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  1. BEARGER
    BuyRangers Direct Debit now from £11.25 a month! The Trust has reduced costs to make BuyRangers more efficient All current contributors will have your DD automatically reduced Following several months experience of operating the Direct Debit scheme, we are pleased to advise you that we are able to reduce the monthly contributions. The administration costs per community share are lower than previously advised and we are now in a position to cover all such costs from receipts of membership subscriptions. All direct debit receipts previously taken have been used exclusively for the purchase of shares and you will have seen our recent announcement increasing our Community shareholding by 200,000 shares. The new monthly Direct Debit amounts (including annual membership) are now as follows: 1 Community Share: was £12.84 is now £11.25 2 Community Shares: was £23.25 is now £21.67 3 Community Shares: was £33.67 is now £32.08 4 Community Shares: was £44.09 is now £42.50 These revised Direct Debits amounts will be adjusted automatically for all contributions made after 1st March 2014. We hope these reduced contributions will encourage even greater participation in the scheme and we will be ramping up our marketing efforts in the near future to attract new members. http://www.therst.co.uk/buyrangers/
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    http://www.tvl.nl/nl/tvl-sportarena/sportarena/ricksen-in-glasgow/#.UwI8amJ_uSr
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    Is there anyway this new CIC scheme can be set up that ALL monies must go to buying shares and nothing else ?
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    It would take a unanimous vote? If that is the case then it may be a goer. Fans mostly only want their money to buy shares IMO.
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    Agreed, I wish everyone of them nothing but misfortune.
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    I read elsewhere that it was mentioned money could go to other things e.g. youth development, is that not a function of the club board? This may put some fans off who are only interested in a scheme where all monies raised would go to buying shares in the club.
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    My previous post was inaccurate as the rules/law were changed a couple of years ago. TWWC says the unissued shares were forfeited, not sure why the club would do this. If the club can issue more shares then I suppose it does not matter, Dave King must know they can issue more shares? In the IPO section 4.1.1.8 it gives directors the power to Allot unissued shares - whatever that means !?
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    This Tour may run on Saturday 8th March dependant on when we play our quarter final tie against Albion Rovers. Join us on a journey of discovery back to 1872 when The Rangers were just the dream of a group of young kids who gathered on Fleshers Haugh. They had no ball, no football kit and used a bush on the green as a changing room. Their Club, which they nurtured, was to become the world?s most successful and it all happened on the streets of Glasgow. Our journey takes us to the area of Fleshers Haugh where The Rangers played their first ever match, we also visit Glassford Street, Union Street, Berkeley Street, Burnbank, Kinning Park, Craigton Cemetery and many other places of interest before finishing off our day with a tour of our magnificent Ibrox Stadium. During our journey we have a 30 minute break at the West of Scotland Cricket Ground in Partick which was the scene of the Rangers first ever Scottish Cup Final in 1877. It gives everyone a chance to unwind, grab a beer or soft drink and a bite to eat at a beautiful and historical setting. Adults : £20 Children (under 16) and Senior Citizens £15. Group discounts are available upon request. To reserve your seat just send an email to : thegallantpioneers@googlemail.com For further information phone : 0790 2855536 An insight into our research can be found here on our website. http://www.thegallantpioneers.co.uk/
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    I know the law changed of this a couple of years ago, so could be I'm behind the times. Do you know why the directors would forfeit the rest of the shares? Especially if they can issue new ones in future? Is it just a book cleaning exercise?
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    That is not correct. Every new company has authorised "Stock Capital" which it sells (but only a % if it) on start up,. The % not sold at that time is the unissued capital. This is done so that if the company needs an injection of cash at some time in the future it has the unissued capital to fall back on. A company is not allowed to magic up new shares out of the sky.
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    Couple of questions. Is the RST affiliated to SDS? Does the RST pay a memebrship fee to SDS? Did SDS not have a moral responsibility to speak to the RST and other Trusts regarding the CIC model first, assuming they (SDS) believe this scheme worth of merit.
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    Have read this thread and looked at other forums. Couple of things I'm confused about. 1. The guys behind it are saying they still support buyrangers. So we will have two schemes running in tandem? Not saying there is anything wrong with this but it may lead to confusion. 2. How does SDS reconcile having two schemes running for the same purpose? Would it have not been easier to alter the buyrangers scheme to suit all?
