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  1. Now if only the club had published something as ambitious as that. Some fine writers there... At least one of who now works for the club too.
  2. I took part in a Football Aid charity match at Ibrox a few years ago now. Sandy Jardine was the home team's 'manager' for the occasion. That basically meant him giving up an evening of his time to babysit a group of grown men indulging in a childhood fantasy; namely playing for Rangers at Ibrox. Jardine welcomed us all as we assembled in the Main Stand, he then took the 'home' side to the home dressing room, pointing out places and people along the way. We didn't need a 'manager', it was a fun match and none of us knew each other far less had played together. But Jardine decided to give us a teamtalk, he spoke about the great players who'd been in the dressing room before us, of the noise from the street outside and the stands above us. I'll always remember him telling us that Ibrox is a big pitch and to let the ball do the work as we'd tire ourselves out very quickly otherwise and that no matter what we should enjoy ourselves. We did. He couldn't have done more for a group of men he'd never met before and would probably never meet again. He understood that we'd all paid money to do something he'd once been paid to do yet he showed us humility and was generous with his time. There were others there too, Bobby Russell, Alan McLaren and Mark Hateley, but Jardine was in charge and it was him that set the tone for the evening. It was my only time meeting him and he left a great impression. Sad news indeed.
  3. I think the attendance for the last couple of home matches has given a few people at Ibrox the fear. Loyalty is a funny concept though. Wanting rid of the manager isn't being disloyal, yet wanting rid of the board apparently is. Go figure.
  4. No, I disagree. Top Scottish players are just as fit as top players from any country, fitness isn't the issue it's the style and way we teach and play football. Hardly any Scottish players smoke for example, it's so rare that when you discover one does it's remarked upon. Yet Italian, Spanish, French and South American players are often smokers. There was a thread on here earlier this week, an article from a former Rangers Youth player bemoaning the lack of graduates from a Rangers youth side that competed with Barcelona at that age group. One of the points he makes is that Rangers and Scottish football in general prefers and develops the bigger, stronger, fitter boys over the smaller physically less strong but potentially more skilful players. I'm sorry, but this belief that fitness and strength are lacking in our game is part of what's wrong with the sport in Scotland. Our players are plenty fit, they lack professionalism in other areas though. That's the problem.
  5. I disagree, poor tactics and lack of skill are the reason Scotland can't produce great players. Getting players very fit has never been a problem for us. The poor diet only really becomes an issue in later life, most people, particularly young athletes can eat practically anything and get away with it, they burn so much off every day. It'll take its toll when they turn 40 mind.
  6. So call me cynical but I was under the impression the whole 'footballers tweeting/instagramming/facebooking at Nandos' was a PR thing they were being paid to do. In fact I'm almost positive it is. That aside I'm not sure why Calscot is getting so much stick, as franchise chain restaurants go Nandos isn't too bad. We supporters make too much about the players diets, the players weight, strength, speed, body mass, heart rate and red blood count are checked regularly. Any deviation or deterioration is noticed and can be dealt with.
  7. Ah, BH, if only you'd seen the look on my face when I read your post! I take your point, I thought it was obvious, but then I knew what I meant.
  8. Yes, but you could almost certainly watch every Rangers home match and most of the away matches next season without having to buy a season ticket. The reward for a season ticket in the past was guaranteed access to matches that you otherwise would struggle to get tickets for. Games against Celtic or in Europe or perhaps bigger domestic matches with something at stake. Next season we'll play Alloa, Dumbarton and Cowdenbeath and even if the Hearts game is a sell out tickets will still be available I suspect. That's what I mean by a small reward. Even if we win every match next season and play scintillating football in the process, and none of us are all that confident of that, you could still enjoy all that without a season ticket. So buying a season ticket with all of the uncertainty around and the quality of football available to watch is can only be an emotional decision. Is it a flawed emotional decision though, that's the question.
