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Yip agree with that. When players disrespect the officials with foul mouth language then straight reds should be given. I suppose the refs are only doing what they are told/taught but the start/stopping of games and always given decisions the wrong way is at a poor level

Erm...im all for given them a pay rise if they earned it, but last season was the worst ive ever seen from SPL refs.

Give me Maloney over Adam anyday. Thats probably who he would replace. I dont buy this Adam is our dead ball specialist.

Maybe 2 big strikers plus Novo to run onto the flick ons maybe the best way to go. We know Nacho has the nack of nicking important goals

I go jogging almost every day but I still eat chocolate most days, have fast food once or twice a week and the odd weekend booze up - as Im not in a job that requires me to be an athelete

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Ive got a club tie from years and years ago still in its plastic wrapping. I was given it when I was about 9 from a family friend from Glasgow who has lived in Canada for 35 years, so it could actually be from any decade. Ive never wore it. Next time im home il look it out and try find out when its from.

I see you havent been signing any strikers in the transfer window Fraser!!!

I cant believe we would look at another left sided player before a right sided player

But qualifying for the CL is well over by the end of the transfer window and what if its too late??? Id say its more naive of WS to fix or not even address the midfield problem last out of the 3 outfield positions, while Ferguson was injured and after the CL qualifier.

LMAO The QE2 could turn faster than what I saw Boyd attempt on Saturday.

The comments about McCulloch and Darcheville were actually quite amuzing. I agree with him on Hemdani, he is always assured on the ball and should be a starter IMO. Agreed on Adam 100%, he is attrotious (sp). Disagree on Broadfoot, he should be a back up defender. And disagree on Boyd. I cringed near the end of the game when Boyd had a half chance in the box, his turn was embarrassingly slow and his arms were flapping. He is about a mobile as a hippo.

I would really like to see the club record a new sound track of the songs they play over the tannoy before the game and at half time. The CD they have is done by the worst high pitched singers and almost gives you a head ache more than anything else. Its not catchy one bit.

Good stuff Fraser. I noticed LIverpool had a decent crown up and I think thats always good to see at Ibrox. Pity none of the other SPL clubs could take a similar crowd, it would help get the atmosphere up.

I think all fans know its only pre season and nothing gets decided here. But the frustration is coming from the fact Ferguson got injured yet no midfielders have been brought in despite the need for 1 or 2 before Ferguson got injured. Add the addition of the strikers and then the concentration of buying a defender the fans are scratching our heads about how we are going to line up next season.

I was watching this game, it was 1-0 for ages, didnt know Hamburg scored 2 more.

Both would be welcome signings IMO. Fletcher solves the RM problem and Maloney can play anywhere across the midfield including the creative link between midfield and forward. I heard Everton to bid 3 million for Fletcher. If we can pay 3.5 for Lafferty we surely could raise 3 million for Fletcher. Hopefully Sir Awex sends him up seen as he is good pals with WS. He is a very decent player but a bit out of his depth at Man Utd. He does well for Scotland but would be a great addition to our squad.

Chelsea pumped a team 7-0 the other day. I think Chinese team.

I think we share the concerns based on the lack of improvement over the summer but id say its a bit much of a knee jerk reaction to rid Smith at the moment. As ive said a few times he should be judged on this season. If he doesnt deliver the title this season then its time to move on. Im a huge fan of Super Ally but I wonder how much WS is missing an experienced No.2 as his assissant.

Yip spot on with your reply Cammy and I picked this bit out. We should have a set up of people selling the club worldwide. Rangers have a huge support all over yet seeing the Rangers brand anywhere other than in Scotland is almost non exsistant. The scouting set up is another poorly ran aspect, and something I should maybe have mentioned in my first post. I was listening to a Steve McLaren interview this morning, he was asked if he was going to raid England for players. But his reply was no because FC Twente cant compete with the Premier League stars (same as Rangers) so Twente and his network are set up in Holland, Belgium, Germany and Scandanavia to locate players. If only we could wake up and do the same.

We should still aim to finish in the top 3 of our group which puts us in at least the UEFA again.