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    You keep answering questions that I did not ask. A straight yes or no would have sufficed. No point me asking again, you seem intent on playing with words. As I said I hope we end up with fan representation/ownership.
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    You don't have to explain how a CIC is set up, I am well aware of the procedure. I repeat my question to you. Did the RST board discuss and agree that the setting up of a CIC was the way forward? Or did your group set it up without discussion with the other RST board members? Surely the answers will be in the RST board minutes? Not sure who this one person is so therefore cant say if I've spoken to that person or not. I can say that I have spoken to more than one person involved and trust their version of events. if at the end of the day we end up with fans representation/ownership I will be very happy but I like to know the calibre of the people involved.
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    http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?59178-The-Rangers-Support-Unfit-for-purpose&highlight=bearger
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    Please inform me and others what I have said that is untrue. I did say that the CIC company registration was before you joined the RST board. Where you not aware of this? Have you asked your colleagues about it?
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    You having a dig at me? If so why? Have I said anything that is untrue?
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    I used the term deceitful because I believe that certain ex RST board members did act in that manner. I will accept that TWWC is being honest in his postings but don't believe his colleagues have fully informed him of what they have been up to. Is TWWC aware that a CIC company was registered by one of the group tasked by the RST board to look into the matter and did not report the fact to the RST board? TWWC only joined the RST board in October, this action by his colleague was before that. In any organisation this type of behaviour would be looked at as very suspicious to say the least. So we have a RST board member(now ex) setting up a CIC company without discussing it with the board, without permission of the board, without even telling any of the RST Office bearers. That's deceitful to me.
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    Yes we all want what is best for Rangers and one thing that includes IMO is fan representation/ownership. My problem with this latest split is the underhand way it was engineered by the people concerned. Who's to say that they will not fall out/go in the huff with each other in the near future? I would need a lot of convincing to put my money in knowing that they have a history of undemocratic behavior, in fact deceitful behavior.
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    This afternoon I had a chat with an ex RST board member. It was confirmed to me that the CIC group which was setup by the RST had been tardy in reporting to the RST board on how their deliberations were going. As we all now know they have resigned from RST board and wish to run this initiative themselves. I was also told that it is true that this group while on the RST board moved that Paul Goodwin (Partick Thistle supporter!!) should be the RST spokesman on this matter. They had also been active in contacting others e.g. Paul Murray looking for support. Let me say that I do not know these people or the present RST board. I do have serious doubts about the morals of people who would behave in this underhand manner. They were meant to be representing and working for the RST but it looks like they were using the RST to gain contacts etc. before launching their own plans. Why they did this only they know, is it just self massaging of egos? It's the last thing we need at this time IMO.
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    Statements from Mark Dingwall on FF. I do not know the people involved but do we really require another group to buy shares/club ? The report is disingenuous. SDS didn’t receive approaches - they got one - from the Community Interest Company group formed as a committee by the Rangers Supporters Trust in May 2012. Sadly, some members of that committee have acted in a highly deceitful manner and concealed their intentions and activity from the Board that set up the CIC Group and not reported back properly or adhered to the basic rules of democratic control vested in them by the members. It was only last Monday that one of them decided to come clean and admit they were intending to create yet another group which they would be in control of. As I’ve previously stated - their behaviour is shameful and deceitful and no-one can have any trust in a group conceived and controlled by those who have acted in the manner described above. Re: Rangers fans take first steps towards launching bid to buy club PS - people should also note the attempt by some of these people to have Paul Goodwin appointed as the spokesman of the RST. He's a Partick Thistle fan.
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    What a shock that is, eh?
