the gunslinger

if he retains shares.

do you really think the consortium has shares already? enough to talk about 85% being part.

I off course am pro tbk.

not everyone who has questions for green supports tbk. some are rightly critical of tbk as well. people need to try to be objective. having to pay green back his investment out of club funds is not a good thing for example. he also lied about being debt free. pretending otherwise is daft.

good news. never really thought this was greens plan. though he is taking them as security against his loan.

he's claiming it from the buyers I thought. perhaps I misread.

he does say he would reinvest any claim.

only one way to read it.

spot on zappa. a payout is unpalatable part of your season book cash going to pay back debts to whyte. no chance.

jjb may have protection from that in the deal. infact they will.

I know season book holders who won't renew if whyte remains. players can also go. its a big deal. let's hope its another lie or a misquote. perhaps the rfff can ask so the 5 or so of them can find out.

whytes quote clearly shows he will have shared and be party of the consortium. now he may be misspeaking. but what he says states he is part of the consortium. the wort part is key. whether he is part of it may remain open to question but he's saying there he is. the other bit about the 85% is not a quote. clarification very much required here. especially with king saying the same.

where's that from and is it a quote?

do hes keeping a few fans informed. that's ok then.

what was said by green to make king think he's a disaster?

my view on miller has changed a lot. I don't think he's behind green or such just that he agreed to sell his shares very easily. I suspect he's getting the 20% he asked tbk for.

what's this all about?

masivly interesting stuff. I agree with king tneres no way whytes not part of greens consortium.

the name choices are also poor. this is a vote going out with season books its not being set up on the spot. we have had dozens of better players than cooper and why just Moses from the gallant pioneers.

if tbk had talked about renaming mp while lying about various issues and seeming to struggle for funding. many would rightly call it a smoke screen.

