amms
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Okay. Aberdeen are sitting fifth in the league at time of posting having played a match more than ICT who are in third. Aberdeen have the second largest budget in that league and should be comfortably in second place. They are 'turning to youth' because they are basically bankrupt, carrying a debt they've no chance of repaying anytime soon. Their fans are excited because they aren't losing with the regularity of previous seasons, they're starting from a low base here. Dundee Utd are similarly fucked finance wise, their young players are getting rave reviews from a compliant media, yet they shipped four goals to St Mirren at the weekend. Any Rangers manager would be immediately fired for losing four goals to them. Dundee Utd used to produce excellent young players, they haven't for years though. Time will tell if this new batch are any good, it's too soon to say. But please remember the standard they are playing at, the top league in Scotland is currently as poor as it has ever been at any point in time. As I've said on previous threads Johnny Russell, Utd's last wunderkind, is now at Derby County and not a first pick either. Is that the standard Rangers aspire too? I'm sorry but the Rangers support will not accept that level of mediocrity. People think McCoist is getting stick just now but that would be nothing compared to what he'd get if he decided to follow the Aberdeen or Utd 'model'. We're not either of those two clubs, we're Rangers, if we aren't winning things then heads roll. The last Rangers manager who decided to change things lasted four months. McCoist isn't the problem here, we are.
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I think you need balance your 'displeasure' with some acceptance that this is a results business and McCoist is providing results. It's the jumping on McCoist the second we drop a couple of points that I find difficult. It's hypothetical but I'm absolutely positive if we were playing passing football with young players but not winning every match McCoist's head would be getting chanted for weekly. I'd say nobody knows the Rangers support like McCoist, remember this is a guy signed by John Greig in 1983. He's seen first hand what our support can do to a manager who is playing young players but not winning matches. All McCoist can do is win this league as quickly as he can, he'll get no credit for it as it's expected.
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Both Butcher and McCall's Motherwell record is better than Davies. I'm at a loss to understand why he'd be an improvement even looking at his English record which is patchy at best. The style of football played in this country could be much better, I agree with that. I don't think McCoist is any more culpable than many others. Unfortunately the Le Guen experiment has probably ensured we'll play safe with managers for a long time to come.
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Nah, sorry, I tried to debate with you but apparently I was being pedantic. You keep your broad brush sweeping statements for people who don't want any facts to back them up.
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McCoist can't win here which is why I feel the criticism is too harsh. Yes our opponents are weak, but then we've only dropped 2 points all season. Yet apparently he's a liability as a manager? It doesn't make any sense. Who do you suggest we appoint then?
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Look, i'm undecided as to McCoist's ability as a manager, I just think the level of criticism he gets is OTT. He can only win the league he's in and beat the sides he plays. He's doing that. I've never known a Rangers side I didn't think could be better, even treble winning sides frustrated me at times. The time for judgement isn't now, it's when we're competing with the top sides again. I think we can read far too much into things just now.
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Pedantic? I'm sorry here's me thinking answering your various points was the done thing. I'll know better next time.
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We're certainly a few good players short of a side who could win the SPL I agree, but are you seriously suggesting we should have that quality of player in our side just now? I'm sorry but that's devoid or all reality. A study of sides that suffer rapid demotions makes depressing reading, it's a boardroom level that change is required before they recover. I'm afraid this idea that we can fill the side with teenagers and win the league is misguided. Little is an international player. He's not of the quality of Jelavic or Naismith but he's SPL quality. McKay has struggled to break into a winning side. Had we not been winning you might have a point. You know we finished second in Ally's only season in the SPL? We clearly weren't getting outplayed that often. Scottish football is fairly bleak, not just us, but I'd also like to see us try to change that. You show huge disrespect to our opponents with that comment. The gulf between the league we're in now and the top flight isn't that great, you could interchange half of the SPL and Div 1 and not notice the difference. The sides we play are organised, fit and motivated, beating them doesn't happen by accident.
