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Im going to be the 3rd person to agree fully on this thread. The quality of our team is well below expectations and this goes back to last season. People are stating its only pre season but our level of performances have been awful. Yet we'll go back to playing in the SPL and beating terrible teams like Kilmarnock, St Mirren etc etc and everyone will think everything is rosey in the garden. The options we have in midfield are terrible. Losing Barry Ferguson is a blow but in hindsight its a wake up call to the fact we need some better players in and cant (and shouldnt) have to rely in 1 player. I cant get my head round signing strikers without letting them go rather than bringing in midfielders. Id much rather have went for Varynen, Davis and Lovenkrands aswell as Madjid at the back. Those first 3 players would have given us something much different when going forward. EDIT: And for those who think stating the facts are wrong (being negative), please tell us who you expect to come into the team and start creating things for us. I know we have until the end of the month to sign a midfielder but by Tuesday it could all be to late in Europe, I bet quite a few are not totally confident about Tuesdays 2nd leg. WS should have sorted out the midfield in July.

The guy Burton OBrien seems to rate him and says he is capable of mazey runs from the back - thats our creative man probably sorted!! Anyone bought him in FM??? I get a good feeling about this signing though. I do think we'll see him in midfield a few times but it would be fantastic to see him make a partnership with Cuellar. That would leave Weir out and the need for another captain though. Maybe we will be going 3-5-2 after all!!! We've nothing to worry about at the back, we have: King Carlos, Captain Kirk, The Warrior.....Prince Papac?????....And of course The Shagger!

Lollipops and Cherryade I hope!!! As Pete says it is gash that its only available to UK viewers online. BBC

I see the sentiments also but first and foremost we are entitled to our negative opinions due to whats going on around. The team are screaming for a midfielder yet the manager buys strikers and defenders so it a natural reaction for fans to question this. On the park there hasnt been much to shout about early on (albeit after 4 friendlies and 1 competitive match) so once again people are naturally questioning the outlook. Off the park some big promises have been made and nothing has been announced, yet this goes hand in hand with amatuer things like people not getting tickets to get into the ground for kick off in our first big match of the season - Sorry but if anyone can be positive about that then I'll have some of what they are having.

Once Curbishley gets the boot and a big name manager comes in then we'll be up there. The thing is Curbs has 6 games to save his job plus he will know he HAS to get them up the league. I was concerned a few weeks back but im begining to turn the corner on them, I think they will be top 10 as we have a decent fixture list early on.

Superb draw if we get past Kaunas. TBH Kaunas are probably a better outfit than Aalborg.

Not sure about Blackburn TBH. Without Hughes they wont be as stubborn. I can Man City being in there and probably West Ham. I fancy Posrtmouth to be the surprise top 6 side. Harry is doing wonders down there.

Keane is a loss but rumours are Ashavin is on his way here!!! Decent signings from Mowbray. CL, here we come!!! I hope they sort there pitch first

I expect a few more signings. They just lack the stadium, but very impressive ambitions from Harry. Spent a bit but will still struggle Are you Tottenham in disguise!!! Some good signings though

Keane is the star signing so far but to challenge they need another 2 signings on par with this. I think they are far from finished shopping and will be stronger. Interestingly quiet from OT, but they dont need anyone. They lost a good keeper there, and havent added in numbers.

Down in numbers but still a huge squad and i expect more activity before 31st August. 2 quality signings though. Busy summer at Goodison then!!! Few good sigings Wee bit of EPL experience in but will still struggle

This will be interesting to see who looks improved more. They still lack a world class player IMO. If they hold onto Barry then they will be stronger, but they are still low in numbers. Will be interested to see how Ince does. Didnt know they signed Elmander, but they need more.

And the crazy amount of fixtures just keeps on coming!!! 1st - Liverpool (H) - Friendly 5th - FBK Kaunas (A) - CL qualifier 9th - Falkirk (A) - SPL 13th - Potential QL 3rd qualifier 16th - Hearts (H) - SPL 23rd - Aberdeen (A) - SPL 27th - Potential CL 3rd qualifier 31st - Celtic (A) - SPL

If Loovens is still a target then i would seem the bad news about Carlos being sold would be true. Again this would be another club decision for the money the same as Hutton as Cuellar come out and said he is happy to stay. I hope Ian is right that WS isnt finished in bringing players in, but my worry is qualifying for the CL and deadlines etc.

I'll have a bit of that once we sign 3 midfielders

Novo and Velicka would have been an interesting partnership.

Welcome to the club Madjid. Looks a decent defender but as someone said Sheff Wed and Charlton!! This one has certainly sprang out of nowhere. But if he and Carlos are first choice Im baffled as to what Dailly, Webster, Weir, Broadfoot and even Hemdani are doing there. With our squad you'd think the opposition goal was the half way line!! We have nothing in the attacking midfield sense.

I was at the game and IIRC it was pissing down before hand and my bus parked MILES from Ibrox. I had to drink a bottle of Merrydown cider on the way there to keep me warm

2 hours before kick off????!!!! What happens for people coming from a few hours drive away who get delayed in traffic or people who work until 5:30pm...etc etc

As Arnold says a thread on Murray and the other wrong things at RFC could go on all day. But its the small simple issues that should be addressed first like having a port-a-cabin for a ticket office with a support our size - its ridiculous. Ibrox is still a great place to go but it could be done with a few modern touch ups. The Govan, Broomloan and Copland are all 25 years old now and you get the feeling they are that age at times. If we got a new super stadium then great but giving Ibrox a bit of a facelift and rennovated plus ripping out the screens would be fine also.

Preciseley why we needed him on wed night, he would have probably conjoured (sp) something up from nothing in a big game when we needed it. Would you rather Adam, Dailly and McCulloch in that team, no of whom bring any forward edge to the team??

Velicka would have been the obvious choice for me. He impressed in pre season and is way ahead of everyone on fitness and sharpness.

I hope we get Inter Baku. Been there loads of times and as much as a tricky place to go the standard isnt great at all.

I think the fact that they are more flair players and would ten to be further up the park plays against them. WS goes out to not lose a game rather than try to win it.

Thats what ive been saying all summer. Id have been delighted with Davis, Varynen and Lovenkrands as all were afordable and bring excitement to the team. Instead we are so flat with what we have at the moment. Another baffling one last night was Hemdani not playing.