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Bravo 15M to city?? Looks a bit scary. Liverpool looked good against Leicester who are back down to earth - they will probably get stuffed in the CL this week even at Brugge. I thought Stoke would be a good side this season, they are off to a shocker. West Ham cost me coupon yesterday, off to a great start with Payet playing a stormer. I don't think they are settling in the London Stadium. Its got a neutral feel about it. Arsenal - jammy jammy. Over to Chelsea today and Everton tomorrow.

The dust settling and I think we are still learning a lot about this new team. People have to remember we are still a new side and gelling. Our issues are obvious at the back, Senderos was brought in and had a nightmare debut but he isn't the first person to be sent off on an OF debut. The manager has to be doing some work with the defence on the training ground. Clint Hill was brought in with a wealth of experience and has to step up, the other option is Crooks and if he has an impact like his former Accrington team mate Windass then he will be a good addition. Id like to see a few changes and going 4-1-4-1 which is adaptable and see something similar to this in the next game. Kranjcar is clearly off the pace and Barton hasn't fully adapted to the league yet. Up top Dodoo's injury is unfortunate and he could be a good addition. ___________________________Foderingham_______________________ Tavenier__________Wilson______________Hill_____________Wallace ____________________________Rossiter____________________________ Waghorn__________Forrester______Holt_______________Windass _____________________________Miller_____________________________

It will be all about how we respond. Ross County at home is a good fixture to get back on track before a tricky trip to Pittodrie which will be another ugly environment.

And is it going to get any better soon? This is where I don't get coaching....Assistant manager was one of the finest centre half's this country has produced and this is the glowing area of concern. If Bougherra is a free agent he should be snapped up straight away.

Far from it. I thought MW recruited well all summer but don't see him fitting in. Granted only a match and a half.

Quite good to see Jose on the losing side again. Big statement from City. Arsenal were jammy, 94th min penalty which was soft. Spurs look to have clicked, absolute thumping Stoke.

Agreed Craig and I think 4-1-4-1 may suit us. Unfortunately Barton hasn't adapted to the fast pace of this league - that's by no means his fault, he is used to more time on the ball, its as much a reflection on the way our game is poor. Id like to see Waghorn on the inside right, Forrester and Holt in the centre with Windass on the inside left. With Rossiter holding. Its good to have options there though. Our defence is a concern. We have 2 good full backs but centre half is looking very weak.

Come on Kranjcar isn't that fast Miller and Garner are both centre forwards / No.9s so unless its a 4-4-2 they wont work together. Its still early in Garner's days but Im not sure what he can bring when we are a passing side. Windass energy will be good in most games, this was his debut so he isn't even 100% yet. It would be good to see him in the same team as Forrester and Holt with Rossiter holding.

I think the set up of the team has something to do with it as well Coop. MW hasn't found the right blend so far. This season was always going to be about settling into the top flight again and making progress. Better Rangers teams have had similar results against them so it can be put down as a one off. Where it will get scary is if we went to Pittodrie and Tynecastle and got those results, I would be worrying then. I think its back to the drawing board for MW with picking the team. Waghorn being back is a help and Windass should start again.

MW got it wrong today - first time Ive said that. Having Miller and Garner together was a non starter. And they looked fitter and faster than us all over the park. It looked like some of the awful days under McLeish there. Kranjcar looks finished. He can pass a ball but cant run, he looks like he is playing exhibition matches. Garner looks a waste of money, not a MW type of player at all. Windass looks a player.

I like the Windass inclusion... Kranjcar though? He looks stale and cant run...we will need bodies moving in this game. Garner - Cant see how he and Miller can play together unless its 4-4-2

Wow...Windass, Kranjcar and Garner....MW is going for it

Maybe just a coincidence....yes absolutely...Get into them...So long as we don't freeze all will be good. A lot of debutants today. Cant believe I cant get a bet on...Singapore firewalled off betting sites and they only do the English games betting locally.

Haha did this balloon really say that.

Ive been up for 8 hours doing the bouncy. BTW where does the eh come from?? Ive always just said Cmon Rangers but noticed others also put eh in.

Do you think the globalist fat cats care about what you feel on match day? My only surprise is it not happening by now. But its totalitarian...step by step is the ICC in every country, as per opening post Chelsea v Real in the US. They will be playing weekly in the next decade. Why do you think Beckham has pumped so much money into the MLS??? For a hobby??? Of course not...his team will be playing Man Utd and Barca.

Cheers Ian...I did have Michael Jackson and REM tunes randomly on.....

If he can give us an hour he still has to play. I didn't even think of Windass earlier, he could be brought on to give them troubles. We have good attacking options, its all about getting it right in midfield - something we have struggled thus far.

Don't think we can play 2 out and out centre forwards in Miller and garner. Waghorn has to play if fit. The midfield is interesting though, its 3 from 6. Rossiter and Kranjcar will be considered but id have Halliday in for this game and Forrester.

Its coming. Globalisation will merge all teams. I have said for years the MLS teams want a part of the pie from playing European clubs...and with the money China is pumping in right now means they are coming to the table. 5-10 years will see a Global league.

Not much about folks preferred starting XI's for tomorrow (or today depending what time zone you are in)

Oooff that's a brutal defence. How Konterman was a player I will never know. Amoruso was a bomb scare. Vidmar was half decent, he scored a peach against Parma IIRC. Ricksen was played in midfield too much when he was a RB.

If Aguero was playing Id take a flutter on that but Jose knows how to not lose.

The TV money men got this wrong playing it as the same time as the OF. What a boob that was. But this will be interesting for the jose v Pep thing alone, they clearly don't like each other. Aguero is a massive miss for City and that's the game changer. I'll be have a wee flutter on draw half time draw full time.