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I disagree. If we're in the top flight in 18 months time then Bell, Wallace, Moshni, Black, MacLoed, Law, Daly, Clark, Sheils, Templeton and Little are all capable of playing at that level. We're hardly having to "rebuild the squad", it will need supplemented but that was always going to be the case. What is it people expect from 'youth development' exactly? I keep reading this criticism of Rangers yet I don't see any other clubs in Scotland producing great players. Indeed I don't see many in the UK producing great players. We lost Wilson, McCabe, McGregor, Fleck and Ness to greed. We've got Little and MacLoed, who has been nurtured into a first choice midfielder, in the first team and Aird, Crawford and McKay on the fringes. They might not be the Busby babes but at the same time it's hardly a "complete lack of development". The football yesterday was poor, but that wasn't typical of the season. I don't know how much lower league football you watched before but the standard isn't great, but then it's not great in the top flight either. McCoist is hardly unique in that. McCoist is highly paid, I'm not sure why you think he's incompetent though, two points dropped all season suggests otherwise.
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I agree. I think most Rangers supporters are still unsure of McCoist as a manager, but I just felt the reaction to our first draw of the season wasn't in proportion.
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C'mon, he's dropped two points all season, only two points. Some perspective please, no one is above criticism but the reaction to a drawn game, remember we drew we didn't lose, is really over-the-top. Let's see how the side react to this 'set-back' before we pillory them too much.
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Sheils managed him at Kilmarnock before he joined us so it makes sense he'd join up with him again, they clearly know each other. If we sell or release a few in January then McKay returning to the squad having played four or five matches in a row is beneficial. A months loan is about getting game time and finding match fitness, Morton are struggling badly this season so it could benefit both clubs and the player if he returns to us sharper.
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It's disgraceful, we've dropped so many points this season through McCoist's ineptness. I don't want to hear excuses about the clusterfuck turmoil behind the scenes, the lack of stability at the club and the CEO hinting heavily that payers will be sold in January, a real Rangers manager should be able to rise above such minor problems and produce a team that can win every match. McCoist must go, he clearly has no idea about football, about what a club like Rangers mean and about how to win football matches, his record this season damns him for all eternity. Sacking is too good for him, he should be stripped naked and paraded around the city before being stoned by an angry mob on Fleshers Haugh. That's the Rangers way. In the meantime we should all get behind our board and demand they bring in Louis Van Gaal.
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Some perspective if I may. Firstly this list has been compiled by STV, I'm not sure what qualifications they have to compile this list or why we should take it seriously. I suspect they're no more qualified than any other fan who watches the game. Secondly as anyone who has followed football for as long as I have can testify guessing young players is a mugs game. You might as well stick a pin in a list of names because that last step from promising youth to full-time pro is actually a giant leap. It seems to be as much psychological as to do with ability and none of us know the personalities of the kids named here. Thirdly this premise that Rangers are missing out on promising young players really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The simple fact is Scotland isn't producing good players, who are they, who have we missed out on, Dylan McGeough? Johnnie Russell looked like a pretty decent player in my opinion but his level is Derby County, it's not like La Liga sides are beating a path to Scotland. Remember the top goal scorer in the SPL is Billy McKay a guy released to non-league football by Leicester before finding the dizzy heights of Northampton Town. The entire country is failing at football, not just Rangers. Fourthly, and most controversially I imagine, the criticism Sinclair takes needs examined too. I've heard it said he only wants large physically strong boys yet a look at MacLoed, Aird and Crawford, the most promising of our younger players, suggests the opposite. Had Danny Wilson, Jamie Ness and Rhys McCabe shown more patience and less greed we might be looking at a starting 11 with at least four homegrown starters each week, as many as any side in the league I'd contest. The only club we can really be compared too is Celtic, from what I can see they've developed one player of any note, and an alleged sex pest to boot, in the last five years. Dundee Utd can finish third bottom and no one will bat an eyelid, that allows them to 'blood' young players. Good luck trying that at Rangers.
