OnlyOneAmoruso

It's a protest against the bank. Nothing to do with the consortium mate. If you aren't happy at the things you are hearing emanating from the club regarding the bank then make yourself heard next weekend.

It's about Donald Muir and the influence of the bank at Rangers. Apologies if I snapped earlier.The whole 'you don't speak for me' mantra coupled with snide remarks about Rangers fans who are trying to make a difference is beginning to get quite tiresome.

No, not at all. It's an open offer to any Rangers supporter. If they want to get involved they will be more than welcome.

I do know. It's a protest by The Rangers supporters. What more information do you need?

The Rangers supporters. Don't even start.

It is. I'm trying to get more information just now.

VIDEO - http://tinyurl.com/ykarjxs Let your voice be heard. On Sunday the 14th of February we play Hibs at home with a 1.30pm kick off. We shall be handing out leaflets and posters before the game. We will also be holding a protest inside the ground to show our disgust at the way the bank is trying to hold the club and the fans to ransom. The protest will come in the tried, tested and successful shape of banners inside the ground aimed at those who are currently dragging us through the mire. A protest inside the ground shall have the biggest and best visual impact with regards to getting the message across and with the Sky TV cameras being there, we shall gain even more coverage. We need volunteers to distribute the flyers. We need volunteers to help us into the ground with the banners. We need each and everyone of you to get this message across. We need you to donate any sum you can towards the making of the banners (we have a Bluenose in the trade who can print these in plenty of time for the 14th of February) Donations shall be received through PayPal and a link shall follow. Any surplus will go to a good cause. http://tinyurl.com/LloydsProtestBanner Let's make it clear and concise. WORDS OF WISDOM FROM WALTER "I think you need to be blind to think we don't have a problem that for a team of our standing we should not have and my concern is that that will continue. "We are only left to do what we have to do on the pitch and try as hard as we can and we are doing that. "For whatever faults we all have, from myself all the way down through the players, they don't lack a desire to try as hard as they can to win the game and they are managing to do that. "We are delighted to be in the final, but anybody who thinks it is going to get better in the summer is deluding themselves." - Walter Smith Let's make it happen. BEARSPROTEST@YMAIL.COM Support the Facebook Anti-Lloyds page - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=...d=257485890255 Please distribute as and where you see fit. We need to pull together on this one.

Theres a world of difference between Scottish media coverage and Sky Sports News surely?

Perhaps a week is not enough time and it hasn't been confirmed 100% that it will indeed taken place next Saturday. What I would say is, this game is ideal for it. The reason being it is live on Sky at Ibrox We only have two home games left which fall under this category. A protest when Celtic are the opposition wouldn't be feasible imo. 1, 4 and 5 are very good points and ones that should be developed further.

He apparently mentioned the protest once but I didn't catch it. Last night was a call for clarity. He asked Muir to step out of the shadows and answer perfectly valid questions. Chick Young said he hasn't been able to get near him so also said if he wished to come on the show and speak he was more than welcome.

I know and I was pointing out that it's their opinion and they are perfectly entitled to it.

It's a good job RM only equates to a small percentage of our online support then

How can you say an opinion is a load of rubbish? There are people who believe that but NL isn't one of them.

Not so much the articles rather who took umbrage to them. He has penned one today though (not Rangers related)

