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  1. I imagine if you dropped two words from it you'd be okay, but I'm no lawyer.
  2. It's much more fun being a rebel I reckon, you get to grow your hair and wear a beret. Anyway Scots have a proud history of rebellion when the mood takes us.
  3. Well if you break the law that's what tends to happen STB. We can discuss whether it's a good law or not and if it warrants the time being put into it but it won't change a damn thing. It exists and is being applied, so best avoid songs about the UVF and Bobby Sands.
  4. But that's not either of the songs mentioned on this thread, is it? The second last line of the Bobby Sands song is going to get you into bother too. Whenever I hear that song I think of Simon Kuper's book 'Football Against The Enemy' where he quotes that song. it's lyrics are truly ridiculous when you see them written down, from memory he had to further explain what a 'chicken supper' was before trying to explain why the fuck we sang it.
  5. I remember watching one of Mo Johnson's first matches for Rangers, a friendly at Broomfield, and he took dogs abuse from the Section B. Airdrie always had a section of their support who hated everyone, but they particularly hated them.
  6. Nothing, really? That's a matter of opinion, no? I mean people can link the UVF with WW1 legitimately but for a lot of people they're a sectarian murder gang with a bit of racketeering thrown in.
  7. Interesting. So you don't think that Donald Muir and Craig Whyte made money out of Rangers then?
  8. Go on, I'll bite. How does an article pointing out that many different people have made huge amounts of money out of Rangers in the last couple of years whilst the club remains far from stable get called a "train wreck" by you? What parts of it do you disagree with?
  9. Great article Andy, that whole brouhaha needs shown up for the petty nonsense that it is.
  10. I enjoyed it, it's interesting to get the 'other guys' perspective sometimes. I'm not sure he's calling for more religion either, more pointing out the absurdity of some of the positions being taken up and his hope for the future.
  11. Yes, he scored in first leg too. Prosinecki was the stand out for me, he was playing a different sport from us, and we didn't have a bad team then. http://www.europeancuphistory.com/euro91.html
  12. I'm not about tomorrow much so i'll post it in here and in the Rangers Chat too. Not much chat about the match, hope that's ok. I hope my general depression about the club isn't too overbearing. Ayr Today, Gone Tomorrow? In 1976 five musicians came together to work. Two of them, John and Christine, were in the process of divorcing one another, acrimoniously. Another two, Lindsay and Stevie, had been involved in a tempestuous on/off relationship that permanently switched to off during this period. The fifth person, Mick, who himself was in the throws of a marriage break-up then began an ill-timed relationship with Stevie, before embarking on an affair with her best friend more or less simultaneously. The working environment became so stressed they were barely speaking to each other without lawyers. This stress led to a number of them ‘self-medicating’ quite frequently during this time. It was for all intents and purposes a disaster, dysfunctional, emotionally charged bedlam. The album they eventually produced was called ‘Rumours’ and was released in 1977. It has gone on to sell over 45 million copies. Many of its tracks have been used in film scores, advertising, television themes and backing tracks. All of the tracks regularly receive radio airplay some 35 years later and today the album is rightly recognised as a masterpiece. How something so creative, so crafted and so timeless could emerge from such utter chaos remains a mystery to many. Yet great human achievement often arrives from the most trying of times. Da Vinci, Botticelli and Michelangelo emerged from Florence when the city was under tyranny, literally Machiavellian rule, suffering from invasions, disease and revolution. A city that should have produced nothing but soldiers produced three of the greatest artists the world has ever seen. Rangers travel down the M77 to Ayr this Sunday for a lunchtime kick-off. Somerset Park is a great old ground. Designed by the revered Archibald Leitch, responsible for so many iconic football stands including our own Main Stand, it’s a throwback to a different era. One small seated stand, two covered and one uncovered terrace, Ayr United’s ground nestles down residential side streets with an almost clichéd railway yard to one side. It feels like a Lowry painting and is far removed from the edge-of-town retail park feel of so many grounds in towns of a similar size to Ayr. Ayr United come into this match on the back of two draws and a heavy defeat, although sitting fourth their form has dipped since starting the season with two wins. Last week they shipped five away to Dunfermline, they’re low on confidence and form. Rangers on the other hand are in great form. Unbeaten in the league we go into this match on the back of an eight goal victory. Ayr United’s record defeat came at the hands of Rangers, nine nil back in the 1920s, whilst no one expects that Rangers are clear favourites and deservedly so. Ayr is a prosperous town, a model of stability, yet Ayr United are great under achievers. Whilst towns like Perth, Inverness, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Hamilton are able to produce sides capable of top flight football on a regular basis Ayr United have yo-yoed between the lower leagues since the 70s and show no signs of addressing that anytime soon. Rangers come from chaos, it engulfs us, it’s everywhere we turn. Despite this interminable bedlam that surrounds every aspect of the club we’re playing well, scoring goals and looking like a team again at last. But unfortunately people who make the Medicis look like the Wombles lead our club. We employ PR companies to blacken the name of other Rangers supporters and shareholders and use subterfuge and distraction so directors can cling to power. We threaten our own supporters with legal action whilst people who hate the club spread malicious lies about a match none of them attended. Our club is being financially raped, again, and we’re told that it’s to be expected and we’re actually on target. Even our manager, a beacon of hope during the blackest of times, receives a salary that would make a banker blush despite performances that until recently have been well below expectations. I cling to the hope that the ongoing mess that is my club, the chaotic, dysfunctional, self-abusing institution that is Rangers can, despite everything, produce something memorable on the pitch and something to be proud of off it. It’s not impossible that the self inflicted storm we’re still going through could galvanise the support into doing something memorable, something we look back on in 35 years time and be proud of. Whilst Fleetwood Mac’s torturous period produced a seminal work, the town of Ayr has it’s own songwriter who has endured and thrived longer than any songwriter since the biblical David. Robert Burns came from poverty, endured business failure, heartbreak and probable alcoholism to produce work that is world renowned and still celebrated some 300 years later. Indeed Ayr United take their nickname from one of his greatest works, Tam O’ Shanter – “Auld Ayr, wham ne'er a town surpasses, for honest men and bonnie lasses.” There will be Honest Men in the director’s box on Sunday, it’s been a while since we’ve been able to say that, and if the rumours are true it’ll be a while before we can say it again.
