Bears

He got beat 2-1 in the final with a V dodgy sounding pen in the 94th minute http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/football-match-centre/live-roar-v-glory-20120422-1xepf.html

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/perth-glory-coach-ian-ferguson-reveals-the-day-he-said-no-to-man-united-boss-sir-alex-ferguson/story-e6frf4gl-1226335396404 Guns N' Roses, Linkin Park, Dean Martin. It might be an odd assortment but that's the soundtrack to Perth Glory's fairytale revival that has taken the club from the depths of the A-League table at Christmas into Sunday's grand final against Brisbane Roar. Around the same time as Glory's luck began to turn at the beginning of the new year, coach Ian Ferguson began giving his players' pre-match warm up a miss and instead sat in the rooms alone with his thoughts and a ghetto blaster playing a variety of mainly 1980's hits. The superstitious Ferguson, who played most of his career with the right side of his shirt hanging out after considering it a lucky charm when he once scored a goal, figured he was on to a good thing and stuck with it. He jokes that he wanted to stay in the nib Stadium changeroom pre-match to avoid the abuse he was copping from the crowd and later, more seriously, confirmed "that probably would have been a little part of it to be honest". But Glory has lost just three times in its past 18 outings ahead of Sunday's big match, with Ferguson the first to admit he'd never have believed a grand final appearance was possible mid-season. "It would be a dream come true if we could win it, because we've been through so much this year. It would be a fairytale," he said. "I'd have said you were crazy if somebody said we were going to reach the grand final. My plan's always been that I want to make Perth Glory a top-six regular and build from there." While the back-from-the-dead revival since Christmas has on the surface been the span of the turnaround, it is the 18-month rebuilding process since taking over the top job from Dave Mitchell in October 2010 that fills him with the most pride. Ferguson went to owner Tony Sage and told him things would get worse before they got better and he would be proved spectacularly right as Glory limped to the end of the season winning just two of 21 games after the coaching handover. "At times I felt like a dead-man walking when I first took over. It was very difficult, no matter what you did or what you tried," he said. "If I'm being honest, I think there were players there that weren't playing for me and I probably never had the dressingroom. There was a massive cloud hanging over the place. "When I took over I knew there was a lot of things I had to change. That was the turnaround for me. "No matter who came in here, it was a massive, massive turnaround to get it right." It was a decision made a decade ago, nearing the tail end of his illustrious career, to go on "a big adventure" for a year or two that led Ferguson down the coaching path. "It was either America or Australia," he said. "We turned up with three kids and four suitcases and a wife and we've been here ever since." Ferguson, the second-youngest of six children, grew up in Glasgow next to two significant landmarks. "I grew up a stone's throw away from Celtic Park and right next to a cemetery," he said. It's hard to know which one of them his late father Jim, a passionate Rangers man who used to take a young Ian to games, would have found more confronting. At 19, Ferguson would defy Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson to live his dream by signing for Rangers making his father the proudest man in Scotland. "He had a wee tear in his eye. I think we both had a tear in our eye that night," Ferguson said. Drafted into the Aberdeen youth set-up as a 12-year-old, he toiled for four years before being called into then-Aberdeen manager Alex Ferguson's office one day as a 16-year-old and told he was being let go. "He told me I wasn't up to what the club was looking for I was too small, too slow and I never had the physical presence," he said. Three years later he had developed into a more mature midfielder, had a string of admirers and was now being wooed by the coach who told him he wasn't good enough new Manchester United boss Ferguson. Ian Ferguson was to be shown around the United training base and began the drive from Glasgow to Manchester with his agent. Half an hour into the journey he turned the car around and went home. He already knew what he wanted. "I knew if I went down there they'd maybe persuade me to sign," Ferguson said. "The next day I got a phone call from Sir Alex and he said 'look, don't be silly, you'll never get an opportunity like this again'. "I said I wanted to go and play for Rangers. That was my club. That was the team I loved." Ferguson was elevated into the club's Hall of Fame after a 12-year stint that included 336 games and 10 Scottish League titles.

Am i right in saying if we survive but get found guilty of the EPT thing it’s very hard for them to remove any trophies because they need to prove we wouldn’t have won them if we hadn’t used EBT’s?

Completely agree

This is a valid question and not to be mocked. it’s a very difficult question to answer as it’s not something that’s done with logic or with a well thought out process. This comes from the heart, it’s like loosing the love of your life. Rangers is the thing that each and every one of us loves the longest in your life. If the core and history is removed and it’s a New Rangers, i defy anyone not to actually have some sort of “twinge” in the heart when it actually happens. IMO you’re not normal if you don't If your life runs to a normal process you outlive your parents, you’re obviously around before your kids and Mrs. Rangers are in your heart from the second you walked into Ibrox or listened to your dad or Granddad talk about Rangers and watch them on the TV with them. You’re love for Rangers is unconditional, i do appreciate that some people will find it easy to transfer the love of the Old to the new, and good luck to you. I’ve tried to bury my feelings over this, that in itself tells me that i may struggle to give a new Rangers the love i have now for them. Lets hope we don;t have to deal with this then this question is invalid.

