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Unlike the BBC the Rhecord can put out whatever articles it likes regardless. If C1872 or anyone believes any of these articles are libellous then they should act accordingly.

I don't read or buy the Rhecord. I couldn't care what it writes. But I hope we're not developing paranoia here.

The Rhecord is a national newspaper with a circulation which is falling fast. From a business perspective I'd suggest alienating the Rangers support is very unwise

'The Daily Record is entirely free to push a one sided agenda if it so wishes'

It's been that way for years with anything rangers-related. Just don't buy the rhag or read it on line. It'll be gone in a few years anyway if it's circulation keeps falling the way it is just now. The sooner the better.

I agree why not put the loss to bed and look positively at coming season:crest

I'm sure we'd all love to do that but after getting put out ELQ1 by Progres Niderkorn don't you think a lot of the concern is more than justified

Do they want Windass too?

The latest TV deal could be the start of a domino effect of multiple issues. Clubs getting funds to a new level and players moving on transfers that bar China are in a league of their own. In the coming few seasons you could see a few clubs doing a Leeds. The Premier league used to be two horse races, Man Utd / Newcastle, Man Utd / Arsenal in the 90s. Then Chelsea joined the race, then Man City. And now Spurs are in their albeit not via money and Everton are stepping it up also. Yet there is only 4 CL spaces so 3 will miss out. It cant be that far away before a Euro Super league will have genuine discussions.

Given a choice between the EPL or CL english clubs would take the EPL every time as it's worth more to them financially. Also why I don't think English clubs would be too keen on any super euro league

Given that we have a new manager and 9 new players; can someone please explain to me what the DoF does for the rest of the season apart from pick up a fat salary?

He has plenty to do. Ship out as many of MW's duds before the end of next month & replace them with better quality signings.

And he needs to be ready to bring in a new manager at short notice should this situation arise in the near future as I expect it will...

What do we do now that sackings haven't took place?

 

Well it's plain obvious...

 

Board stick with what we have because...

a) Board are skint and can't afford to pay Pedro off!

b) Board don't want to embarrass themselves more due to continuous mistakes on selecting a manager!

 

I'll opt for b) and why we currently find ourselves in the soup of the day.

I'd agree hence why they've opted for a D of F.

But the D of F must have his choice as manager IMO.

After last week I'm not sure about that

I agree that we should have won against this team, however you only make managerial changes if it's in the interests of the club. I'm just glad the board is sensible enough not to suffer from the hysteria of this result and appears to be giving the manager the time he needs and deserves. Anything else would be ridiculous. I've said before, it's this type of reaction from fans that has me deeply concerned about the prospect of fan ownership. I'd hate to think that fans like you would force such a change of manager or even resist taking the risk of someone like PC in the first place. That's not personal against you. It's just an honest concern that I have. I'm personally glad we have a board that has courage in its convictions, and it's that same courage and conviction that gave them control of the club to save it.

Don't you think when we can't beat Progres Niederkorn over two games then someone has to accept responsibility ?

As for Caixinha I've been unconvinced by him since we lost 5-1 at home to the yahoos.

This wasn't an excuse .... I was just stating facts. Maybe you misunderstood.

Maybe I did misunderstand your comment but it is totally unacceptable that we got put out the ELQ's by a team like Progres Niederkorn..

Even worse is that no one has resigned or been sacked as a result of last week.

I think AEL will beat them comfortably in Cyprus, watched no doubt by some Bears who had already booked the trip/holidays.

 

But let's make no mistake about it, AEL would have been a tough one for us.

I know it's a long way off but should we not be arranging a number of friendlies throughout the season against the likes of AEL in preparation for next season's qualifiers. And not against the likes of RB Leipzig this time maybe

What do you mean by this? Our club was banished to the lower leagues, meaning that we have been out of European football for years. That's the position we find ourselves in, and you think that is our fault?!? Maybe it is, but what value was your post in pointing that out again?

 

We have a long way to go to recover as a club, and pre-season qualifying this early is the consequence. That's what def Berliner was simply stating, as if you didn't know.

Excuses, excuses....we should have been more than capable of beating a team that finished 4th in the luxembourg league

Today ...

 

FT

Progrès Niederkorn 0 - 1 AEL Limassol

As it should have been for us last week....

Are the people who run the DR daft ?

Its circulation is going thro' the floor. I'd have thought the last thing it needs is a Rangers boycott

Can Lovenkrands still play ? Younger than Kenny Miller I believe. If things get as bad as I expect then who knows

People seem to forget the 5-1 drubbing at home to Celtic that could have been 9-1. the loss to Aberdeen at Ibrox for the first time in 26? years. It is not just about 1 result but a series of results. And don't give me the "he was trying them out crap"

Some of the tactics baffle me such as Kenny Miller playing in MF. Like he was at Ibrox against Progres Niderkorn second half

The worrying thing is now that there are rumours of dressing room problems as senior players think Pena and Harrera are not near the standard that is needed to improve the team.

If this is true then it is very worrying news indeed.Looks the D of F could be very busy in the weeks & months ahead

Tynecastle had a very comfortable 3-1 win over East Stirling tonight. Looks like they have made a significant improvment from last season.

 

A Rangers team should still be beating them though.

Am I expecting too much to suggest ourU20'sshould be significantly better than Tynecastle or East Stirling ?

Their shares are all in Celtic plc, it's the class of shares that vary.

So some have got voting shares & some don't. Why would anyone buy non-voting shares?

So who owns Celtic FC Ltd ?

Desmond owns over 40% of Celtic, he was granted a Rule 9 waiver.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/4626484.stm

 

https://www.investegate.co.uk/celtic-plc/rns/publication-of-prospectus/200510281729003508T/

Which one of their companies does Desmond own over 40 percent of ?

Is it the same one as the one Mccann got them buying shares in but no voting rights ?

We can only look on in envy at the TV & sponsorship money down south.

Scottish football administered its own suicide (or sporting integrity as idiots would call it) when we got voted out the then SPL in 2012.

Nor should they be! I've had a couple of shocking days at my work in the past few months but I wouldn't expect to be sacked either. You guys really need to get a grip and stop this hysteria. We lost a game of football because one team took their two chances and we didn't take ours. We won the first game and should have been out of sight at half time. That's football.

 

As for the manager being sacked because he should make sure the players are fit .... fitness is about mental fitness too and if you're the attacking team (which we were), it takes 6-7 weeks to reach the sharpness required for this style of football (or any other for that matter). Progres should be commended because they had a game plan which relied on them putting eleven men behind the ball and keeping us out. They did it brilliantly, and it annoys me to hear them called a pub team. There are few pro teams that can keep the concentration going for as long as they did and I take my hat off to them.

Seriously ?? Are you try to make excuses for not being able to beat Progres Niderkorn over two legs ? Okay they're not a pub team they're a village team. Is that any better ?

One week later & I still cannot believe or accept that result. And find it even more difficult to take that no one has taken responsibility for it within Rangers. If we want to be a big club we need to start behaving like one.

Don't hold your breath mate. Nobody will be sacked.

Very worrying indeed if that's the case. We need far higher performances targets throughout at Rangers

One week on from our worst ever result no one has been sacked & no one has resigned.

Absolutely shocking

It may not be a distant day in the future if we continue to get similar results to last week...

after which the new D of F should appoint the manager.

No longer a case of IF but WHEN and HOW the manager is replaced.