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Apologies for the cross quote, I am trying to hoover and do a big washin at the same time as dreaming of the glory days. I am certain that winning trophies is what success brings, if you fancy the Corinthian dogma stick to amatuerism. Incidentally how do you see our true worth, perpeptual bit part players or can we become part of the star billing, I expect a lot better from the first British team to reach a European final also the first British team to win a trophy in Europe, we can improve on a two trophy haul, which puts us level with Aberdeen in that respect.
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I beleive the contradiction is all yours,.... "You have to be pragmatic. You can go out and try and beat a better side (or sides) at their own game but you'll only end up like Mowbray's WBA and now Celtic. They can crow about all the pretty football they want (even if it is mostly lies and bullshit) while my team can celebrate success and trophies." What you mean is parish success in a piss poor league, me I think we should have bigger aims for such a big club, or are we only a big club in our own country. To be to the point, Rangers where more successful in Europe long before Smith ever appeared on the scene, perhaps we had a greater sense of our true worth then, rather than seeing ourselves as makeweights for European competition, we can do a lot better with the right approach a lot better.
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Calscot, I see you are an advocate of Corinthianism. "“It’s not the winning, it’s the taking part that counts" problem is that with a few notable exceptions we take part very badly in Europe. Rangers have actually won two trophies in Europe.
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And that is why we haven't won anything outside of Scotland for 38 years, you may be happy with parish success I'm not, we should be at least competing against the best, not ending up with record low points totals and playing like fish out of water, if anyone thinks major changes are not required they are deluding themselves, or perhaps they are happy to win a piss poor SPL and have a few games in Europe for the day out.
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How many teams do you know that have been accused of playing anti-football, it is a term I never want to hear used again in relation to Rangers, but there again I was spoiled by the Baxters, Scotts, Penmans McMillans, Hendersons, and a bevvy of others to numerous to mention, we called them fitba players.
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Aye right.
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I wish for someone who doesn't play players out of position, someone who doesn't play with one up at home, someone that has the tactical ability to advance us in europe, I will settle for Jose. Big Jock never had a load of dosh nor a selik side intent on implosion, I very much doubt any team of Jock's would have let the tenth title slip from their grasp.
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Society any society is built on winning if not succeeding, winning is the ultimate goal.. by any means. If there are no winners we are all losers, socialism, communism, capitalism any ism are all Utopian dreams. The only ism that matters is your own truism, as long as you are true to yourself you can look the world in the eye.
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Smith is not the be all and end all of Rangers, we have survived without him before and we will survive after him.
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All I will say is that anyone who bought lafferty to fill Boyd's boots you know the rest. PS don't tell me he is a 6' 4" winger.
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Alastair Johnston the ? we must ask
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On reflection Frankie, we are so far out of the loop our opinions may be relative to us, but I reckon that is about it. I am beginning to wonder when Murray will return rather than if. -
Unreasonable ? has Smith suddenly become a tactical genius a manager who creates problems for other managers to react to, Europe is the killing fields and we get topped on a regular basis. Maybe you should have a look at some Everton boards, Smith is a negative manager, if playing with one up at Ibrox is your idea of not surrendering the initiative to the opposition, you have a strange view on the game.
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If we want to advance as a club on the wider stage, we require a manager preferably proactive as opposed to reactive, with good tactical skills, Smith fits neither criteria.
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Alastair Johnston has been a board member at Ibrox for 6 years, during that time the position the club finds itself in has developed and arrived at its present position. What if anything did Johnston do along with other board members still in place, to halt or object to the way the club was going, this is not something that has happened over night. What real faith can anyone invest in the board as it sits, who in the main have presided over the situation that we find ourselves in. Why should anyone think Johnston, who has been apparently impotent over the last 6 years to influence matters, be able at this stage almost the eleventh hour, be able to find a voice that will change matters. Or is it far more simple, as has always been the case, it's Murray's way or the highway, I would suggest no one has had the gravitas to stand up to Murray or face him down, and even now he will have the final word, as always.
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I think we might have done that bit, it would be cool if someone could tell us exactly how our chairman is going to prevent anything. http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/163852-rangers-takeover-talk-raises-all-sorts-of-questions/
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You do see the contradiction.
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Having read the interview a few times now, I am getting the feeling of "a big boy with a stick done it and ran away". I think Johnston is covering his back, by letting it be known, that in reality any decision is out of his hands and that of the steering committee.
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I think the theories have been kicked to death Bluedell, either we believe it is Murray's call or someone else's, personally I think it is Murray's and his alone unless he defaults on his obligations, whatever and whoever it is, we in all probability will not know until after the event, if any comes to pass.
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What I find amusing if only slightly, is that he is at pains to stress Muir is removed from the process due to a conflict of interests, I take it this is the same Muir who works for Murray/MIH, the same Muir who will be receiving all information in his role as advisor to Murray and in effect advising MIH on which decisions and courses to take. In effect the Rangers board group is no more than a talking shop ââ?¬Å?We cannot start or stop a deal, but we can strongly recommend,ââ?¬Â at the end of the day the guy removed from the process Muir, will have more power over the final decisions than the board, who in reality have none, if Murray takes his advices.
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Make up your own minds all rather vague to me, except for Murray as suspected making the decision. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article7063246.ece
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Shockarooney Frankie, you don't mean you don't think he could be saddling up the big white cuddy to ride to the rescue ...again...onward onward into the valley of death, no wrong one that didn't end up to well either.
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"Putting the finishing touches to the bid at a five-star retreat on the island of Zanzibar" Of course he is. "Rangers have revived plans for a huge redevelopment of Ibrox first revealed in the Sunday Mail." Of course we have.
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Boyd scored two, when he went off for the dumplin that replaced him, United saw a way back cos we were down to 10 men and they took it. Who ever subbed Boydy and put lafferty on threw it away, rank bad judgement.
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With that I concur Mainflyer, further from the cooncil discussions. After consideration, the committee (a) noted that (i) RFC was developing new proposals for the redevelopment of the Ibrox Stadium precinct; (ii) the project would make a very significant contribution to the regeneration of the Govan area; and (iii) the precinct project area included land and facilities owned and operated by the Council, and land owned by Glasgow Housing Association and Strathclyde Partnership for Transport; (b) agreed, in principle, to dispose of its land holdings within the Ibrox Stadium precinct area to facilitate the development and delivery of the stadium precinct project; © authorised the Executive Director of Development and Regeneration Services to enter into an option agreement which would give Rangers Football Club an option to purchase Council-owned land and any land transferring to the Council from GHA within the Ibrox Stadium precinct area, on terms yet to be agreed; and (d) noted that a further report outlining the full terms of the option agreement and the proposed development timescales would be brought back to committee for approval in due course. http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/48242015-3DFC-44C9-8A4E-2E4DD832AF20/0/PRINT4200809.pdf (executive 423)
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With you all the way there RBR, I am just interested to know how land that we apparently do not own has allegedly become a major selling and future development part of the proposed deal. What parts of the club would have to be sacrificed if any to finance this land purchase, assuming it is still available and does not turn into a bidding war with some spoiling party. One more thing, I have seen on other places that no official announcement has been made as to the execution of due diligence, is this correct or do we know for certain it has actually been entered into. Latest claims. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/03/14/andrew-ellis-claims-he-is-close-to-sealing-deal-to-buy-rangers-86908-22110084/ PS is it possible to apply for and get outline planning permission for land you don't own.