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Democratic Process - Hanging by a thread or a rope ?
amms replied to D'Artagnan's topic in Rangers Chat
We've no choice but to move forward with it, but dissent can still be shown. Stockbridge remains in control of our finances with a ringing endorsement from our chairman. The Easedales remain, they are people who I wouldn't want as fans far less directors, seriously, they shouldn't be near our club. Through it all Jack Irvine's malevolent presence remains and please always remember he's an employee, he's doing the bidding of the people who pay him, namely our board. So it's all very well to say three of the board are new give them a chance, I've no option but to give them a chance, but already one of them has shown himself to be less than in-tune with our club and our support. The 'fuss' wasn't about the AGM, the 'fuss' was about the consistent raping of the club and the lying to fans. The AGM was the culmination of a chapter but it was certainly not the end of the story. Focusing on the football was the mistake we made under SDM, I won't make it again, you can if you want. -
Democratic Process - Hanging by a thread or a rope ?
amms replied to D'Artagnan's topic in Rangers Chat
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Democratic Process - Hanging by a thread or a rope ?
amms replied to D'Artagnan's topic in Rangers Chat
I think there's a misunderstanding of democracy here D'Art. Democracy in my view is about one man one vote and it surely includes freedom of movement, the freedom to remove or refuse labour or material support for something you don't agree with. I'm sure all the 'people' at Blue Pitch Holdings, Laxey and Margarita will be at Ibrox for the rest of the season now, bringing their friends and family along too. They'll buy scarves, jerseys and pies, maybe a programme each and fill the stands. There was nothing 'democratic' about Thursday's vote. Already rich organisations voted in a way they felt would increase their wealth. That's not democracy, far from it. Indeed history tells us that when the masses are ignored, disenfranchised, disempowered and taken for granted they eventually rise up or leave. We didn't see democracy in action on Thursday, we saw naked greed and self-interest, the 'majority' were ignored, the powerful minority won the day. When good men can't tell the difference we really are in trouble. -
Charlie Adam was on loan to St Mirren. John Spencer to Hong Kong Rangers.
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Were you once a bootneck D'Art or am I confusing you with someone else? I'm very close to a former Royal Marine and he regularly displays a similar doggedness and refusal to accept being palmed off by authority. I smile every time I read one of your posts on this subject as it reminds of him. I remain impressed.
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Rangers Supporters Trust 'suspend spokesman over improper conduct'
amms replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
I'm not making myself clear. The issue is over publishing an email that wasn't originally sent to you. If you wrote me an email in China and sent it to me in America and I forwarded it to someone in Scotland who subsequently published that email on the internet and publicised the fact then it is in Scotland the 'offence' took place and Scot's Law that applies. You forwarding me an email someone else sent to you is a grey area in law, however me publishing that email and promoting that publication isn't, I can't publish it without the author's consent. I do agree with you that once something is written down 'electronically' and sent to someone else do you lose 'ownership' of it in reality, but not in practice. It's still a breach of copyright, although in this case I doubt much will be done about it. -
Rangers Supporters Trust 'suspend spokesman over improper conduct'
amms replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
You may think that but that doesn't mean it is the case. An email remains private between the sender and the recipient until the author consents otherwise. There is a world of difference between reading an email you were sent and then publishing that said email without the author's consent. -
Rangers Supporters Trust 'suspend spokesman over improper conduct'
amms replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
You'd be wrong then. You can't publish it without the author's permission. If you do then you are in breach of copyright and depending how you came about obtaining the email possibly more. Whether the fiscal would deem it serious enough to press charges is another matter, but you can't 'publish' something you didn't write without the author's permission. -
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Rangers Supporters Trust 'suspend spokesman over improper conduct'
amms replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
I don't know Mark Dingwall, I've never met him and I doubt we'd have much in common other than Rangers judging from the little I've picked up about his beliefs on various subjects. I also know he seems to polarise opinion among those who do know him. But it seems to me that as long as he hasn't served time in prison for VAT fraud or awarded himself a £200,000 bonus for, erm, someone else doing their job, then he's still a more attractive option than some of our current board. As far as I know the RST aren't proposing Dingwall for the board of Rangers, this seems to be a little local difficulty if it's anything at all. As such it's for the RST to sort out and I'm surprised it even interests non-members. Well, I say I'm surprised, I'm obviously not. -
I don't disagree with any of it, thanks for sharing.