  9. Well said. See I've no issue with you saying you are going to renew your season ticket for emotional reasons, none at all. That you feel the potential consequence of not renewing is worse than renewing is your point of view and, believe it or not, I respect that. I respect it because it's an emotional response to an emotive subject. I disagree with you but I can understand why you think that way. What I took issue with was your comparison with other businesses, it suggested there was logic to your decision and, in my opinion, there isn't. It is illogical to give a business as badly run as Rangers money upfront, it simply makes no logical sense. It's a gamble for which the potential reward is quite small. But because you aren't really just a 'customer' because you are actually emotionally involved on a level that bears no comparison to any other commercial enterprise on the planet, then you'll take that gamble no matter the potential return. I can respect that. I think the harder decision and the wiser decision is to withhold for now, but that's just me.
  10. AN APOLOGY TO DARTHER Darther, earlier in this thread I made the tongue in cheek suggestion you should sell one of your kidneys and give the money to Rangers. I was exaggerating to make a point however just in case you thought I was being serious can I just clarify DON'T SELL EITHER OF YOUR KIDNEYS, KEEP THEM FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN, YOU PROBABLY NEED THEM ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A REAL DOCTOR. Indeed I'm not promoting the selling of any body parts or vital organs to raise money for Rangers, although maybe sperm would be okay, you can wank for Rangers if you want. I think. But you don't have too, you can keep your sperm to yourself if you want, like your kidneys. If anyone needs any further clarity on selling body parts, organs or secretions please feel free to PM me.
  11. Really, you thought I might be being serious? Fair enough.
  12. Oh, go on, I'll bite. Tell me BH what other places of entertainment are you paying for upfront? Not just in advance but close to a year in advance? Forget about phone companies or utilities, they aren't in anyway similar, I don't need to worry about the quality of electricity I'll get from Scottish Power only the price of it. But if Scottish Power looked like they might fail as a business in the next few months and were asking me to pay for my electricity in advance then yes, absolutely, I'd make it my business to be sure they were still going to be able to honour their side of the bargain. If you are going to the cinema you'll maybe pay up to a couple of days in advance. Perhaps the theatre or a concert you'll pay months in advance, that's not unheard of. Something like Glastonbury you'll pay way in advance. Now, if Glastonbury went bust two years ago, was now no longer attracting any high profile bands or singers, had very publicly lost a lot of money the year before and wouldn't tell me who the line-up was going to be for this year, well, you know, i'd be cautious about buying a ticket, particularly if they increased the price from last year's concert which wasn't very good in the first place. If you want to compare us to customers then fine, but do the analogy correctly. Wanting to know what you are getting for your money, wanting assurances that they'll deliver their side of the bargain is fairly normal practice for all consumers. There is a reason holiday companies who ask you to pay for a holiday upfront are ABTA bonded, because if they aren't people are wary of parting with their hard earned. All I want Rangers to provide is my ABTA bond, I'm just being a customer after all.
  13. Nobody has £30,000,000 sitting spare, it's invested in something somewhere. As other have pointed out King's story hasn't changed, it's really not hard to follow at all. Aye, i'm sure if you had £30,000,000 million 'spare' you'd give it to the board of Rangers. What is it they say about a fool and his money again?
  14. I still shake my head when people criticise someone for not spending £30 Million of his own money. That's THIRTY MILLION POUNDS! No matter how much money someone has to expect them to hand over that amount of money for something that isn't worth half that and for which he is very unlikely to ever get back is quite something. I demand to know why Darthter hasn't put £50,000 into Rangers. C'mon, sell your house man, get a second job, you claim to love the club but all you do is bump your gums on here, show you really care by selling your car or a kidney or something.