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    Bigotry towards John Daly from GERS fans! A Threat We Must Not Ignore Two incidents featuring two people I don?t have much time for are red flags that we should be taking seriously this weekend. I watched last night?s game between Cardiff and Norwich and observed Craig Bellamy mouthing off at a section of the crowd after scoring the leveller for Cardiff. I wondered what had been said to him as he was clearly reacting to abuse and also wondered whether or not it was his own fans he was bickering with. The post-match interview provided the answer. Bellamy was clearly upset by the treatment he and his team mates had been receiving from their own support. ?That?s not like them. That?s not what happens here.? Bellamy ? who has been the rounds at many clubs and is well-used to dishing out and getting stick ? was visibly shocked at the level of abuse being meted out by his own team?s fans. This is a growing and worrying trend in football. Many fans are becoming increasingly loutish and thuggish toward players and officials of their own teams. The recent Ibrox boardroom crisis saw Rangers directors being verbally abused in front of their own children and fans talking about torching directors? cars. Celtic have also experienced hooliganism which was carried out at other grounds by the uber faction of their support as a protest against the Celtic board. I have personally witnessed and been informed of incidents throughout the game where club directors have been abused, vilified and intimidated by their own so-called supporters. It all points to a culture of abuse and frankly, it is not about sectarianism. Which means the religious and racial legislation recently brought out is not an adequate legal mechanism to deal with the problem. The second incident was the disgraceful treatment of Neil Lennon yesterday at Tynecastle. By all accounts, the Celtic manager had to leave the game between Aberdeen and St Johnstone early because he was being pelted with coins, bottles and generally abused. Herein lies the rub. You can?t really claim that there was any religious or racial element to this type of behaviour. I seriously doubt the perpetrators were attacking Lennon because he is a Roman Catholic or because he is an Irish nationalist. Neil Lennon was attacked because he is hated. It might not have been racist or religious but it was bigotry in one sense i.e. if you believe that blind hatred is bigotry, then if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck? Hatred of a person is not a crime. Depending on how one goes about expressing that hatred, it could become something criminal. Throwing objects intended to hurt is certainly criminal and hurling abuse is definitely a breach of the peace. But that?s just legalese. The real problem in football is not sectarianism or racism. These are expressions of hate. No, the real problem is hate itself. Football in the 21st century is a breeding ground for hate but that hate is now turning inward and becoming self-cannibalistic. Sadly, Rangers is a perfect example where open hatred of the board and pro-board fans is clearly demonstrated by the rebels. I get messages of the vilest abuse constantly from these people, far more than from Celtic fans. Most Rangers fans have taken well to Jon Daly but there is an undercurrent of bigotry toward him. Celtic fans are not much different. Much has been made recently of the abuse dished out to Angela Haggerty but, as has been pointed out, nothing said to Miss Haggerty by David Limond was anywhere nearly as abusive as some things said to her by her fellow Celtic fans. This new culture of hate and abuse is no longer confined to tribal boundaries. There is no doubt that it is fuelled by the social media craze. Louts that no-one would listen to twenty years ago suddenly now have a platform to display their lack of breeding and intelligence ? and think this then gives them justification to continue their anti-social behaviour in the real world. I?m not a shrinking violet. I started watching Rangers in the late sixties/early seventies so I grew up in the heyday of hooliganism at the football. And I have been known to engage in drink-fuelled loutish behaviour myself as a younger man. But, like others, I sense an ugly new attitude rising in football that, if not confronted and dealt with, could threaten the game itself. One thing to consider is this: There are so many things that are now taboo to abuse ? homosexuality, religion, race etc. For those who happily vented hatred and abuse at stuff like this, it is now increasingly likely that they will get their collar felt or encounter the ire of other fans. In other words, the doors are closing on abuse of causes, faiths, races etc. So people who like to abuse are resorting to personal abuse more and more. What is even more scary is that this drive to abuse is so strong in others that, in the absence of a suitable other to abuse, they will happily abuse their own. Hating and abusing others or hating and abusing your own ? both are serious problems that are a threat to the future of football in particular and society in general.
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    From BBC website. In case you are wondering where the League Cup final will be played, The Scottish Professional Football League will make a decision later this week. It will, however, be held in Glasgow, so my detective work suggests that is either Celtic Park or Ibrox Stadium. The Scottish FA has, of course, already chosen Celtic Park for the Scottish Cup final with the national stadium at Hampden Park unavailable at it prepares to host the athletics at the Commonwealth Games. Should we not tell them Ibrox is not available ?
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    It was obvious it would end in tears, UB were taking over IMO. Always liked TBO, original & humorist displays. TBO no political stuff, all about the Rangers seemed to be their ethos.
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