell club to CW all credit would be withdrawn ? were both named in above question the reason for this ? if so for what reason(s) other than their association with Celtic FC? Whyte was an accident waiting to happen. AJ said as much at the time of the purchase. Whyte hadn't the funds either to purchase the club or run it. It is utterly astonishing this takeover ever went ahead. Little wonder it's the subject of a criminal investigation.

Don't be so easily fooled. Their attendances are in freefall at home. Against Dundee recently the ground was half empty. Remember not so long liewell wanted us in SPL as newco with points deductions for 3 seasons effectively handing them the titles. Why was that ? Our absence is hitting them too, especially when reduced revenues affect their massive wage bill. Their CL money this season will only keep them ticking over. Without in seasons ahead they'll face financial KO's like the others

You need to remember Liewell literally bullied these clubs into voting us out the SPL. If they didn't then these clubs wouldn't get the paying celtic support at their grounds next season. No Rangers means Celtic get the lucrative CL opportunity with little opposition by easily winning the SPL. Now though everything is falling apart. These clubs face serious revenues shortfalls ahead. With low viewing figures the SKY deal will be re-negotiated downwards next season (unless we're back). Sponsors are deserting e.g Clydesdale bank. The Motherwells & Kilmarnocks rely heavily on this money.So staying with the SPL has risks especially as it's in competition the the SFL who now have a stronger hand thanks to Rangers. You need to remember too the SPL is bust. It didn't pay Rangers prize money last season. Preumably it was distributed to the clubs? What happens when CG comes calling for it via the court of session ? or the harper mcleod legal bill rumoured to be £1m? goodnight SPL that's what. A restructured SFL top league may well result next season but the Liewells, Petries & Thompson must have no input to it

but if the other 9 are at odds with them they have one hell of a problem. watch this space..........

it's what the remaining SPL clubs decide to do which is the key. If they're unhappy and resign from the SPL what would happen to the SPL ? According to Bill McMurdo's recent blog there's 2 SPL sides ready to quit the SPL. Others have suggested as many as 5.

and if they have all brought about the end of the SPL & apply to join SFL, which SFL Division should they all be admitted to? div3?

EXACTLY. they would then have an excuse to finish the SPL