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Hope I'm alright posting this here. Northampton Loyalist This is not a piece written for any group or any collection of posters, it is from one supporter who has fought with others on regular occasions. A poster who is today shitting himself We 'on-line supporters' have had it good for a while. Free to express our opinions and defend against the inevitable backlash, free to question each other both as to motive and intelligence, to build 'alliances' and make pretend enemies. Today that has to change. Over the years there has been some fantastic debate, real opinion changing, worthwhile debate and for that alone the advent of the online forum has been a godsend. With it though has come a platform for people to push their own agenda, whether that has been as part of a group or as individuals. Under normal circumstances that challenging of ideas is to be encouraged, it breeds meaningful thought and forces people to challenge their own perceptions. Today we cannot afford the luxury of allowing ego to rule our actions. The biggest bone of contention has gone; Murray may still be a shadow looming over the club but his direct influence, if all the various rumours are correct, has all but dried up. The Murray debate will rage for the rest of all our lifetimes, the outcome will remain, as it ever was, indecisive and people will keep the memories they hold today. The terms applied in the past few years count for nothing today 'Murray haters' and Murrayites' must stand together for the good of the club. Walter Smith too has sparked his fair share of debate. To some he is above any and all criticism, the halcyon days of Nine In A Row and a triumphant return to the club in it's hour of need have assured him a place amongst our managing greats. To others he is a relic of the way football used to be played, safety first and at times boring, afraid to use youth and incapable of adapting his game-plan. Under normal circumstances the debates would be good, necessary even, a spur to the people in charge and aimed at keeping a freshness about the club. Today Smith appears to be the single voice of any note that genuinely has the best interests of the club at heart. Walter Smith was a Rangers fan long before he was given a chance as assistant manager under Souness and he remains as passionate a fan as you will find sitting in the stands. The things that are hurting us today are hurting him as much and perhaps more; we can blind ourselves to the real problems should we so choose, he does not have that luxury and must face the direct consequences on a daily basis. Walter Smith alone has opened a crack in the door for the fans to fearfully peer through; Murray has left the stage without even a farewell and has made no noise at all, Muir has done his damndest to spurn the advances of any journalist asking questions or any fan with the temerity to raise concern, Lloyds have uttered the bear minimum in the way of meaningful dialogue and the upshot is the vacuum of knowledge we now see. Whatever the individuals thoughts on Smith the manager, Smith the man has our best interests at heart and has made the call to arms. Pretty words on a message-board are fantastic in their place but that place is not now, we need cohesion and co-ordination. We need to shelve the more divisive of arguments and fight for the common ground. We are all fans of a club that demands more than simple support, Rangers' gets under your skin, into your life in a way no other institution the world can and because of that when she is under direct and clear threat we have to act as one. I fight with my brothers on a daily basis, always have, but woe betide the person that picks a fight with any of us because the others will step in. As a united front the Rangers support is something far beyond the power of Lloyds to control, never mind an individual like Muir. If you are in the Trust and someone from the assembly has pissed you off, forget it for now. If someone on Rangers Media has upset someone on FollowFollow you need to put it aside, for now at least. Individual arguments count for nothing in the face of a threat that is very real and very clear. Each person on their own is but a single voice and simply cannot achieve what we need today. As a united front the will of our support would be overwhelming. Ego counts for nothing at a time like this, personal victories will be truly hollow if the prize is a club destroyed while the support watched it happen. Far subtler minds than myself will set the true agenda in the coming days, people with a flair for politics will hopefully set the support on the right road and leave simply the walking to be done. In the meantime we need to appreciate that regardless of individual motives Lloyds and Muir are working their way towards destroying our club. The person in the middle has made this painfully clear and we can only ignore Smith's words at our own peril. You owe it to your fellow supporters to do whatever it is you can, be that adding your voice to a protest, carrying a banner or changing who you bank with. The sad fact is if we all wait we may find ourselves pushing too late. For anyone with a login to FF you can follow the thread here http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=626154

Partly yes. More to whom this behest to behest came from

You could say that.... Glad the posters here are more hospitable to a different opinion

Have you heard of the phrase 'at the behest of' mate? A bank employee in all but name only.

Surely if people like Edgar are coming out and offering praise to Martin Bain of all people that the support needs to waken up to the prospect of someone WORSE than Bain?

Thanks mate. The call for clarity is out there. If Muir is simply trying to recoup the money owed then he will have no problems with coming out and saying so. The fact that no journalist can get near him for love nor money tells its own story.

Just tuned in Zappa. A wee rundown on what I missed? Cheers

You're the least of my worries on here! Won't be home until nearer 6.30 but as we know, he likes to waffle so I'd imagine I'll catch the last 2 hours or do

DE on Radio Scotland at 6:10 discussing Walters comments last night. Hopefully he says 'I don't speak for all Rangers fans, just active members of the Trust' before every sentence and rather than focus on that we can debate his actual comments....

wrong place