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No idea how Man Utd haven't sacked him yet, its either pride or a big pay off. They should just give it to Giggs.

RE booing it doesn't sit right with me however how does a paying fan express their frustrations? I used to have a lot of guys booing Craig Moore behind me but that was Walter Smiths fault for playing him midfield in his first spell rather than his true position of centre half - which he went on to become a fine one.

On the reverse side it will be interesting if the Spanish clubs started to fairly share the finances there. Barca and Real take home about 90% of money distributed which means the others cant compete, however Valencia and Atletico M have done reasonably well.

A current championship side into the premier league - and when finances are going to hit top tv dollar next season..they dont need us anyway. this should be moved to the lounge as laughter chat. We have our own house to re-build

I never like to say one or the other from our own strikers...its disrepectful to their generation. They played in different times. i do however like to debate who is better..... Would i have taken Larsson over Boyd - yes all day long. Would i have taken Sutton and Hartson over Prso and Novo, not a chance. Would I have taken McAvennie over Hateley - eh no thanks, big mark all day long.

I never like to say one or the other from our own strikers...its disrepectful to their generation. They played in different times. i do however like to debate who is better..... Would i have taken Larsson over Boyd - yes all day long. Would i have taken Sutton and Hartson over Prso and Novo, not a chance. Would I have taken McAvennie over Hateley - eh no thanks, big mark all day long.

If this was realistic and there was any credibility to it then the plan should be to contain relegation and have 1 down from the top flight and 3 up from the Championship, with the 4th place side in tier 2 still getting a play off with the 11th placed side in top flight. Anything else is nothing short of abusing integrity and I would urge the likes of QotS and Falkirk to go to the nearest governing body.

Who would you put in charge though? A new man comes in and changes the style of play could mean going back a step and affect qualification next time around. Id stick with Strachan but would like to see him bring in Big Eck as his number two.

Always loved Archie McPherson, he should be inducted into Scottish hall of fame, awesome memories from him. Its quite surreal watching this now and thinking of Rangers in the 3rd tier, but we had to get our own ship in order which took 3 years. With W&W we are a different animal.

Overall there has been improvement. If it was club football that would be assessed and taking into consideration. Hands down he has made improvements therefore should continue. McLeish, Souness, Dalglish....anyone think they would do any better? Only Alex Ferguson would get another 10-20% out these players but he isn't going to take it as he is retired.

If you look at the teams 4th in each group none of them get a tally of Scotlands points. It was down to one game - away to Georgia that cost us plus Ireland taking a freak 4 pts off Germany. He should 100% stay in the job but bring in a better assistant. For the first campaign in 20 years the manager should stay on.

Yeah der, for me Millers work rate goes without saying and embarrassed imposters like Boyd before him. I was a Miller fan all day long (although bottled beer Miller is rank), always turned up and scored in big games. Waghorn is easy a level or two above your Boyds and Kyles by a country mile.

Whats the line ups??? Possible gear shift to Footie chat??

You only have to look at Ibrox and how we are benefitting from a total overhaul. Unfortunately Regan and Doncaster enjoy being incompetent and couldn't dream of being a winner like Warburton.

I wonder what the odds are on Wales screwing things up again. Bosnia can still make the play offs if they win and Israel lose so they have something to play for. Tricky place to go. But Andorra at home, not winning that would be like Rangers result at Stirling under Ally.

Yeah an overhaul from top to bottom. Revamp of the league system, a move to summer football (Norway are on the way up and a win away from qualifying, it doesn't do Russia any harm), mass investment in youth), a change in those running the game who are nothing short of baboons. If that doesn't happen we wont qualify for another 10 years and if we do it will be down to the luck of the draw. You see teams like Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia & Hez who have all just had their own national sides for 2 decades, they produce good sides and have low populations. Its a social thing in Scotland. Its possible a British thing as England underachieve all the time, and Wales are only qualifying due to Bale who is world class.

