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No training today or yesterday, word is Ally thought some of the overworked stars were looking a bit jaded and neeeded a wee rest.

There was no training today.

Whyte has a piece of paper which is in the public domain stating he spent £1, there are no papers contractual ones stating he spent/lodged £18 million+ There is evidence of Close Brothers and the amateurish confusion around the hastily removed MG05, you couldn't make it up but someone has and very badly. PS training was cancelled for today, yes it is true.

There is no doubt that there is security pledged, just that it is the securities final end holder that is shall we say ambiguous. Whatever happens for £1 and a Gekko script the bank will eventually get their perceived debt, anyone who thinks any more than £1 changed hands should maybe figure out the evidence for this having happened. The main players all of them, are known for being economical with the truth, if the end result of the tribunal were to be evasion things would get very very interesting, if not and we get the result I think we will huge sighs of relieve will be heard from a vineyard somewhere.

Secured against whom rather than what, Murray to pay with the banks own money ?, toxic doesn't even begin to describe this pile of shit the whole £1's worth of it.

That if the tribunal went south the revenue would get all and the bank would get fuck all.

I can see a white knight sitting on yonder hill surveying all he still owns, when will he ride to the rescue ?

You would have to understand the nefarious intracacies of evasion and avoidance which I am sure you do, thickness of a cell wall and other adages, just let us say a bank which has had money by the billion from taxpayers is and has made sure that they will get theirs as they see it before anyone else revenue included. Murray must be laughing up his sleeve unless of course the £1 for a piece of paper which appears to have been written by Steven Spielberg and get a club free, gets exposed for what it is, fiction. Just to be clear about the accounts that may or may not have been signed of for the term end to 30 June 2011, they are more or less the previous regimes accounts.

I am reasonably certain that it is a circular and very cynical arrangement for the debt, it hasn't gone anywhere we as a club owe it to our new owner who will almost certainly owe it to LBG, they can dress it up any way they like leverage is leverage and our assets are one very big lever.

Just emphasising that Ellis is still a registered director of RFC group, the nicest thing that I can say is that the deal stinks from the bank down, it really should be investigated but there is no body or person with the teeth or authority to do anything about it aka Cadbury and countless others syndrome.

http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/913748742

The Rangers Fc Group Ltd RED FLAGS Status: Active Litigation: 0 results AT A GLANCE Inc Date: 17th Sep 2010 (1yrs) Annual Returns: 17th Sep 2011 Company Type: Ltd CREDIT SCORE COMING SOON Update Details GeneralFinancialsPeopleOpinions?ASSOCIATED DIRECTORS Name (age) Function Position Active Inactive Craig Whyte (40) Director Director 10 8 Andrew Ellis (44) Director Director 4 4 Philip Betts (48) Director Director 7 5 PREVIOUS DIRECTORS Paul Townsend (49) Director Director 219 70 Jordan Nominees (scotland) Ltd N/A Company Secretary 1 0 Show 2 More?SHAREHOLDER DETAILSNo shareholders?MEMBERS Rangers Tax-Case Position active COMPANY FINANCIALS ? View in GBP No accounts available Companies younger than 21 months are not required to file accounts. This company has not supplied any contact details. Get in Touch Registered Address 4 Bedford Row London WC1R 4DF Trading Address PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS; Previous Name Date Changed Wavetower Ltd 12th May 2011 DOCUMENT LISTDate Description Flag 17/09/2011 Annual returns 24/05/2011 Change of name 12/05/2011 Change of name 05/03/2011 Change of directors 22/10/2010 Change of directors 22/10/2010 Change in registered office address

If I was a bookie calculating the odds on the tax case we would be very heavy odds on favourites to get a result, HMRC for all their front and bravado allied to a good deal of "we are the Revenue what we say is final" are piss poor at these cases their record is abysmal even worse than has been claimed, it is about a 0.7% success rate. A lot of people and companies are realising that HMRC are subject to the same laws as everyone else, although they like to cultivate the myth that they are above it. My advice to anyone who has a case a good one against HMRC claims/assessments/bully boy tactics is to tell them go take a flying fuck and see them in court, as long as you are certain of your facts.

If kings account is true, he claims that the letters absolved the people they refer to from any repayment of monies advanced, that is a clear admission of not being very clever and a clear pointer to criminal evasion, not much point of arguing at a tribunal if your guilt is in black and white, of course we only have kings radio snyde comments on this to go on. I am beginning to wonder if any and all correspondence if any exists is on MIH paper, hence murray's desire to be in control through Thornhill, strange setup altogether almost as if it was arranged, if you get my meaning. Whyte and Murray are indeed a strange combination, more questions than answers.

Daryll King also claimed to have seen incriminating side letters, which if it was true would negate the need for any tribunal. Even it was true what if those side letters were on MIH paper as opposed to RFC headed notepaper or letters.

I am told that if Whyte being secured on Ibrox and/or other assets was seen as part of a scheme to evade tax then, they could ask a court to set it aside. But that seems unlikely as it is" a perfectly normal arrangement". People go to jail for evasion, any sale proved to have been for that purpose could be referred and set aside. Murray would then also be in trouble maybe in a perverse way there will be justice after all. On a brighter note the soapdodgers are no great shakes, poor as we were and robbed of a goal they inflicted only the one goal on us which was a poor goal to lose, McGregor should have done better rather than be rooted to his line. We can still take the title I think we will.

I make no comment, merely passing on the story. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/european/weir_set_to_make_return_in_old_firm_clash_as_rangers_count_cost_of_shock_defeat_1_2024787

All I see is the uncertainty of the beautiful game in all it's glory, if certainty and lack of controversy was my bag football is the last place I would be looking, sterility tends to be the death knell of many things. PS I never mentioned paranoia in the post.

Maybe we just get the refs that our very poor level of league is akin to, all the alleged conspiracies never stopped the mhanks winning nine in a row they conveniently forget that. Conspiracy theories are just excuses for self made problems of the expounder of said theories, leave it to the mhanks, shows a distinct lack of class on their part.

Paranoia is a favourite dish of timmy, we do not partake of that particular dish, Leggo should leave us out of any of that nonsense, class will always out. Form is temporary class is permanent.

just saw the celtic game they are no great shakes and if the truth be told Killie deserved at least a draw and maybe more, the mhanks defence is appalling if Ally doesn't exploit that weakness questions will be asked.

I note you chose not to contradict the incontrovertible, "just to reiterate he is ours and the SPL's all time goal scorer, maybe you would like to join your ally in contradicting the incontrovertible" one bubble you can't burst at least it's a start on respecting a fine former Rangers player and goal scorer.

I never said you disparaged Boyd, only a malcontent would disparage the record scorer, you will have to figure your own post out and what constitutes a malcontent, here's a hint some appear to be discontent with stories around Boyd, me I couldn't be happier. We are after all champions and four clear in the defence of our crown.

Our signing and scouting strategy needs a serious looking into, of course that would suggest we have one, which I must admit I have my doubts about.

"Dry your eyes" mud slinging ? seem people have very very thin skins, the retort as you crudely put it was in general to the incessant derogatory remarks on and about Boyd, maybe his goals didn't mean as much to you as they do to me and countless others.