  13. Red Star Belgrade side of the early 90s was the best side I've ever seen. They hammered us 1-1 at Ibrox! The result goes nowhere close to explaining the performance, they'd already gubbed us in the first leg and turned up for a training session in the second leg. The control, touch, movement and possession was like nothing I'd sen before. They won the European Cup that season but unfortunately real life descended on that part of the world shortly after and the team broke up just as the country did.
  14. This should make interesting reading.
  15. That's as spurious an argument as I've ever heard.
  16. I was in that camp for a long time. The what-might-have-been remains tantalising. However, over the years I've seen PLG's career fail to ignite like we all assumed it would and have come to realise that on balance SDM made the right decision. I viewed it through the prism of bad Scottish players v modern French coach, but that was clearly over simplified. He doesn't actually write the column, it's ghosted, so criticism of his prose is misplaced, he just supplies the topic and viewpoint. I'm enjoying Ferguson's column which surprises me, he's more thoughtful and insightful than I thought he'd be. Future Rangers manager anyone....?
  17. See, I go away for a week and sanity breaks out online! I enjoyed both D'Art and Zappa's recent posts. Part of the problem is anonymity, other than Andy (and he's a 6'9" former professional cage fighter so he's scared of no one) and arguably Frankie all the rest of us use pseudonyms. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be using my 'real' identity, for a start I'm work just now, it might be lunchtime but it isn't always when I pop on. But I've wondered how much of the personal abuse would die away if we had to say it in our actual names, for anyone to find via Google for all eternity. For any issues I've got with Leggo and McMurdo they at least don't hide behind a made-up name and silly avatar, like I do.
  18. God wants you rich. Excellent news.
  19. Well that's an impartial article. Who the hell are News Net Scotland when they're at home?
  20. If we want to change the minds of the 'neutrals' we need to work on their terms, not ours. If the general population see certain instances of behaviour as worse than others then that's just the way it is. We can carp about it, we can say it isn't fair but that doesn't get us much further forward. Idealism is fine but realpolitik is more important, that's not rolling over.
  21. In the meantime SA we have to live and deal in reality. You want structural changes that will take generations. We have to deal with how it actually is not how we wish it was. What Celtic do is of no consequence, focus on us let others worry about themselves.
  22. Chibmark's point was why the 'neutral' football supporter who in the past would have had no more enmity with Rangers than Celtic and indeed might have had a preference for us over them doesn't now. I'm sorry but if we look to blame media and the government for inflaming something or refusing to deal with something we're never going to get anywhere. It's not 'weakness' to try and address some of the issues a section of our support undoubtedly had. It wouldn't be 'weakness' to continue that, indeed I'd suggest it would take strength and courage because it would prove unpopular with a section of our own fans. People who hate us, the Spence's and Phil whatever his name is will always hate us. Who cares, I don't, you'll never change them. But there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of people out there who have no real grievance with Rangers and yet currently hold us in contempt. Those people can be won over, it isn't a cultural thing with them. We still seem to be out-of-step with contemporary Scotland, that should concern us as a support and as a club.
  23. Spence and Cosgrove may have their own cultural reasons for this. The discussion on why so many other 'neutrals' have opted that way is a bigger conversation though. The Rangers Standard ran a few interesting articles on it last year. The 'no one likes us we don't care' attitude has not been a great help in the last few years. One of Burns most famous lines 'to see ourselves as others see us' has probably never been more important than now.
  24. Good piece D'art, thanks.
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