What baffles me about TBK’s is they screamed for clarity of who and what was involved in other bids yet we know very little of them. At least Miller has put his cards on the table. “If” he gets in then it’s “Hell mend Us” if he takes us to the wall. The fans have proved we can’t work together at our most desperate of time in most of our Rangers lives. Saying that, maybe we’ll look back at this horrible period and it will have brought us closer together. It normally takes a crisis like this to fix certain things. I personally would like to see one unifed supporters group, not 3,4,5 or what ever it is.

Fair enough mate. The fact is they’re here, they’ve proved to be approachable, CW hasn’t been approachable at all

Yip. Tickitus got stitched up too, a lot of it can be blamed on them not checking out CW, but they’ve proved they can be negotiated with. We’ve yet to see that with CW

CW needs to be paid, simple as that. It’s how much he gets obviously

Buying us is in many ways similar to an Ebay bid. You watch the bids till the last minute then pounce.

dB. The RST twitter uses a few people. You can tell by attitude/Syntax and willingness to have open debate. there’s a one that uses it that’s a good guy/girl and will see the other side of the coin. others are rude and won;t listen

Exactly. When i bought my medical insurance we had to wait 50 days for it to kick in to make sure were werent “at it” It’s the same principle with these rules. They should come in in a year to give teams time to sort their shit out. These rules are solely aimed at rangers

Did the BK’s offer the £500,000 fee with out conditions? There’s a simple scenario here. If TBK’s or any other bidder had made a good solid offer weeks ago D&F would be long gone and we’d be rebuilding for next season and peoples personal lives with their families wouldn’t be strained like mine, and i have no doubt many others is as we’re spending to much time online and on the phone to people. People wouldn’t be getting in the shit at work for spending too much time online, Peoples health wouldn’t be suffering. TBK’s need to put up or seriously get to fuck. If this guy gets us and takes down the dreaded road of liquidation then TBK’s and each and every Rangers fans deserves what they get. This guy is last chance saloon, he is going to take us into liquidation, but each and every one of us have known that, or at least highly suspected it for a MONTH Yes this is all DM fault. But we’ve had more than enough time to start to “fix” the Rangers we love. But one thing this whole mess has highlighted in big bright floodlights is we as Rangers fans can’t work together. The thought of fan ownership is laughable. TBK”s are supposed to be 10 mega millionaires that love Rangers. Well it’s not been proved that they have the money, or it’s been proved that their love for Rangers isn’t as deep as penny pinching is. I also don’t believe that the share issue will work as the RFFF has been poor if we’re honest with ourselves. I know you can argue that people are saving for the share issue to be raised, that’s fair enough, but my own honest opinion is it won’t be enough and we’re going to find ourselves back here very soon. Brain Kennedy needs to buy us with or with out the BK’s with an open cheque book. The clock is ticking, the gloves are off and Shit just got very fucking real> SORT IT OUT OR WE ARE GONE FOREVER

One thing they need to do is pay off CW. There’s no other option as far as i can see

There’s a though!! Big thumbs up

he’s the one guy i trust over everyone else too

He obviously knows he’s the last resort. So if he gets us and does take us into liquidation, can we really complain?

We’ve screamed for openness, we’ve got it. I like the fact he’s putting pressure on everyone. He’s also highlighted a lot of things we didn’t know like how long a CVA takes. Is moving the clubs history to another company then merging not just fancy words for liquidation though?

He’s put his bid off till monday to allow other bidders to put up or shut up, which is fair enough, as long as he comes in strong on monday with his bid giving D&F no where to go but to say “yes"

Ng has pulled out. BBC twitter

As is being said on twitter now. Matt has missed the point the Bill Ng is the AP equivalent of Paul Murray, he’s the public face of a group of people that would rather stay in the background at this moment in time

The BBC do have a guy on each morning doing “business today” But to be honest. The BBC out here are a bit of a joke. they get as LOT wrong about the region. Far better media outlets have a far better grasp of what’s happening, and you know you can trust them. Not the BBC

There needs to a be a hugh push by all fans starting now to get a fan rep(s) an audience with D&F and tell them straight. Get it fucking sorted now!!!!

Are they Italian?

If we’re still not sold by the end of the season then David Murray has a moral duty to pay our bills till we’re bought properly. I know he won;t though