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Tomorrow's Record - King predicts financial meltdown again?
3909 04 replied to Zappa's topic in Rangers Chat
So we shouldn't accept investment from "Chuck's friends", we should only consider investment which comes from Dave King aka "Paul's friend"? I see.- 115 replies
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Yes, that's true. It would of course be better for the scheme if RST figures embraced it instead of endlessly parroting, "I don't see why we can't just stick with Buy Rangers..." FF looks like it's about 50/50 already, which is very encouraging.
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With all due respect, this scheme can be hugely successful with or without the backing not only of the RST board but of every RST member. As for FF, a cursory glance would tell you that many posters on the site back this scheme despite the stubborn opposition of the site owner and his loyal henchmen.
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If this is indicative of the slacker attitude which you bring to this initiative, I call on you to stand down forthwith. Begone!
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Interesting to note that sentiments such as the line highlighted above are now accepted on here without comment. Had I made a similar point on here any time up to the last ten days or so, a torrent of censure would have ensued. That's progress!
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Mr Dingwall has already had a pop at "loonball" Brahim's likely involvement. Our man BH will need a thick skin in order to participate...
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Negatives To Positives (Andrew Dickson writes about Super Ally)
3909 04 replied to Zappa's topic in Rangers Chat
I can't be the only one who sees zero merit in this succession of ultra-lightweight McCoist puff-pieces from Dickson. In the last week, we've had Dicko assuring us that Ally is about to give youth its chance, followed one week later with a solemn reminder that this is a time for experienced heads. Say something interesting or better still say nothing at all, DIcko. -
Supporters Direct chief calls on Rangers fans to unite...
3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Odd paragraph. Is it OK for successful fans to criticise King? No-one is forcing DK to invest. What he does with his money is his business. But if he's not a shareholder and if he has no intention of becoming one until he's happy that he can dictate terms to the board, it might be an idea for him to desist from making contributions to damaging, scaremongering stories about our finances in the gutter press. -
Supporters Direct chief calls on Rangers fans to unite...
3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Good, I had a question on this. I'm struck by the dichotomy between the fans' stance on FO (eagerness to buy shares in the club) and the standpoint of Dave King (complete reluctance to buy shares). Despite this, King remains the favoured option of many fans to "invest" in the club via a new share issue, as opposed to buying existing shares and insodoing "lining spivs' pockets". I'm not sure why fans should feel so warmly disposed to another would-be hero who, like McColl before him, talks a good game but refuses to join them in coughing up. I had just had rather a lengthy Twitter debate with Chris Graham on this very subject. Any thoughts? -
What would be the aim(s) of any boycott? You want the Easdales to leave and hand their shares back to the club for £0, is that it?
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I would say that's a plan with which fans will identify a good deal more than with any suggestion of an out and out boycott. Whatever your view of the Easdales, fans starving the club of funds right now is madness.
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So I'm clear, how do you suggest getting rids of the "spivs", seeing as you don't think DK should line their pockets and you won't join a FO scheme? What's the plan? Are you going to close your eyes and wish really, really hard that the spivs walk out, leaving their shares behind?
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Supporters Direct chief calls on Rangers fans to unite...
3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the RST. Our catchy slogan: "Hi, we're the RST. We'll ignore your views, ridicule your feedback and dismiss your criticism. But if anyone discredits you in public, it wasn't us. It must have been other fans. Join us. Please?" Good luck with that!! -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Quite! I keep reading, "There's no need for any other body to champion FO. We already have a vehicle, the RST." Er, yes. So we do. What genuinely fascinates me is not the rights/wrongs of this latest bout of bitter RST in-fighting; it's the complete lack of self-awareness within this troubled group. Do they really believe that after eleven years, during which they've been outclassed and left standing by their Hearts counterparts, they can recover from this latest humiliation and go on to become an influential body within the club? I don't know whether to feel pity or amusement. But of course any negative PR aimed at the RST is caused by Jack Irvine, Rangers Media and those nasty, threatening Vanguard Bears, so you can discount every word I say. Cheers! -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
From numerous posts on FF and tweets expressing a contrary view, it's clear that many RST members, as opposed to board members, don't share this view. Some clarification on the current RST board members' views would indeed be beneficial. -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Hey. I thought that was you. I guessed right! -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Who's pro-board, though? I'm not. Despite the CEO's highly impressive credentials, I'm waiting to be convinced. I'd happily pose difficult questions and I'm sure others would also. My point is would anyone associated with the virulently anti-board fan groups be prepared to work alongside a board they clearly despise? -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Certainly not but would outspoken board critics want to work with them? -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Would you consider getting involved, Frankie? Until very recently, I would have considered you an ideal candidate but then you seemed to become very anti-board.... -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Hey Slinger If this new group looked like being successful, you could picket their meetings. That would show them. -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Fine, take me jovially if that makes you feel better. But the fact is while your recently departed board members are threatening each other with police action, FoH have just completed their buyout of Hearts. They've achieved more in a few months than the increasingly irrelevant RST could ever dream of, including a membership three times the size of the tiny fraction of the Rangers support which you amassed in eleven years. But of course this is all the fault of people who want to see you closed down, isn't that right? Yep, you guys are correct. It's all us pesky fans refusing to join you who have it wrong. Good luck with the recruitment drive, I'll watch with interest. -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
It sounds like your priority is the retention of the RST as a body rather than the well-being of the club. I would suggest that is the RST's main problem. No non-member of the RST gives a damn whether or not this troubled group continues to exist. Your tired and predictable "some want to wreck it" whine misses the point entirely. Far too often, the RST falls back on this absurdly ill-conceived view as justification for its continuation. If fan ownership ever occurs at Rangers, and I would welcome it fully, it will happen despite the RST, not because of it. Until you accept and face up the fact that your view is utterly at odds with reality, the RST will remain a small fraction of the size of the Hearts Trust. What a tragic strapline for a Rangers fans group to carry. -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
And what of the latest in a long line of very public fallouts between RST board members? Is that a further "endorsement of their worth", or a clear indication that their time is up? -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
I believe so, mate. I'm told the board took a very dim view of the organised fan groups' efforts to oust them and are looking to set up an entirely new body. -
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3909 04 replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
This is exactly where I am also. I believe this latest row, with Mr Dingwall's frankly unbelievable claim to be the victim while simultaneously resigning, along with the advent of a new club-led supporters group initiative will end the RST as a meaningful body. While this is very unfortunate, when you consider the sheer volume of incidents and the extent of the bitterness between the warring parties, I would say the end has been on the cards for some time, I've previously acknowledged the efforts and hard work of those involved and I'm happy to do so again but I really cannot see where the Trust can possibly go from here.