Its a very common theme in football that teams can only produce some types of applications in certain games. Just look at Arsenal, awful in the CL then versus Man Utd they all put in a shift and they were unplayable at times. They cant do it every week but 7 or 8 games out of 10 should be at full pelt not the opposite.

I think the type of striker who would absolutely thrive off this system would be a Kenny Miller of 5-6 years ago. Pacey, gets in behind and is a decent level. TBH ive not seen enough of Waghorn yet to know what to expect in the top flight, but he is doing everything right at the moment. Double figures at a new club in the first 2 months of a season - you cant ask for more and Warburton will only improve him.

Dalglish "Klopp doesn't seem like a man who is in love with themselves". - Big dig at Rodgers. Not the first time ive heard this but quite surprising as he doesn't come across like that. Anyway Dalglish didn't exactly excel himself in the role a few years ago. Finally I think Liverpool will be back on the map with Klopp. I think its an outstanding scoop for them and given the funds he will bring in the quality they need. I thought it would be a while before we seen Liverpool win the league again but under Klopp they will have a great chance next season although I hope they don't. Big Sam takes the reins at Sunderland, probably the toughest job in the Premier League. Villa and Newcastle are tough but Sunderland have been shocking for years. But looking at what Palace and Leicester have achieved anything is possible. There next match is away to West Brom then at home to Newcastle, what a start. He should be aiming for 4 pts.

Yup, time for a 100% clear out and a new set of faces from top to bottom. Ive never trusted Platini. Im all for ex players to be involved in football organisations. You need the business heads in their as well for running things but seems people got above themselves here. I like the Ginola link, he seems genuine and purely in it for the interest of the game. Platini is just mad, and having the Euro 2020 championship spread over the continent is a crazy idea. Tournaments are all about the host country.

I was thinking about the opposition, on paper Wales and N Ireland had far easier groups but it doesn't seem to matter who Scotland get they will still come up short. I wouldn't have been betting on us getting out of a group containing Romania or Bosnia & Hez, those two away would have been the sort of games Scotland would lose. This group was down to having 3 sides all pretty much on par (Rep, Poland, Scotland) and it came down to individual games. Having a head to head better than Ireland is disappointing plus 7 seconds away from a better head to head than Poland shows how fine the margins were. Ireland somehow took 4 points off Germany which is what swang it plus our failure in Georgia. It was a close call.

The two results that we didn't want happened, it was probably obvious. Germany will beat Georgia to win the group although they have left it late. I hope Poland join them.

They always seem to prop up and are a bit boring, but at least there is slight interest this week with things at stake. Its been refreshing to see the likes of austria, iceland and czech rep qualifying with ease plus norn ireland a d wales on the brink. Scotland still in with a good chance although i am not sure who the 9th team is at the moment who would miss out on a playoff, which is extremely harsh. I cant see ireland beating germany so a win v poland practically guarentees 3rd, yet a draw or an ireland win makes it look tricky as ireland and poland could play out a draw in the last game. Its good germany still have something to play for tonight, i hope they put on a real show in dublin, then you wouldnt put it past that happening and scotland losing to poland. The dutch have it all to do in their group, but turkey have two tough fixtures.

Couldn't be anyone else in the manager stakes.

Agreed on all that Calscot. Like you say the likes of Stoke are now established and have probably taken the place of Charlton who used to be a comfortable mid table Premier league side under Curbishley. You only have to look at the Championship in England to see the amount of Mid size to Large clubs who have all played top flight football for a number of years. Blackburn (ex winners although 20 years ago now is scary), Forest, Derby, Sheff Wed, Leeds, Charlton, Middlesboro, Fulham, Bolton to name a few all hovering in the league for years now, and Rangers and Celtic certainly have bigger fan base and stadia than these teams. Its a shame this is probably who we would be competitive with at the moment and I still say a proposal for a 2 tier Premier League is our best chance of entering the English leagues. Where the Arsenal's Man Utds would have wanted us and found us attractive 20 years ago these Championship sides would find us appealing now. The other route down south has to be arguing the case than Swansea, Cardiff and Newport ply their trade in England so why are Scottish teams not allowed.