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Switzerland v Greece is a big game this weekend, they are 2nd and 1st in their group respectively so a defeat for either then to lose there next game would give us a chance. But I just looked at the groups and even if we win our last 2 we are still looking like the 9th best runner up.

BTW, what channel is this game on in UK?

Pretty much spot on except for the bit at the bottom, Im still hoping we qualify for the WC so this is a game I want to win 100%. My preference would be for us to win this game and somehow beat Holland and make the play-offs but I'd replace Burley and Butcher prior to the play-offs with Strachan or Souness. An assistant manager is a hugely important role and in Terry Butcher we have a proven fud at management level despite how good a defender he was.

There are tons of funny quotes but I just saw this just now and found it hilarious:

The SFA never fail to amaze me. We have a massive couple of game coming up and they publicly come out with this the day before the first game!!! Now they may be absolutely true but as head of the SFA these comments should be made no where near the weekend of such important game. It should be made after the fate is known. 99% of Scottish fans know Burley is out of his depth and will be out of a job if we dont qualify but this is just unprofessional and puts added pressure on the team ahead of the game. What a fringe Peat is! (not you Pete )

Yip 2 good points. I was going to elaborate a bit more on my earlier post but wanted to beat the traffic. My point was the likes of Baxter and Greig are RFC legends and rightly so. But it is unlikely that more than 1 or 2 poster on here who can remember them playing so they are unlikely to be legends / favourites in the eyes of the future generations but they remain club legends - thats all the history of the club. Each fan should make their own mind up else its just like religion and having to follow the previous generation. An interesting thread would be to see who everyone would have in there own personal list of favourties / legends to them. Agree RE Hendry. I thought he was the perfect signing and should have had a longer Gers career regardless if he came as a player around 32.

Thats the thing, everyone is entitled to have the OWN legends and the club can have its official list. Thats the benefit of opinion! Just because the club does or doesnt put someone in the HoF shouldnt take away what a certain player meant to the fan(s). If Fraser thinks Weir is a legend in HIS opinion then thats great. Gazza for me is legend.

Dietmar Hamann must be close enough to an age where he could secure a 4 year deal at Ibrox?????

Id take Volz or Lauren for RB. Lucas Neill is an imposter, he turned down a years deal at West Ham as he thought Sunderland were coming in for him but Steve Bruce realised 75k a week is laughable for such a bombscare.

Yip 1992 v Airdrie. He missed the 1993 cup final with a broken leg and he didnt play in the 5-1 win over Hearts in 96. He did play in 1998 against Hearts (and scored) but we got beat 2-1 that year. The other 2 finals we were involved in during Ally's time was the defeat to Dundee Utd in 1994 (which we should have won to be double treble winners - mix up at the back between Mary McPherson and Ally maxwell) and 1989 when we lost to the mhanks although we had a perfectly good goal chopped off 2 mins after they scored.

I hope your right Fraser, another play off would be great but we have to give Macedonia a bit of a thumping which I cant see then beat Holland which couldnt get much harder regardless if they play a weakened team. Dream scoreline against Macedonia would be 3-0 but IF we win I cant see it being more than 1 goal. Burley just doesnt have the players confident enough or the same mindset Walter or Eck had. Plus having Butcher and Pressley there is a liability IMO. Im not even sure 2 wins would put us in the place off's, I can see us being the 9th best runner up then missing out which is a bit of a shite rule but we knew the score before a ball was kicked. If this is to be Burleys last couple of matches i hope we see our strongest available team go at full pelt and go for the win. Having Hutton back is a huge bonus from an attacking point of view. It means we can have the likes of Flecther, Brown and Hartley in the middle and get width from Hutton, Maloney and McFadden.

You may have a point, if he plays as consistant as he has done so far and we win the league then at the end of the season we could judge. At the moment its still a no for me but who knows - 2 titles in 2 seasons plus another cup may put him on the way.!!

Have to applaud you for your committment to Scotland Fraser. There are many bears who dont give a toss about Scotland probably because International football is perceived as boring. The thought of international weekend is boring but when it comes around it ends up not being that bad. When I lived over there I used to always be up for going to Scotland games with my mates who supported Aberdeen but typically none of them wanted to go.

As Norris says, he conducts himself as high as a Pro should. I would say its more tricky for a defender to become a legend than a goalscorer or a midfield who are easily hero's with goals. If we had him for nearer 5 years and he played to the same level then he would probably be in with a shout. Gazza was a different level Fraser, he wasnt far from being one of the best in the world at his peak. He would score world class goals out of nothing about 15 times a season. Gazza is more than a Rangers legend, he is a legend in England and probably the light blue half of Rome.

Legend might be a bit strong but he certainly wins everyones admiration. Its a pity we never signed him 10 years ago when he left Hearts. He managed to stroll the EPL for a number of years without being over glamorous or a star. Nobody would grudge the man another title or few cups and he would deserve it for a great career. It great to see him get recalled to the Scotland line up for this weeks games. If we overcome the odds and qualify for the WC next summer it would be a fantastic way for Weir to end his career at the WC. And if we do qualify it would be a crime if he didnt get to go should he not be injured. He should certainly be considered for a defensive coach at Murray pk once he hangs up his boots.

Ridiculous amount, even the Championship games can be on if its decent match, but it can all be on at silly times though especially the champions league. Maybe I'll send a ladyboy over to you to unvirgin you ya wee shite

Considering i live here I can vouch that this is pretty much true except it goes further, the majority only really care about Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal. Chelsea are getting more popular though and Man City are getting quite a bit of media coverage now. They do love the EPL and the amount of TV coverage out here is 2nd to none - every EPL game is on live but if you go to pubs you will only get to see the big 4. La Liga and Serie A is on the up due to the coverage now also. Only recently have they started put these leagues been on TV and la Liga are beginning to benefit - or maybe barca and Real. The German, Dutch and SPL are all covered also but there is little interest.

Cammy said Lovenkrands was willing to take a pay cut of 3k a week.

He looks like Ian Durrant 15 years ago.

I agree. Sometimes less is more and by trimming the squad down to around 20 but keeping the key players means the squad can be managed a lot easier from a player side plus a morale side. There will be less players with gloom faces at not playing and a smaller squad makes a tighter unit. Looking forward to seeing Rothen play, he could be the missing piece of the puzzle on that left. We have good options now for 4-4-2 and 4-3-3. If we go 4-4-2 Id like to see Rothen down the left and Novo down the right with 2 from Thomson, Davis and Mendes in the centre. Although no doubt Davis will be switched back out to the right, which isnt that bad but he is better inside right.

Id like to see Hutton move elsewhere and get first team football, he is too good a talent to sit on the bench. He has played in Spurs last 2 games though so hopefully he gets a good run in the team.

Bit bizarre how he was on loan there and left but then gets a 3 year deal. Id have liked to seen him back at Ibrox, big game player.

Yip agreed, if we dont win then Burley has to be punted before the Holland game. I saw the squad the other day and couldnt believe we only had 3 or 4 midfielders. We could be done with Barry Ferguson! I hope D Fletcher can get himself about like he does for Man U but I wouldnt bet on it. Having Hutton back is a huge bonus. Our best attacker! __________________Gordon_________________ Hutton______McManus______Weir_____Whittaker Brown_______Fletcher_____Hartley_____Maloney _____________Miller_______McFadden_________

It would also depend how much extra cash qualifying for the last 16 would bring. We have a realistic chance of that this year so keeping Mendes to help us do that could be worth it then sell him in January.

Maybe with bookings