might as well put this in here its pretty much a rehash anyway. David Leggat - giving it to you straight Previous Posts CHARLES GREEN'S ACHILLES HEEL CRAFTY LLOYDS FAIL TO ANSWER MUIR AND FULLERTON QU... REGAN, THE SFA AND THE THREAT TO LEE McCULLOCH WHY RANGERS CANNOT BE KICKED OUT OF SFA BATTLE WEARY RANGERS FANS NEED AN ICONIC LEADER GREEN WANTS RANGERS FANS TO PAY WHYTE'S DEBTS SFA AND REGAN SHOULD BEWARE CONTEMPT OF COURT CHAR... RANGERS CROWN JEWELS NOW IN DANGER - Exclusive CELTIC'S DAVID LOW CONFIRMS LINK TO CHARLES GREEN LLOYDS ACCUSED AGAIN - Exclusive Subscribe to Posts [Atom] Thursday, 7 June 2012 GREEN'S NAME GAME IS PATHETIC STUNT CHARLES GREEN is running scared of Rangers supporters. And that is why they should view any promises he makes to them with deep suspicion. His latest cheap and pathetic populist stunt about the renaming of the club's training complex in Milngavie merely served to underline just how scared Charles Green is. And just how desperate he is to get his hands on the fans' money. For supporters should take special note of the fact Green will only allow them a vote in re-naming the Milngavie training headquarters if they buy a season ticket. In fact, right now Charles Green is begging those fans to buy season tickets. He is on his knees. Which, as anyone who knows Rangers supporters could tell him, is not a posture they find much favour with. It also won't do his suit trousers much good. And Green appears to have only the one suit. But the serious message is that Rangers supporters should believe none of Charles Green's obvious snake oil salesman patter. They should believe no glib promises from Charles Green. Everything he says, everything Charles Green promises them, should be legally certified by Rangers supporters. After all, Charles Green is a noted and proven liar. Witness the 20 worldwide investors who never were. Witness the £20M he said he had available for Rangers, of which there is no sign. Witness the pledge that Charles Green promised Rangers will emerge from administration, debt free. Witness the fact is that Rangers will owe Charles Green £13.5M. All of the above are pretty good, pretty sound, pretty solid and pretty sensible reasons for taking every promise and pledge Charles Green makes to Rangers fans, with a very large pinch of salt. In fact, all of Charles Green’s snake oil salesman patter should be taken with enough salt to fill a mine in Siberia. Right now, Charles Green will promise Rangers supporters the earth. For right now Charles Green is a desperate man who sees his credibility taking hit after hit after hit. If a warship took as many hits it would be down in Davy Jones’ Locker. But Charles Green remains afloat. Though only just. What Charles Green has been trying to do since the day he conned his way into Ibrox with the backing of under investigation administrators, Duff and Phelps, is create confidence in his scheme. He needs that confidence to attract investors. And that is what he is trying to do, with the help of self confessed unreconstructed Celtic supporter David Low. But he is failing. Despite his plaintive plea to Douglas Park, after Green's first meeting with David Low, multi millionaire travel tycoon, Park, as shrewd a businessman as there is in Scotland, met Charles Green three times, but refused to give him any money. For the simple reason that Douglas Park is not sold on Charles Green's snake oil salesman patter. No news is about to break soon of another even wealthier businessman who has had the begging bowl put under his nose by Charles Green, but who won’t be giving the Yorkshireman one brass farthing. For there is no confidence in Charles Green’s scheme among the real money men. Now, his secretive ways, added to the fact he is now a proven liar, see him at odds with Rangers supporters over the issue of £16M worth of season ticket money which he is keen to get his hands on. All of this makes Charles Green radioactive to the money men. Never mind him attracting new investors, the ones he claims he has, will soon start falling like flies. He will have told whoever it is who has pledged the £8.3M which he says is available, that he will attract new investors. He will have promised them that he will bring in more money. But there’s no sign of any new investors. No sign of any more money. And that is sure to lead to the mysterious backers who pledged the £8.3M, to start asking what is happening. To start asking Charles Green where their money is going. Before pulling their money out of Charles Green’s scheme So far, by a shrewd businessman’s reading of the way events are unfolding, Charles Green has had £1.2M invested. Now, if there is a problem with Charles Green’s plans to get his hands on the £16M season ticket money from ordinary rank and file Rangers supporters, those investors will cut and run. For there will be no point in Charles Green scrapping the CVA and going for liquidation just to get his hands on Ibrox Stadium, the Albion Car Park and the training complex at Milngavie and then transferring ownership of the Crown Jewels from Rangers FC to Green’s Sevco company. Which many believe was his plan all along. For Charles Green has been rumbled! Leaving Charles Green with no option but to liquidate his Sevco company which he set up and registered as the vehicle for the Rangers deal. Which, in turn, would leave under investigation administrators, Duff and Phelps having to start all over again. Duff and Phelps, though, must surely have a fallback position already in place. Duff and Phelps must surely have a Plan B. I believe under investigation administrators Duff and Phelps do have a fallback position. Do have a Plan B. And it will be to try and get Bill Ng interested in Rangers again. No wonder Charles Green is running scared of Rangers supporters. And if all of that happens, Duff and Phelps better start running too. ....... AND....... DESPITE the best efforts of Daily Record editor Alan Rennie, his Sun countrerpart, Andy Harries, and BBC Scotland's all powerful Diarmid O'Hara, the story about Stewart Regan and the hang Lee McCulloch Tweet will not be buried. Scottish Football Association chief executive, Regan, looked under pressure and uncomfortable when he was forced to answer questions about it at the SFA's AGM broadcast press conference. Sky Sports News presented a picture which was beamed throughout Great Britain and beyond of an erratic and unimpressive Regan trying to answer why he made a Tweet about hanging Rangers and Scotland star Lee McCulloch one of his favourites and left it on his official SFA Twitter account for more than four months. Scottish Television too showed Regan on the rack during their Scotland Today flagship programme. BBC Scotland and it's flagship, Reporting Scotland ignored the issue. No surprise there, as the news output on BBC Scotland television is in the vice like grip of a member of the Celtic family, Diarmid O'Hara. And no surprise either that Celtic man O'Hara's lapdog of a poodle Chris "Scrote" McLaughlin, chose to angle his report on SFA President Campbell Ogilvie and EBTs. Ogilvie is a man of honour and is totally innocent. Not that you would think it watching the way BBC Scotland's Chris Scrote went after him. Of course, rabid Celtic fan, Chris Scrote knows that with Diarmid O'Hara in charge at BBC Scotland, he is on safe ground. And Diarmid O'Hara is equally well aware that as a senior BBC man he is beyond censure. That is not, however, the case with the Sun and the Daily Record and their editors, Andy Harries and Alan Rennie, who are subject to commercial pressures and answerable to shareholders. The Stewart Regan story about the threat to hang Rangers and Scotland star, Lee McCulloch will not be going away. I forecast on Monday that there would be more twists and turns in the tale and that Stewart Regan is a long way from being off the hook. The Sky Sports News and STV broadcasts were just the start of that prediction coming true. The next move will be for someone to ask Stewart Regan why, if he thought he had done nothing wrong, he telephoned Lee McCulloch to apologise? posted by leggoland @ 07:34

can't agree. celtc strength is in their top brass speaking out about this kind of thing. we must follow suit.

rangers must speak out about this or it will die.

celtc fans crave success rangers fans demand it.

I am afraid that's wishful thinking the courts have no say in it.