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I have to say stick what we have. Sometimes less is more and trimmimg the squad with Hemdani, Dailly, Ferguson, Adam and Smith away reduces the wage bill and is easier for WS to maintain. We still have a decent size squad once everyone is fit. It really depends on how the younger and fringe players come on. We need Aaron, Naismith and Fleck to advance this season. The likes of Beasley and McCulloch must improve but could still be important squad players. BTW is Gow still with us or did he move on? So the basis of the squad when everyone is fit will be: Keepers: Mcgregor Alexander Defenders: Bougherra Weir Broadfoot Papac Whittaker New?? Webster (on loan, can we recall?) Midfield: Thomson Edu Mendes Davis McCulloch (also roles all over the park) Beasley Aaron Naismith (also forward) Forwards: Lafferty Miller Boyd Fleck (also wide roles) Novo (also wide roles) Looking at that we are light at full back cover. We have numbers at centre half when everyones fit but only Bougherra gives me top confidence. i cant see Weir managing 30+ games. 2 keepers should be enough but you do need a 3rd keeper just incase. A older keeper just for cover could be what we need until we get a good youngster.

Id say we need right mid filled. Davis has been there out of position and Novo would probably be our other option there. If we go 4-4-2 then we need to decide who will be first pick on each side and stick with them. For too long we have had chopping and changed - especially on the left. Personally I think 4-3-3 could be the current answer and we put Thomson, Mendes and Davis in the midfield.

Then Gareth Barry on the left?? Bellamy is the one he is going to have to keep quiet, he will mump if he isnt playing regularly.

And they still own Jo who is on loan at Everton, and Everton wont pay 18 million that City paid for him as they dont have that cash. Robinho will play as a winger. But Im wondering what formation they will play next season.

Agreed, not near the team id pick! Even Ricksen being picked ahead of Hutton!?! Only Larsson and Ferguson would make my team from that pick. Gordon was good at Hearts but not a patch on Klos. Lennon and Ferguson together in the midfield would be strong though but Lennon still doesnt make it.

Man City fans put a banner up in the city centre saying Welcome to Manchester

I said the exact on another thread. With Celtic its a win win situation. If they win then its good for Scottish football (although I draw the line at them from around the last 16 / 8 of a competition) and if they lose then its great as we like to see them get beat.

I think this is true to an extent and i think the reason is we expect great things from the foreigners. I think it is fair to say players from the continent are technically better and overall fitter and healthier so we get this impression that foreigners are going to be stars. But it isnt always the case when coming to play in the Scottish Game. Legends: Then you have to say who decides who is a legend for YOU! I think every fan is entitled to have their own list of legend, if the club do or do not put them in the 'official' club hall of fame or other fans have different opinions then thats doesnt make that player and more / less of a legend for that fan. we have many threads naming bext XI or next starting XI, perhaps we need a thread 'your legends'.

The return of the wasp! We last saw that over 10 years ago when Di Canio played for them.

Sounds good. The tight sleeves and shoulders in recent seasons has been a bit uncomfortable especially in the heat. Thats one of the reasons I would prefer to get away from Umbro. Was planning on buying it in Sept when over but Im wondering where the hell il be able to buy it if its only out in 1 shop at the moment

Thats fine, thats what makes expression of an opinion a great thing. As a Rangers career and his record count - its fantastic. And I still remember arguing about how good he was in his earlier days. I remember watching a UEFA cup match against Bayern Levenkusen while in Majorca in 1998 and couldnt believe what a talent we had. But he still isnt a true legend for me What I will say is my opinion could change on that with time and hindsight. Perhaps we could go down hill and in 5-10 years time I could be saying I wish we had a Ferguson in the team. It could go the opposite way and may also have forgetten about him - hopefully so as that means the Team have gone onto better things. But this season coming will be interesting to see how morale is with the rest of the squad.

Anyone on here bought the new top yet?? If so, hows the fit? (preferably an answer from the athletic guys on here ) Umbro have been a bit tight round the shoulders in recent season.

