RANGERRAB

who they are is irrelevant as long as they run rangers the way the fans demand. the shareholders will find and elect them or the boycott will remain.

Will these individuals be standing for election at the forthcoming AGM? Do we know who they are?

dave king is utterly irrelevant to the need for a new honest board who will run us properly. the only and i do mean only way we will get that is scaling up the boycott.

 

is we are lucky the new honest board will not reject kings millions like this one but thats a side issue.

And who will this new honest board consist of? How will they get elected? You need to look at this first of all.

King is not going to invest millions. Get over it. He has led people up the garden path and has now disappeared.

Just read this article by Waddell. Sounds as if it could have been written by the likes of the Union of Fools.

When will the penny finally drop that Dave King has not got and is not going to invest this mythical £30million?

He's disappeared. Won't be back. Won't hear from him again.Lets move on.....

Never did but he is still undeniably better than what we have.

Next week's ICT game is massive for Ally. Simply has to win it IMO

Now you are asking me for names, Rab!

You haven't got any names prepared to throw in their money have you?

Rab wants names! Whodathunkit?

Truth is the UoF have no one 'with money whom the fans can trust'. Why don't they just admit it?

Anyway what super wealthy person is going to throw money at Rangers and expect to have to get the consent of Dingwall,Graham etc every time they want to do something

The UoF want 'someone with money whom the fans trust'. Who is that then? Let them come out and name names if there is indeed anyone out there. Their previous backing of DK now looks like not so much as backing the wrong horse but backing a horse that isn't even running.

Rab doesn't know what he wants. He craves a billionaire to come in and spend money, yet he agrees that costs are too high as they currently are.

At this moment we need someone to put in money be that a billionaire or whoever to get us back to the top division.

We need a new board who can bring back fans in tens of thousands today.

And you can guarantee changing the board will automatically see 'tens of thousands' returning?

Well need to build a bigger stadium for starters for these 'tens of thousands' as they return.

Funnily enough I go to watch the team not the board

If we'd have sold the 14,000 season tickets missing from last years at £450 a pop (just averaging things out) we would see Christmas before the begging bowl was on display. As I've said before, ST sales are immaterial when costs are still too high.

Wouldn't disagree with that. Need to stop paying a 36 year old £10k pw for starters

Can't you just have that as your signature to save you typing it out in every fucking thread?

Am I wrong? Unless that happens we're fecked to put it mildly

Rab, nothing personal but it has to be said that that, is truly delusional !

 

You either don't want to see what is going on, you can't see it and/or you have emotionally invested in a particular direction and you'll hang on until after the fat lady sings

Ok where has it been going then? Our first team squad and it's overpaid manager and coaches consume by far and away the lions share of our money.

As for the board the Easdales don't take salaries & Crichton and Somers get about £110k p.a.between them. Wallace and Nash are the only ones who get salaries and Id admit GW is on way too much for where we are.

Why did we need all that?

 

Couldn't we just have rebuilt properly even if it took 5 years 10 years so what? We wouldn't have been constantly looking over our shoulders worrying where money was coming from

Our supporters would not wait 5 years let alone 10 years

We need a new owner who will bring in investment before the end of this year or we're fecked and back to league1 we go following administration

How do Barcelona and Real Madrid and most of the German top tier do it?

 

And if they can do it, why can't we?

 

This idea of waiting until a billionaire comes along is draining the club and killing it - along with being akin to believing in Santa.

 

Let us put faith in ourselves - just as our founders did.

It's an idea which isn't practical for funding reasons alone IMO. This is scottish football were in not la liga or the like

Having a goal of owning a mere quarter of the club and then drawing a line under it is, I regret to say, political naivety and an own goal.

 

The sharks can still come in to swim in the Rangers pond, and if they are ruthless enough, the will chew up and spit out minority shareholders without drawing breath. It sounds as though this 25% plan has been drawn up by beancounters who have no concept of the clout that majority owners with menace on their minds have.

 

Fan ownership excludes the sharks from existing within our midst, and even if the odd one does make it to the highest office, we can elect him away and choose - actually choose - his or her replacement.

 

This 25% idea is a sticking plaster and bandages non-solution to our problems. The club needs a revolution, and the revolution is full fan ownership. I really wonder why we are so afraid of it.

Not afraid of it. It's impractical. Smacks of cottage industry mentality. I asked earlier how you'd fund your financial model

A goalkeeper.

We didn't buy him

Oh but we will. Our numbers grow daily. Season books next year will be 15k if your lucky if the ****s remain.

 

At some point the shareholders will be forced to give us what we want or lose millions.

Or shut the place down completely. Have you thought of that option?

The shareholders already have lost millions

Again I will point out that we have a board who bought a player in august that the didn't have enough cash to pay in September.

 

People like this have no future at Rangers.

Who did we buy?

They seem to have absolutely no idea how to run a business, when they took us over we were losing a million a month almost 3 years later we're still almost losing that much.

 

The board should have drastically reduced spending even if that meant it took us 5 years to get back to where we were, the ipo shouldn't have went out to this year at the earlier instead they have lined their own pockets allowed our manager to spend spend spend and done nothing but lie to us. Thats why fans want them out

FWIW two years ago I was opposed to us going to the bottom tier because I didn't think it was affordable for us to go up the divisions the way we intended doing so. We needed experienced proven players to do so in the shortest possible timescale and that has so far worked albeit at considerable cost. Playing a bunch of kids paid peanuts would have been risky with no guarantee of being successful.That is mainly why we've been losing so much money.We need to get back to the top division and back into Europe ASAP.

Why settle for second best? Why be a minority to an uninvited majority owner? If Mike Ashley owned 51% of Rangers, and if he wanted to sell off Murray Park or Ibrox, do you really think a 25% stake would stop him?

 

We are being manipulated already with this new membership sham and decent fans are falling for it. Any CEO of Rangers with a fast buck priority will easily neutralise a minority group holding 25%. Settling for being a minority stakeholder in Rangers is an accident waiting to happen.

 

We have to learn our lesson - a halfway house - or quarter way - towards fan ownership is not the answer. Outright ownership where the members, not the shareholders, own the club is the revolution that simply has to happen.

 

We don't need any more chairmen - we need elected presidents.

Where would the 'members' secured funding from? Would they be able to secure overdraft facilities? Many more questions.Pie in sky IMO

All I see is the S.P.I.V.S doing financial damage to the club.

My decision not to renew was my choice and not influenced by any supporters, I wouldn't be so disrespectful to fans to throw an accusation like that at them,it's all about choices.

Who in their right mind would invest in a club just to line the pockets of the S.P.I.V.S.?

What financial damage? Please elaborate

Good it's about time fans got what they want not ****s.

They're not going to get what they want.Cant you realise this?

Should we just accept what our board is doing then?

FWIW I'm no great admirer of the board but until something better comes along we have no choice.Its not a situation I'm happy with either but whilst there are individuals and organisations trying to inflict financial damage that will reduce the likelihood of getting a new owner or much needed investment

Actually, it is more like some people also blame some fans for all this, which can't be denied. It simply is part of our rather complex predicament.

Just who would want to pay money to take over Rangers or invest in Rangers whilst you have organisations and individuals within its support encouraging supporters to inflict financial damage to the club?