Norris Cole

As long as we're not one of them. If he was that good he wouldn't still be at that holocaust of a football club. Both Sigurdsson's goals were better. Macguire just booted it.

I'd agree with that, although I think the point was whether supporting the Scotland football team made you more "Scottish" which I find bizarre. I know people who have no interest in football but are no less "Scottish" than some of the idiots who go to games. Seriously, if you want to be "Scottish", there's not many more enjoyable days out than Murrayfield during the Six Nations

Can't see me ever paying to watch Scotland until the jokers who're supposed to be running our game gtf. As for tonight, would be nice to see us win but I really couldn't care less. I'm going to the cinema.

Target audience? The post was on FF FFS

Aye, it doesn't look good when people go on football forums and use words like "Jesuitical".

Some of you guys need to get with the programme. It is always, always Rangers' fault when Scotland lose.

As mentioned in another thread, Jan Fabel's article from FF. I think the Nazi Germany analogy damages the credibility of the argument slightly, but a decent read nonetheless. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ââ?¬Â¦for The Rangers, our fans and for Scottish society. This, goes on a bit and can be seen, if you wish as, a bit of a rant but Iââ?¬â?¢m merely trying to see the latest anti-Rangers stitch up and the inaction of those who should be our ââ?¬Ë?friendsââ?¬â?¢, in a wider context. Itââ?¬â?¢s up to you if you want to read the piece or notââ?¬Â¦ BBC Scotland has, on numerous occasions made very high profile and repeated negative reports on the actions of Rangers' supporters, players and the club's officials. The Sports and news departments within BBC Scotland are populated with people who are entirely comfortable with their inbuilt Rangers FC antipathy/positive Celtc FC outlook and are equally insouciant when it comes to making editorial decisions on how to 'spin' particular stories or, indeed, whether to report particular events at all. Only a fool would be unable to fathom the correlation between the 'recruiting policy' within these BBC departments and the highlighting of anti-Rangers stories and the constant supply of pro Celtc pabulum. The most disturbing aspect of the policies of these departments, within a publically owned, tax payer funded service, like the BBC, is the Gobbelsesque demonisation of a particular group within Scottish society. Each day the more aware on this forum point out the bias within BBC Scotland and the wider Scottish media. We are aware because we have become attuned, over time, to the anti Rangers nature of the reporting. The changes in this period have been considerable; there has always been the blatantly inaccurate over the top attacks from people like Archer, Spiers, McNee etc, much worse still is the almost subliminal torrent of anti-Rangers propaganda, the main thrust of which is to make it appear that somehow Rangers fans are ââ?¬Ë?differentââ?¬â?¢ from the rest of Scottish citizenry and therefore seem somehow less able to behave properly in civilised society. In a separate prong of the relentless attack, the achievements of our club on the football field are to be belittled or dirtied with the implication being that any success for The Rangers is achieved only in an underhand way and/or with the collusion of a supposed corrupt proââ?¬â??Rangers football officialdom. This is of course, laughable but this classic Jesuitical line, of trying to silence the screams by accusing the victim of the crimes of his or her tormentor is the line being trotted out by unsavoury, agenda-driven elements within the Scottish media and reinforced by corrupt and bigoted politicians. The most frightening aspect of this agenda is, that it is working; non Rangers football fans, of all colours, can always be relied upon to jump on the ââ?¬Ë?hateââ?¬â?¢ bandwagon. Worse still, from Rangers FCââ?¬â?¢s point of view, are the wider Scottish public, who support no particular football team, in the sense that they do not contribute fiscally or vocally by attending games or buying merchandise and those with no interest in football whatsoever. The danger with this group is that they are being manipulated by the Scottish media to associate all the negative aspects of Scottish society, be they religious, political or social with The Rangers and its fans. As an example, how long did it take the Scottish media, led by BBC Scotland to attribute blame to The Rangers for Scotlandââ?¬â?¢s failure in the Czech Republic? That, of course, is a rhetorical question. Now, as far as the Scottish media is concerned the pretence is over, subtlety is no longer required and all fig leafs rendered unnecessary for a Scottish public ââ?¬Ë?softened up,ââ?¬â?¢ by a continuous stream of overt and covert anti-Rangers propaganda. To return to the Goebbels reference: initially, when the Nazis targeted the Jews as a mass problem for the German state, they had difficulty in persuading the majority of the German public to see the Jewish people as evil. Most Germans knew Jews as individuals, worked with them, socialised with them and many had even fought with them in the trenches in the First World War. Goebbels succeeded in turning the tide of public opinion against the Jews by use of relentless programme of anti-Jewish propaganda, based on distortions through to out and out lies. The Jews were blamed for all of Germanyââ?¬â?¢s ills. A campaign of violence and destruction against the Jews and their property then followed; the Jews were to be 'dehumanised'; treated as animals and the wider German public was encouraged to engage with the lie: after all it is easier to shoot a dog than to shoot a man, especially when those who chose to speak up for the Jews fond themselves subject to the same Sonderbehandlng ["special treatment"] an outrageously obscene euphamism in any language. I know many of you will view the comparison between the fans of our football club and the attempted systematic eradication of an entire ethnic group as ridiculous. But I see many a parallel. In a difficult time for the country, where the old values are continually, derided and abandoned in favour of a promised new, as yet undefined, ââ?¬Ë?Utopiaââ?¬â?¢ that appears to be taking an inordinate time to arrive, it is easier for those in the vanguard of the new wave to select a scapegoat for their failure to deliver the new ââ?¬Ë?visionââ?¬â?¢. The Rangers are seen as a symbol of something to be despised by the Celtc-minded and that is no surprise, as they hate everything about the country that has raised them and given them succour; they bite the hand that feeds them in favour of the view of a foreign country that, in their fuzzy vision, vacillates between some kind of sunny, Rome blessed, agrarian idyll and a land in a perpetual state of turbulent revolution. This ââ?¬Ë?paradiseââ?¬â?¢ is where a mixture of bog standard criminal gangsters, vie with violent, Marxist-Leninist terrorist murders for control. In this world both are lionised just as long as they are killing Protestants. The BBC is merely one of many Scottish institutions that has fallen under the control of what can be usefully termed as: the ââ?¬Ë?Celtc-mindedââ?¬â?¢ but when added to education, the law and politics then the control of the agenda is complete and provides the rest of us with a nightmare vision of our and Scotland's future.

