Gribz

Agreed, their fate is in their own hands. Id rather meet them again in a few years in Div 1 or SPL and avoid their grounds.

Whats the average ticket cost in Div 3 and 1?

They are so badly organised it wouldnt surprise me if they couldnt make a decision and the SPL has 11 clubs next season, or Club 12 exists but no match takes place and each team gets awarded a 3-0 win.

I agree, a full boycott makes the statement (although Id feel a bit sorry for Ross County). When we return to the SPL we should be selling seperate "season 'away' tickets" for entry to Ibrox and watch all our away games being screened back to Ibrox. Or charge a fiver per entry.

I wonder how many attempts it would take them to spell a banner correctly with the word intergrity in it. They will have about 1 interesting game per season now, away to Hearts.

I see what you are saying but for me its who ever is in control of the club that should be making stronger statements. Yes they have had hands tied but we shouldnt have allowed other clubs so much power. If we dont speak up we'll end up being the enemy regardless. Blamed if we play SPL, blamed if we play Div 1 then blamed again in Div 3 because the investment disappearing. From day 1 we should have went straight to Div 3 and start preparing for the season.

I would agree with you mate on first point if it was the old club being relegated but a newco should apply and work their way up. If we applied for England and got accepted we wouldnt be able to walk into the Championship. The people running scottish football have been in an embarrassing state for over a decade now anyway. The decline started long before our episode, but its taken this to almost finish it off. People blame Sky and yes the money thing has created a gap between Scotland and England which is where we used to try measure the Old Firm against, but if we had stuck to keeping our own league and game in order we'd not be in the state we are in. There are leagues all over Europe who dont get good TV money yet have a good standard of football. I look at countries in Scandanavia and see them playing summer football plus now having teams who can beat the OF. Then I look at former Yugoslavian countries who were only created less than 2 decades ago yet Croatia and Serbia are far more technical than us and produce better national sides by a mile.

England above Italy, a side who absolutely battered them 0-0 last week. But even more laughable they are above Brazil and Argentina. Just shows what nonsense these rankings are at times. They can be useful to see improvements like when Berti Vogts took us to about 70th then Walter came in and put us right up to 17th or thereabouts, but the accuracy has to be way off in exact places. Spain, Germany, Uruguay, Portugal, Italy, Argentina and Croatia deserve top 10 places, the dutch can probably also but had a disasterous Euros.

So will the vote be today or have they postponed it? If its today then what time is it at?

And now Fleck confirmed to Coventry. I think we will miss him like we miss Mo Ross.

Good player for Rangers in a poor league, this is too big a step up IMO.

Just breaking on Beeb website. The next McFadden in the making. Will end up at a club like Birmingham in a few years time.

Is there any well run clubs in Div 1 and 2? If those who enter Admin in the SPL, they should be replaced. What is the saying we always hear....no 1 player is bigger than a club. Well no 1 team is bigger than the league. If Motherwell drop out then they can get replaced by Falkirk. The game needs to start again from Scratch. 3 division league structure with 2 up 2 down. Summer football. 1 body but it has to be ran by football men who are in it for the good of the game.

25000 is still more than any other team in the country bar Celtic. But thats when schemes have to be put in place to get more numbers in: Kids for a quid. Father and son prices. (Mother and daughter also in this day in age) Fill a supporters club bus and club can provide a few free tickets. Fans who consistantly turn up in lower leagues get a reward scheme when we are back in the SPL / CL in a few years time kind of thing. There is plenty ways of getting the core support up further than those who will simply be devoted. Fans have to look at it as an Adventure and get behind the team 110% at every game to put drive into the team and stadium so we cruise up the leagues. If it means putting boards up of 'We dont do walking away' to remind fans what we are doing playing Annan Ath then so be it. It is only for a short time, Div 3 would pass relatively fast, then we'd get out of Div 2....then upcoming Div1 would be pretty exciting knowing its our last season before returning.

Corrupt fat cats! Its all coming to a head now, they want Rangers punished but still want our income. The 16m figure has put the shits right up them. Is this 16m including Rangers trips to away grounds? If so then how can a portion of that be going OUT of the game when it will be going to lower league clubs? Then to try postpone their vote so they can see how SFL clubs vote first is a joke, I hope the SFL clubs do the same. They should ALL be made to vote at the same time for sporting integrity. Im really hoping for Div 3 now.

If they won it on Brazils patch they would be the best side of all time! I can see a South American side winning it down there, whether it be Brazil, Argentina or the impressive Uruguay. As for England, they are going backwards in tournaments and will struggle to qualify the way they play.

They did say that, but Steven Fletcher is on the standby list.

Just comparing the professionalism of Green to Brown is quite refreshing. Green was never going to answer things over night as its quite impossible to do so under the circumstances. The next week will surely make things at least clearer and we take it from there. I still say lets just let him get on with his job.

When it comes to the crunch I still think a few chairmen will change their minds for financial reasons and use that as their excuse. Not sure we'll get 8 though.

Its known Pearce is anti-Scottish. Didnt he refuse to shake Scotland players hands once? The Scotland team is awful just now anyway but maybe someone like Jamie Ness would have fitted in well to this.

Can only go by what I saw, I wasnt born to see Brazil in the 70s but its Argentina 1986 for me. This Spanish side are quality when they turn it on but they put me to sleep on 2 or 3 games in this tournament.

Div 3 for me. If its Div 1 and we get promoted at the first attempt I dont 12 months is enough time to have the bittnerness of others gone therefore sanctions would be awaiting IMO. Like people have mentioned Fiorentina came cruising back. Its amazing whan drive and determination can do, AFC Wimbledon started again after MK Dons were created and they have cruised through the lower tiers and back in Div 2 in England.

In a situation like this we still have power that we are not using. We could apply to play in the SFL and win Div 1 but remain there winning it over and over again without accepting a license for SPL and become Scottish Football League champions. Soon the SFL Div 1 would be as appealing as the SPL. There is nothing much between Raith, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Dundee, Hamilton, Partick than there is St Mirren, St Johnstone, Motherwell etc. It could be a bit like when PDC moved away from BDO in darts. BDO claims to be the original level but PDC is the interesting one everyone watches. When a player wins the PDC world championship is he a level below the BDO world champion? No.

Just a thought, Green said players should legally be transferred to newco, so will he be challenging and investigating those walking away? If they are his asset then he should be persuing this. If I own a car then all of a sudden someone else is driving it claiming its theirs Id not simply accept this. It could get messy and costly but he should be looking into it IMO. Or are the players correct and contracts void?

This is what Im thinking. All these players are saying Green didnt go speak to them, what makes them so special that their employer has to go to them....they should be knocking on his door for answers! No problem with players wanting to move on but in this manner to walk away and deny the club income is what leaves a bad taste for me. Absolute sell outs.