RANGERRAB

following tuesday's verdict it is time to move on & question the role LBG played in all of this. Did they force SDM to sell to whyte? if so who at LBG insisted on this & why ? after all our bank debt was being steadily reduced under the stewardship of AJ. was fullerton and/or kane involved ? or did they get some patsy within LBG to do it for them? this whole episode is far from over. I believe this whole thing was orchestrated. We must find out who was behind it all & why. It is too easy to blame SDM. Let us get the real culprits

A couple of things were conveniently overlooked in the Rangers documentary:- 1) EBT's weren't illegal. Over 5,000 UK companies had them before they were abolished 2) SDM had reduced our debt down to £6m by the time PLG became manager in 2006 after the shares issue he underwrote. But it was Daly who did the documentary and anything he does regards Rangers is inevitably biased because he's a tim.

The BBC in general is unaccountable & out of control (especially at pacific quay where it does what it likes) Only way to change this is to get rid off the licence fee & force it look elsewhere for its revenue. Only then would it be prepared to look at who they employ & what they were broadcasting. No viewers or less viewers would affect its revenue. They'd change their tune then alright.

Black & McLeod are too similar playing together in central MF IMO. We need more creatvity in central MF

A 16 club top division means only 2 OF games (assuming no split). SKY won't buy it

I've said b4 SKY will dictate any changes to Scottish leagues

How CG succeeds in improving us commercially will go a long way to determine how successful his stewardship is. Murray abandoned ship long ago and we were drifting on & off the park. Then of course we had Whyte who should never have got the club in the first instance IMO. At least we're now seeing signs of people in charge who are prepared to fight our corner with our enemies & trying to improve our commercial performance which hasn't been great over the past few years if we're honest. Also if Dave King wants to become involved again by investing then why not ? he's a real Rangers man like all of us on here. He's winning his battles with SARS as he said he would. Don't listen to the negativity about him from the usual sources after all THEY have one of the biggest tax-avoiders on the planet in DD as a major shareholder

I'm old enough to remember him as a player. Scotland simply doesn't produce players of his calibre any more. Get well soon Sandy

Were there SPL games on today ? never noticed

they needed a big fish to catch the attention. We fitted the bill. I believe they also targeted BP(or some other multi-national based in the UK) who had EBT's too & sent them a tax bill. They declined to pay it & were offered FTTT like we got. They refused that too & told HMRC if they wanted money they'd need to go to court. If HMRC won then they told HMRC they'd consider moving their HQ out of the country losing them billions more in tax than they'd get from EBT's. We were an easy target cos we couldn't up sticks & leave the country like multi-nationals could. I've done a fair bit of reading up on EBT's in general. Some of the stories in the tabloids are totally inaccurate

Tell that to SKY (biggest finanincial contributor to scottish football) who have seen their viewing figures collapse in some cases for live SPL games. We'll see what they've got to say at the end of the season whether they remain or not. Also don't be fooled by SPL attendance figiures. Many clubs like St Mirren are going round giving free tickets to their SPL home games to local schools & boys clubs. Others like Hibs & Aberdeen have been giving at least one free u16 season ticket for each adult season ticket bought. Others will have done something similar no doubt So I wouldn't read too much into this. It is written by McKeowen after all. You know who he supports don't you?

very interesting. the backgrounds of these people should be made available & their allegiances known

Use the money to buy shares.

They seemed to acknowledge they've no chance of getting into England. The English would never have them because they know they're a vile, hardline Irish Republican, anti-British organisation.

you need to take any attendance increases in the SPL with a pinch of salt. Many clubs like St Mirren for example have been going round local schools & boys clubs and giving away free tickets to their home SPL matches. Others too have been giving away at least one free u16 season ticket for each adult season ticket bought. I believe Aberdeen & Hibs operated this scheme. Im sure there will have been other attempts at inflating SPL attendances which from a business point of view simply aren't sustainable

Think much of what you say is what the criminal investigation is all about. There were individuals who were employed in certain organisations who had access to confidential information about Rangers who clearly divulged this information to ant-Rangers bigots whose names I won't mention but we know

EBT's weren't illegal m8. Over 5,000 UK companies had them.

Absolotely no chance us or them from the east end will ever get to the EPL. The English clubs wouldn't have us for a start. They've just signed a new, very lucrative TV deal and don't need us either. I see Liewell was going on about European regional leagues today. Me thinks the Japanese General may be realising the folly of voting us out the SPL last summer and getting the other SPL stooge chairmen to do the same. Attendances at SPL games at the girodome will soon be in 4 figures if they continue as they are................ And Lemmon was saying it'll be hard to convince his players to stay in the SPL (or that's how I interpret it). All not rosy in the SP Hell garden is it? Oh wait there's a BBC Alba SPL TV contract... they can but try I suppose

BIG WOWEEE !!! How much they paying for it?

THEY will be OK. It's the other 11 who have the most to worry about. Without them there is no league competition.

This was the problem in a nutshell. HMRC couldn't/wouldn't do deals with Whyte. But, as I've said numerous times before,we must find out how Whyte got the club at all. His dodgy business history was well known. On the day he got the club the Daily Telegraph had an article all about him & his colourful past. No one was duped. His past was there for all to see. No, I believe it was LBG and the 2 amigos running the scottish division who blackmailed SDM into selling to Whyte who was a car crash waiting to happen. Forget HMRC.

When we were voted out of the SPL and got accepted into the SFL little did the SPL clubs realise at the time that they were in effect voting for the end of the SPL as we shall soon find out. Remember our chum Rhegan has said he too wishes one governing body as per McLeish report. As usual however he's not said which one. Lack of leadership as Ally said a few short months ago. How true Ally.

Dave Longmuir isn't stupid. He knew the proposals the other day were simply a shot across the bow of the SPL. Frankly it didn't matter if it was 16-10-18 or whatever but this is simply the SFL(with Rangers in their ranks) sabre-rattling as they attempt to seize control of Scottish Football and put the SPL out of business altogether. What are the SPL's alternatives then? status quo ? we've already had SPL chairmen stating the obvious that we don't need two bodies running the scottish leagues. One has to go. The smart money is on the SPL is it not? At the end of the day whoever runs the scottish leagues next season will need to sit down with its biggest financial contributor (SKY TV) and keep it onboard. Judging by this season's SPL viewing figures that might be a difficult task. Therefore SKY will have a major say on what happens next if scottish football wishes to survive from its current predicament. They will decide who is in the top division next season if scottish football wishes to retain their significant financial input. Sporting integrity? save the jokes for another day please. I firmly believe Rangers will return to the top division of scottish football next season whatever it may be called. I look forward to the many scalps taken along the way when we get there........

I was once told by a CA that you can literally create company accounts to make profits look as big or small as you wish. Debts aren't the be all & end all either so long as you can service the debt and the debt provider is happy with that there's no problem. Cashflow is the killer though and this is where all SPL clubs are in the brown stuff (or soon will be) . Reduced incomes through reduced sponsorship monies(CB ending sponsorship at end of season & what will SKY do next season ?) & falling attendances will bite at some point for all of them

It's not GCC's stadium. There would be an outcry the length & breadth of this country if a club got taxpayers money to do this.The opening ceremony could easily be moved. No m8 as I understand things, it's going back nearly 20 years as to how it got safety certificates in the first place. Remember the old CP with the smallish jungle ? it was small for safety reasons with entrances/exits around cemetery at rear. There was of course larger terraces behind goals.The old board said rebuilding CP would be difficult & started looking at other sites as u may recall. Then this 60,000 stadium got built, albeit on the cheap. Who approved it? say no more