Ross County are all over that ALBA Cup every year. I know they've only won it once but I make that their fourth final now.

Number Eight, that'll be the guy who constantly posts like he's speaking to people significantly less intelligent than himself, and uses 1,000 words to say the square root of hee-haw. There was a far better post/article today by a poster called Jan Fabel about the BBC.

My heart bleeds for them.

You're right of course, but it looks like that could be what's being tried here. It's low enough for them. And as I think I said before, WS is shrewd enough to use all this to create a motivational siege mentality for the benefit of the team.

Exactly. And while we're being clear about things, I think it's pretty plain what the bheasts are up to here: McGregor gets banned for the Motherwell game, Rangers appeal, appeal fails, McGregor banned for Rangers' next game against.....anyone guess? It's not as if they don't have history, so I certainly wouldn't put it past the shits.

It might just be a fluke that the proliferation of bheasts at Pittodrie coincided with Abergreen becoming a bottom-half diddy club, but whatever it is, I like it.

Even over in Prague FFS, where they are all, surely, supposed to be on international duty, they are scheduling meetings about how next to have a pop at Rangers. You have to laugh at the Establishment Team tag.

He's never hidden it.

Bad news for Ian Black. Surely he'll now be similarly retrospectively punished for his assault on Jelavic. Won't he? What a load of shite. This season's fast turning into a 2008-type siege mentality. Luckily Walter is smart enough to use it all to motivate his players, as is pretty evident from some of the games we've turned around this year.

Except Diamond is now 25 and vice-captain, not 18 and a 'silly wee boy'.

On Talksport.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on why The Sun chose to describe comments about "running over protestants" as "vile comments about the Pope". Seriously. Are we "not being targeted"? Really? It's not paranoia if it's actually happening

According to The Sun: "Two Aberdeen stars have been carpeted after posting vile comments about the Pope on the internet." I see they've mispelt Protestants as "the Pope". That was careless

I love some of the reactions I get from people when I explain that I'd rather see Rangers win the league than Scotland win the World Cup.

Whether to support the national team is a personal choice and I totally respect Bears for doing so. I just personally find it difficult given the extent to which it has been hijacked by diddy fans as a vehicle to vent their hatred of Scotland's most successful club - and the club who has contributed most to the national team throughout its history. The sort of narrow-mindedness and petty divisiveness that's been spoiling our game for years. I always want to see Scotland do well, but these days I largely direct my patriotism into supporting the Scotland rugby team at Murrayfield, where everybody is in it together. Bears of an older vintage tell me it used to be like that at Hampden.

OK. Next time Rangers are on the receiving end of a Green Pepperami / Eggs Benedict / Sash in the Grass type non-story, let's get our PR department to release a one-line statement saying, exactly as AFC have just done, "The players have been dealt with and as far as we are concerned, the matter is over." I'm sure this will see a swift conclusion to any anti-Rangers item in the media before it's blown out of all proportion There's only a "matter" when the papes in the mhedia decide there is, and it's only "over" when they say it is. Aberdeen are a team full of bheasts and Rangers-haters, they'll be treated lightly over this.

What a horrible thought

Aberdeen have non-RC players?