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Its strange how all this abuse and racist stuff being thrown in the faces right now though! Its been barely heard of, then the Evra / Suarez and Ferdinand / Terry cases have just kicked it off hugely. You'd think it would go away but seems its a major issue in the game. For me I just cant understand it. Clattenburg would be insane to call a player anything racist. However if it was a simple 'get the fuck on with the game' or something like that then it shouldnt be a issue. Players spout vulgar abuse non stop to refs.

Great win for Utd, their first at SB for 10 years. Just realised these 2 play each again in the league cup this week. Then Utd have Arsenal at the weekend, massive week for them.

He's just stirring things up before the cup game this midweek. Offer him Coistys job he'd jump at it. If he was so good Ipswich would be knocking on the door right now.

Celtic 0-2 Kilmarnock

If he carrys on what he has been doing so far then Id welcome CG at the club as long as he wants! Be delighted to see him sitting in the CE seat when we next hear the CL music at Ibrox. And be delighted to see him do a lap of honour with the top flight title in a few years - whatever it will be called by then. A few years is nothing, it will fly by.

After reading the first sentence of the OP my words were 'thank goodness'. The SPL chairmen and none more so than Thompson are so unprofessional and sneaky Ive went from the mindset 'not interested in anything they do' to 'if they go under they can only blame themselves and I might have a wry smile'. I can really see 2 or 3 SPL clubs going towards bust and the restructure will be forced through on that basis - so obviously dirty! Then the SFL really need to stand up and take a grip of the situation and not bow down. As someone mention is there going to be a 5 team SPL league? Its so obvious the SPL clubs thought the can live without us when they cant. Why do we constantly have to enter their thoughts? They all wanted to draw us in the cup competitions. Im delighted we got the home tie and its Inverness who we play in the League cup quarters. If we get past that then at least we dont have to make the journey to any of their grounds in the semi's

Big boost! Of all the signings id say Templeton could become the best and has the ability to become a top Ranger.

We should be going into every game 4-3-3 in this division playing a good brand of football which sets the tone for the next 5 years. I could even accept the odd set back and poor result if something good came out at the end of it.

There is 100s of potential lines. 'We're up to our knees in Celtic shite' If groups like TBO, VB etc want to do something really good to avoid another 41 pages on the other thread then get together and come up with a good version of this and start singing it. Make a statement before hand to whoever (The club, police etc) that this song is returning with suitable words. There is no doubt about it, this song got the whole stadium up and singing I get the impression people would only need to say the 2 words Hullo Hullo and they could be hauled away from their seat deemed a racist bigot.

Id prefer non Rangers posts to be in football chat.

RE TBB I cant see why anyone / group cant go into Ibrox and start singing it with a few words changed. What exactly is banned about it? It is the tune? Because they cant a tune at Ibrox and not ban it anywhere else. Its sang at Tannadice, Tynecastle, Old Trafford...... If neeps use the F word in it then rightly so they can be removed but singing that song changing the 1 or 2 words cant be deemed illegal.

Social problem again. Mind you Arbroath is a pretty rough town.

For spells during a game yes I agree, for the odd match yes I agree. Every week - dont agree. And when I hear they spend minimal time on a training ground I disagree further. Like you said I was happy with the players and overall squad, once its gelled and settled it should breeze the league with the odd slip up always a given. Ive only seen 2 or 3 games on the internet but maybe those who have seen most games can tell me - has there even been a bit of improvement since the opening few games on the park?

I like almost everything Green says but this is the first statement to concern me - If we go another 3 away games without winning then he has to look at it. At the start of the season I said wait until 8 games have gone, now thats 8 games and we are top of the league albeit on goal difference. But form has been patchy. The excuse of a new side being molded together will soon go out the window, they have been together a few months now and should be playing like a team. But spending only 75 mins at training every day is a disgrace, that should be 6 hours for the first few weeks until thet get to know each other. I hope Greens statement isnt the same about Durrant and Mcdowall, IMO they are still part of the problem and for the 1000th time Ally needs a better No.2

Nice team to win our first away game of the season against.

On the other hand, considering this is a long term thing is it not better to get off to a good start and have the team sitting top of the leage with a good blend of experience and youth and bring the younger ones in gradually over the season, so by maybe half way through next season we are starting to see the development taking shape. There would be no guarantee the youngsters would get us promoted straight away. There is no guarantee the current side will but id say it is far more likely.

Just about to say these exact words and add thats its even more wrong with Dundee Utd sitting 2nd bottom 3 points behind Hearts. How bad can the SPL get?

I watched it quite a few times and thought when you see it closer its a bit of a sore slap and Kirkland probably got hurt jarring his neck back or something. Warnock has always been a tosser but his interview after the game made me dislike him even more. He had to come back out Saturday morning and back track his comments. At the start of the season I thought it would be good to get a big club like Leeds back in the Premier League but with fans like this and Warnock at the club they can go back down to League one.

4 month jail term and 5 year football ban for the hooligan. You wonder what happens mentally to make these people like this. There is a picture of him as 12 or 13 year old boy with his Leeds kit and having a photo with Robbie Keane before a match. 8 years later he's facing a 3rd footballing ban and more jail time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20025830

There lies a massive problem on its own. To go to your place of employment for up to 90mins per day when you get thousands per week shows where football has went mad. No wonder its only the winners like Gascoigne, Ronaldo and Beckham that you hear stories like being the first on and last off training grounds and putting in extra hours practising free kicks etc. They should be spending minimum 6 hours at training which should vary in fitness, ball control, tactics, set pieces etc plus each groups doing their own work I.e. Strikers - finishing, defenders - tackling / winning balls. There should be none of this Barry Ferguson mentality who didnt like anything other than a few hours.

This isnt the point. The point is they didnt walk away meaning we'd get nothing for them. They were told they would be allowed to move on. And Goian and Boca are only out on loan and might end up in a Blue jersey again next season.

Paragraphs 2,3 and 4 are spot on IMO.

The only thing Im missing from this thread is when are they actually coming to play at Ibrox? Unless we get them in a cup at home then they wont be visiting Ibrox for a few years anyway. As Pete says Cup matches have a percentage that away fans must get, this varies depending on stadium capacity IIRC. But not only is it good not to see Celtic back, not having the likes of Aberdeen, Hibs or Dundee Utd back in is just as great. Like you Ian, Ive never been to Paradise (haha thats still the funniest name for it yet). Only time I went in the away end v Celtic was the season they played at Hampden in 94-95 when we stuffed them 3-1 with Laudrup and Hateley giving them a proper hiding.

49000+ is pretty much a full house and what we would get for a OF derby due to a few empty seats between the supporters. And thats 45000+ in ALL of our league matches so far....how anyone could put a negative spin on that is mind boggling. I understand it might not be the best football on view but in a few years we will look back at that crowds with amazement. I always applauded Man City fans when they dropped to the 3rd tier in England about 10 years ago for getting 30000 at Maine Road but to throw another 15-20 thousand on top of that for a 4th tier match in Scotland blows it away. And as Pete says for the Queens Park match at Hampden they surely have to at least open up the west and north stands and give Bears the traditional Rangers end. Pretty sure they wont be renovating Hampden for the games until late next year.

It doesnt matter if Wallace, Goian, Edu and Boca didnt find a better deal at the time, they still did the decent thing and transferred their contract over. They are international players who rightly so should take their best interests into consideration and they trusted CG to move to newco on the basis they would get a move if the right one came up. Unlike others who couldnt accept the word of their new boss and felt they were bigger than any club and couldnt even give us a small transfer fee for all the club had done for them during long term injuries (Naismith) and stupid behaviour (Lafferty).