Blue Moon

We could have been doing with articles like this for the last few months, not at the last minute, although I am grateful for it nonetheless. The treatment of Rangers and their fans by the press and the footballing authorities has been nothing short of a disgrace. The media have been the mouthpiece for the very people he condemns. "One day the truth about the subterfuge, deception, and downright spitefulness used to prolong this saga might be told but right now those who are trying to save what is left of the game need to be given space." I hope he means what he says that once this is over the truth will come out. I can't wait and I hope there is a lot going on behind the scenes to make sure the truth is told. Heads will roll over this. We must also learn from this that dignified silence does not work in the internet age. We have put up no meaningful defence of ourselves. If James traynor can say it, why has no-one from the club, past or present, been saying these things? We have been badly caught out. Traynor hasn't said anything that hasn't been said daily on this site.

Pressley did an about turn on Friday! Friday 29 June 2012 Text size Elvis: Clubs will go bust without Rangers By MATTHEW LINDSAY STEVEN Pressley today warned the anger over the Rangers crisis could result in more clubs going bust. SPL clubs are set to unanimously reject the Ibrox club's application to join the top division at a vote at Hampden on Wednesday. And now it looks as if their SFL counterparts are set to follow their lead and scupper the newco's hopes of dropping into the Irn-Bru First Division.Cowdenbeath – the Fife minnows chaired by former Gers director Donald Findlay QC – are the only club to have given the thumbs up to the Glasgow club joining them. Falkirk, Morton and Partick Thistle have all publicly said they will reject the move while rivals are consulting with supporters before declaring their intentions. Fans of SPL and SFL clubs have threatened to boycott both their own clubs and opposition clubs if they vote to let Rangers into the top flight or Irn-Bru First Division. They want to see the newly formed club start at the bottom in the Third Division and try to work their way up. But Bairns boss Pressley has issued a call for calm and expressed the fear that hammering his former club Rangers will lead to other clubs going into administration and liquidation. He said: "There is a lot of anger about what has happened at the moment and I think that could be clouding people's judgement. We need to have clear thinking at this point. "Many clubs will suffer financially without Rangers involved and that should not be underestimate in all this. Other clubs could realistically go to the wall and that is not something that I or anybody else wants to see. "I can see why people want the club to be punished, but, personally, I think we should try to reach some sort of compromise. "And I don't just want to see one that will only benefit Rangers and the big clubs in the country. The solution to this problem has to benefit the game in this country as a whole."

What a great piece. Sums up my attitude towards the lack of facts in the discussions of this crisis. Nothing, however, can describe the feelings of Rangers fans and I think, by and large, we have been ignored in all of this. I think that this will be one of the enduring legacies of this whole thing and it will take generations to heal the wounds that have been inflicted upon us by all and sundry.

Surely that can't be used if we have to drop down to SFL3?

On what grounds would they refuse to admit us?

I don't see the point of this article tbh. I will not criticise Walter Smith for trying and failing. If we turn on this man for that we have totally lost the plot.

I think if their contracts didn't cover them for a newco then we would all know that. I would not have criticised them for leaving after transferring if we go to SFL3 and, for the cream of the crop, for the lack of European football. Having said that I doubt if any of them, perhaps McGregor and Naismith excepting, will ever get a sniff of European football before we do. Nevertheless, I could have fully understood their reluctance to play in SFL3 when they are at the peak of their careers but we don't know where we will be playing!!! I disagree with your statement about the PFA. Without these organisations we would still have one day off a year. Players, like everyone else deserve employment protection rights and if the law is on their side then so be it.

And an embarrassment, not Rangers class.

But they didn't have to stay, they only had to tupe across, see how things panned out then they were free to go for much reduced values. I will never forget what they have done, especially the "Rangers men".

I don't think this is finished by a long way. I think they will cut and run but until then they have my support unless I hear something real, rather than imaginary, to make me think otherwise.

Bang on cue, to illustrate my point. What a volte face from Steven Pressley http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/elvis-clubs-will-go-bust-without-rangers.18015175

Fairytale stuff alright. We have applied to join, SFL1 is the authorities recommendation for economic reasons, a different set of circumstances to Fiorentina. This is no longer just about what to do about us but has provided an opportunity for change that was not possible before our crisis. If that works in our favour then I am all for it. SFL1 for me. I think we will start to see more pragmatic thinking over the next few days from chairmen and journalists. If not the whole game is screwed.

Rioch gives us something we haven't had for a wee while - hope.

What a great statement, pity some of the others hadn't taken time to think about what they were going to say. I really hope he stays.

Maybe it is time for out with the old and in with the new. I could identify a number of people on this forum that I think would do a damn good job.

I know nothing about the politics or leaders of all of these groups so can consider myself as an outsider looking in. It would seem to be against the interests of the club and supporters to have all of these different groups which are not working effectively. We need one official group, with sub committees that report to the group and spokesmen that represent the views of the majority of the supporters. This is something that really needs to be sorted out. If the current groups cannot work together then a completely new official Rangers Supporters Group should be established by the club with elected office bearers. The fringe groups should be identified as such and not representative of the views of the supporters. Now I will get my tin hat on and into my trench.

Did cross my mind in the beginning too but I think that was hopeless optimism. When I read what they had said I felt betrayed and saddened that they were letting the club and supporters down. Now I have had time to think aout it, they are the same as many, many fans and many on these forums who have fallen for myths being perpetrated by the press and the representatives of other clubs and, as far as I am aware have not been counteracted by anyone at the club, that we have been declared guilty for the EBT's and cheating. It reminds me of the public's perception when the war in Iraq happened and people were justifying it because of the twin towers and Osama Bin Laden. This makes our crimes appear to justify sterner punishment. I agree the liquidation changes the severity of the situation and it would be unfair to remain in the SPL but to constantly question our integrity is grossly unfair. I still think the players jumped ship too soon and they have let us down. Hope that doesn't sound too contradictory.

I wish everyone would stop using the phrase "sporting integrity". Iam getting really sick of hearing it. It is becoming really hackneyed. I wish this was all over.

Shame they couldn't make the same fuss about the fact that Regan knew.

If things were going to change the daily Record would have headlined that Regan knew.

Have just listened to this. This must be taken forward by the club and reported everywhere in the media.

I cannot take any more rumours. I am only dealing in facts from now on.

Agreed and in writing.

I was being facetious cos I feel something approaching happiness tonight. I started a post earlier then deleted it cos it was a negative and there has been enough negativity from me lately. I nor anyone else knows what they will do about that but I am certainly worried about it. My earlier post was to say "are they putting us in the first division to leave them leeway to relegate us over EBTs?"

Should be pursued through the courts. HMRC made clear they were going after the guilty parties and that Rangers had a freash start.