1) As i said, yes ive seen Keane slaughter players but cant recall him doing so when he was wrong. 2) No need to be a lip reader...his hand signals did that for him. And many on here remember the words "get him fucking off". I dont care who your team mate is, you dont do that in the middle of a match, that can wait until half time. 3) Yes maybe he has done it, but on plenty occassions there has been times where he has done the opposite. If your a captain you should know how your teammates will react. Some players will react well to a roasting, but some react the opposite way. Bullshit. A topic of his bad points simply developed on the thread. My overall thoughts on a player were on my first post in the thread if you care to read that. As i said - A truly fine player on his day who had 3/4 wonderful seasons from 1998 - 2003. From 2005-2009 he wasnt ever anything better than average. But a legend? Not for me! A legend has to be a top Pro on and off the park for me. Its a shame when some fans who think he is a legend automatically think the other fans who dont agree are simply remembering the bad points. And the thing about European performances doesnt make him a better player than J Greig etc simply because the format of matches in Europe these days.

Id have to disagree. Yes I agree Keane has slaughtered some team mates on the park but I would say he hadnt shouted at anyone when he was in the wrong, he would have held his hands up and applaued what they were trying to do. Im not saying Ferguson doesnt have winning mentality. Just that on occassion he got on the case of his own team mates at the wrong times and thats been discussed and agreed on here many a time. Sober up and stop looking for an argument

1) I never saw Keane moan at his team mates when he was in the wrong. 2) I never saw Keane tell Sir Alex to sub a player during a match. 3) I did see Keane put his arm round a player to give them confidence during a match. Keane demanded standards while Ferguson just demanded his own way.

Im scratching my head at that one!!

Gattuso left in the last millenium mate

Correct!

Pete, you know I havent been a big fergie fan over the last 3 or 4 years either but for me he had more than 1 good season. I thought he was brilliant under Advocaat while playing with Albertz, Gio and Co in the midfield from 98-00. And then he had a good season with De Boer and Arteta when he scored 17 goals. But he became far too much Mr Rangers in his own opinion which had a huge effect on the team and then there was the Le Guen stuff along with being handed the captaincy back amoungst other stuff. For the last 2 seasons you could count on 1 hand how many decent games he had yet he was still auto pick. On his day he was a fine Rangers player but certainly not a Legend on par with the likes of McCoist, Gough, Laudrup etc for me. And as a Rangers captain he was one of the worst for his moaning and off field stuff. Uncomparable to Gough.

Cant stand Spurs and Im disliking Redknapp more and more every season. But what do they need so many RB's for?!! They are off theirs heads to let Hutton go, he is by far the best they have. Id love Hutton back but if we dont get him then I really hope a decent club comes in for him as it would be a crime to see his talent wasted. I feel like emailing West Ham and telling them to go for him. That clown Lucas Neill has left so The Hammers need a RB.

What about bad team of the decade: __________________Letizi________________ I Murray_____Svensen_____McCulloch___Konterman Salenko_____Mlandovic_____Emerson____Capucho ______________Jeffers____Maniero__________ Salenko was class before and after he played for us though. I remember him in either WC 06 or Euro 08 and he was superb.

Yeah 3rd game in charge IIRC and it was his first point as manager.

Moscow could have a league on its own! How many teams do they need?!! There should be a tournament - Moscow teams v London teams, it would take up a season! Tough draw for Celtic though and Dinamo are in the middle of their season. Cant see Celtic getting past them TBH which means a bit more cash for us.

___________________Klos_________________ Hutton______Cuellar______Moore_____Numan _____Ferguson_____Arteta_______Albertz___ _________________De Boer_______________ ____________Prso_____Lovenkrands_______ Subs: McGregor Bougherra Amoruso McCann Arveladze Novo Mols

Just back from Indonesia yesterday and was due to go to Jakarta this month. The scary thing is I always stay at Marriott hotels! Im heading to KL tomorrow so I may bump into a few Man U players, the city centre is quite compressed there so if they are out and about they will be easy to see.