  15. If you don't agree with me on everything then you are my sworn enemy. Die heretic!
  16. Interesting Andy. I didn't read it that way at all. I felt the main point being made, and one I completely agree with, was that at 15 years old a Rangers side were able to beat several good European sides and compete with arguably the best European side. Barcelona were then able to produce three exceptional first team players whilst Rangers couldn't develop one. This is something I've touched upon before, why are Scottish (it's not just Rangers) clubs able to compete at that level but not when these boys get older? What happens to these players when they turn professional? I don't know if the author's release was a major error, but the fact that none of that side made our first team is a little surprising, no? That Martin Bain said his focus was the first team will surprise no one, but it's fair for the author to point out the folly of that, albeit with hindsight. The fact the players plateaud (?is that a word) is a valid criticism of the club, they clearly weren't all going to make it but that none of them did does suggest something was amiss somewhere. I remember reading a report on a Youth European Championships a good while ago now. Scotland qualified and did okay, I think it was world Soccer magazine did a review of the tournament and highlighted three players to watch. They were Robert Pires, Ivan De La Pena and Charlie Miller. According to the author of the article they were the three most exciting talents in Europe at that time. Why didn't Charlie Miller have a career at least comparable to de la Pena far less Pires? I don't know Andy, I think you are being a little harsh on the author. Our youth development has been fairly ordinary for a long time. We could point at Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor and say they're two players who have been an unqualified success and Adam and Hutton who have both been very good in spells, but not much else. I feel the guy has a point.
  17. Hildy, are we at cross purposes perhaps? I assumed you were answering my 'What ones?' question of Andy with your first post. If you were then what part of that conclusion could you take issue with?
  18. Eh? He's not talking about us in that bit, he's talking about Barcelona.
  19. Having tens of thousands of season ticket holders is a relatively new phenomenon for Rangers. Prior to the mid to late 80s most of Rangers regular support didn't have a season ticket, they turned up on the day. A move back to that model would be the final proof that the post Souness era is irreparably finished. Football clubs, ours included, have taken supporters for granted for too long. Loyalty to anything or anyone should be conditional, otherwise you aren't showing loyalty you're demonstrating idiocy. Every second thread on here is about how bad the football is; inept players, bad management, jurassic tactics. Yet we're expected to fork out in advance for what, more of the same? Likewise, a significant percentage of the support are unhappy with how the club is being run. Profligacy, mendacity and anonymity don't inspire a lot of confidence in the future running of the club. Yet we're still being asked to pay in advance, for what none of us can be sure. I've seen the cinema being used as a comparison to buying a season ticket. Well here's the thing, if the film has had universally bad reviews, contains no stars, has no plot and is partly in a language you don't understand, why oh why would you buy a ticket to see it? I'm of an age, as are a few others on here, who can remember the John Grieg days and the second Jock Wallace period. Here's the thing; attendances dropped, quite low at times. Eventually demonstrations took place outside the Main Stand, players, management and the board were left in little doubt things had to change, and you know what, they did! Without us the club is nothing, it's a collection of buildings, nothing more. Without our support, both physical and material the club ceases to exist. At some point something will have to give. Be it the manager or the board, because it can't go on like it is. The support will eventually turn away, if it doesn't nothing will ever change, why should it? So consider this. Not renewing your season ticket, for whatever reason, might be the best thing you could do to demonstrate how much the club means to you.
  20. With respect that's pure guess work. If they wanted rid of Ally a toothless 5-0 doing yesterday would have sealed the deal. Players aren't daft, they know this.
  21. Oh I've no unique insight, only what I saw with my own eyes. I'd say the bulk of the support have now decided McCoist isn't the man for the job, they've not audibly turned on him but in my opinion most have now accepted it isn't going to work out. The players will know this, they'll read the posts and hear the chat like all the rest of us. So, had they given up on him I feel the display would have been quite different yesterday. There was a fight and desire yesterday that I've not seen much of recently. I feel if he had lost it the players would have rolled over and had their tummies tickled yesterday. That didn't happen.
  22. See, I didn't think our midfield was overrun yesterday. I actually thought our midfield held up well. It was our strikers and goalie who really let us down. I also thought Aird played well, he worked hard, was positive going forward and set up a fantastic chance for Daly with an intelligent run and lay off. Aird reminds me a little of Lovenkrands, I also don't think he's a natural winger, but his pace and direct style could cause trouble through the middle or running from deep. I'm not sure what McCoist could have done to change things. We were playing well, matching them in most areas, creating chances, we just couldn't take them. Their first goal was a good goal, it was an intelligent run and good finish from Armstrong who looks a decent player. The second was poor and aided by a wicked deflection and the third a gift. Nothing McCoist or his coaching team can do about that.
  23. That's a fair point, last week was woeful. The fact the players did react is telling though, it says if nothing else McCoist hasn't lost the dressing room.
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