There are a few issues spliting the fans at the moment. Some are calling it a negative attitude yet some call it plain facts. The season has not even kicked off yet but this far we have looked very untidy in pre season and in our first competitive game of the season. On Tuesday we have a huge match against Kaunas to make it into the final qualifying round of the hugely important Champions League. I'm going to try and elaborate on a few topics that the fans have issues with. 1) Summers Signings In / Out: Plenty eyebrows have been raised because WS brough in 3 strikers and then concentrated on the defence when the midfield is the most obvious position needing filled. We have forked out near on 10 million on 4 players for upfront and defence yet we are reluctant to spend a penny on the midfield. We have recouped a small fee for Buffel and Sebo thus far. I still question the Buffel sale when all we needed to do was pay a fee of approx 400k which makes more sense than paying 3-4 million for another player of this type. Its ok bringing in strikers but so far none of the current forwards have left the club leaving us with a large forward line. There is still 28 days left of the transfer window so in no way can this topic be concluded yet although its imperative we sign some midfield players soon. 2) Style of football: Last season this was brought up on many occasions. Some want to see total football yet others are perfectly happy with a grinding 1-0 win as its winning that matters at the end of the day. For me a bit of both would be better. I dont expect 5-0 thumpings of teams every week with playing out of our skins, but with the level of SPL opposition we really should be seeing off teams by 3 or 4 goals on a more regular basis. Going away from home to the tougher teams is when we should be happy to grind out 1-0 wins. Some put direct blame on Walter Smith, but for me the dead wood has been there before he arrived. In McLeish's latter days most of PLG's matches we were dreadful to watch at times. Walter Smith hasnt changed much other than the fact we are very difficult to score against. Basically Walter sets out not to lose a match rather than win it. I think we are bit away from knowing our first choice XI and I actually think WS doesnt have that. He prefers to have maybe 14 players who will be shifted around in a few positions every week. 3) Loyality to players: Fans will never agree on team selection and we dont have any right to have a say in team selection - thats what the manager lifes and dies by, but we are certainly in our right to an opinion and currently a number on here picked out the Walter is very loyal to certain players. He was like this in his first reign also. You have to wonder is he happy to play safe or just to afraid to change things. Maybe its personality clashes with other players like the rumours suggest. But IMO that shouldnt come into, if a player is good enough he should be given a chance. Im not afraid to name names, but the likes of Broadfoot, Adam, Burke and Boyd will never be good enough for Rangers and having average run of the mill SPL players is a huge reason behind our lack of championships this decade. Johnny Foreigner doesnt hide from this aswell, we have had too many guys picking up a nice wage packet and not doing it on the park. 4) The threat of going Backwards: Despite last seasons run on all fronts where winning and not was a thin line, we are on the threat of moving backwards. The squad may look stronger in numbers than last year but the starting XI doesnt. I was hoping for 3 or 4 players who would come in and be definate starters but so far it seems our signings are no better than what we have. Add that to the fact if the unthinkable happens on Tuesday and we dont make the CL then we are in for a long season with not much incommings. Nothing has been decided yet and the season hasnt kicked off but the concern is there. 5) Board level: The main 2 issues here is the stadium and the lack of a ticket office at the club. Ibrox: Its still a fantastic arena but at 25+ years old the Copland, Govan and Broomloan are feeling a bit dated. When your inside them they feel it aswell compared to when you visit a modern new stadium. The rumours are for a super complex to be built, that would be fantastic but I for one wouldnt mind Ibrox just getting modernized and not to any great length. The insides of the stands could be developed along with the screens being taken out and replaced by seats bring the capacity up to near 60,000. It the roofs of those 3 stands could be raised a little and say 10 rows added then that would be fantastic also. Ticket Office: I find this embarrassing. A club who gets 50,000 people at every home match does not have a ticket office. I remember the mid 90s in my teens before I had a season ticket Id go along to Ibrox regularly and at times picked up tickets from the old ticket office across from the Copland stand. I would be in and out of the que within 5 minutes. Now we have a shed with 2 ladies handing out envelopes to 1000s of people and causing fans to miss there first competitve kick off of the season - horrendous stuff!! I can only say - Bring Back the ticket office!!! Feel free to add the other issues at the moment and as Gersnet always does we will debate them openly and maturely.

It only seems like yesterday I asked this question before the start of last season. IIRC my answers then were: SPL: to be challenging for the SPL during the split rather that out of it by Halloween. Scottish Cup: To win it as we hadn't since 2003 League Cup: At least the final Europe: Still in Europe after Christmas So going by that the team met my expectations. I was pretty realistic one year ago due to Walter coming in only 7 months prior and steadying the ship very well. That was stage 1 IMO and stage 2 was to get us back on the map challenging on all domestic fronts. Stage 2 gets a big tick which included a fantastic run to the UEFA cup final. We will probably look back in a few years and realise then how good that was. But I'm not going to dwell on last seasons postives and negatives, we've discussed that plentyful since May. For me stage 3 was always going to be the 08/09 season. And the target expectations for this season is hands down to win the SPL. We cant allow Celtic - an average Celtic at that - to go on an win the title 4 times in a row and 8 times since the turn of the millennium. So on four fronts: SPL: Champions Scottish Cup: Winners League Cup: At least the final Europe: Qualify for CL and still be in any european comp after Christmas I expect a lot of realistic fans to expect pretty much the same as myself.

Im going to be the 3rd person to agree fully on this thread. The quality of our team is well below expectations and this goes back to last season. People are stating its only pre season but our level of performances have been awful. Yet we'll go back to playing in the SPL and beating terrible teams like Kilmarnock, St Mirren etc etc and everyone will think everything is rosey in the garden. The options we have in midfield are terrible. Losing Barry Ferguson is a blow but in hindsight its a wake up call to the fact we need some better players in and cant (and shouldnt) have to rely in 1 player. I cant get my head round signing strikers without letting them go rather than bringing in midfielders. Id much rather have went for Varynen, Davis and Lovenkrands aswell as Madjid at the back. Those first 3 players would have given us something much different when going forward. EDIT: And for those who think stating the facts are wrong (being negative), please tell us who you expect to come into the team and start creating things for us. I know we have until the end of the month to sign a midfielder but by Tuesday it could all be to late in Europe, I bet quite a few are not totally confident about Tuesdays 2nd leg. WS should have sorted out the midfield in July.

The guy Burton OBrien seems to rate him and says he is capable of mazey runs from the back - thats our creative man probably sorted!! Anyone bought him in FM??? I get a good feeling about this signing though. I do think we'll see him in midfield a few times but it would be fantastic to see him make a partnership with Cuellar. That would leave Weir out and the need for another captain though. Maybe we will be going 3-5-2 after all!!! We've nothing to worry about at the back, we have: King Carlos, Captain Kirk, The Warrior.....Prince Papac?????....And of course The Shagger!