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Frankie best asking bluegates exactly what happened , its so absurd its nearly laughable ,it all revolves around some innocent email s that were sent ignored deleted , twitter accounts getting blocked then apologies emails sent and twitter account unblocked , but someone is lying and trying to cover the whole thing up .

From bluegates on RM Just to keep the board updated, it was Christine Sommerville who confirmed the person was known and that it was not in anyones interest to let it get out. I have sent her 3 emails back since she confirmed the person was known, i've also called her and left voicemails twice - I now wonder if the number I was given was false. So is he now being accused of lying .And the phone number he has for you is correct .

The worst thing about this whole mess , is that bluegates,s emails were perfectly harmless and a list of perfectly open and reasonable questions , that's what makes this so ridiculous , that Club1872 have tried to discredit this guy when he has been in contact with a club1872 rep who stated that she knew who deleted the messages and was in her opinion " silly " makes it all the more bizarre given that they are now refuting their own reps word . Open , honest and transparent aye right you are

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I wasn't commenting on the minutes , just when the meeting supposedly took place , keep me out of any more arguments lol

Supposedly there was a club1872 reps meeting last night Frankie

Nope not mentioned on any site

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Sorry but the sooner this rubbish tournament is over the better ,3 weeks of absolute dross

Lolol , at the end of the day we are where we are , my biggest gripe was notrim about club1872 , but the speed I felt it was rushed through with , everything they are doing now with 5 separate bodies involved , could have IMHO been achieved faster and more efficiently by 2 . You go with what your head tells you , if you listen to your heart following Rangers you will be permanently skint .

If you want to carryon then register with club1872 , that way you will still be entitled to vote , don't let anyone sway your own decision mate , especially us old cynical twisted bastards whom at the end of the day just love a right old moan and an online barny .

seriously . oh my good god

My biggest gripe , if you want to call it that , is that we were told that we HAD to move in the summer , HAD to , but whats happened since has been an information vaccum.The WP members might be the most diligent WP every in the history of WP,s but we simply don't know , yesterdays announcement from club1872 was in part forced due to the resignation letters becoming public , the elections are not due to be held until August/Sep at the earliest , in the meantime membership numbers have dropped even though this scheme has been widely advertised and club led/backed. I know we cant turn the clock back but for the love of god I simple cannot see why our initial worries about it being rushed were ignored , these draft agreemnents could still have been worked on , the relevant membership lists could have been sorted by both organisations ,( another small issue about this is if the membership lists aren't valid , is the vote valid ) . As I stated before and will continue to until people realise , this has been a disaster from day 1 , its been rushed with little or no thought to what happens next and that simply didn't have to happen , if they cannot get the basics right god help us in the future.

Yes that was what was in the email , any member can attend as long as they are one of their nominated number ie only 3 from the RST at any one time but it can be any of the RST elected members , same for every org

No they expect Ricki Neil and James Blair to step up , that then throws up other issues previously raised

Pete I was informed by club1872 tonight ,( after politely asking via email ) about the set up of the working group , it's normally 3 from RF , 3 fron the RST , 2 from the RSA and 2 from the Assembly , plus 2 from the Rangers fan board , any elected member of any of the organisations can attend in their capacity of representing their organisations so the working party is pretty fluid as it's rarely the same people whom attend all the time . There has never been a formal vote taken as every decision has been agreed after discussion , I never asked for names as I felt it was unimportant. Small point about your post above , and this will be my last , you keep insinuating that I either wanted this to dail or not happen at all , that has never been my intention ever . I have been consistent in wanting it stalled till everything was worked out prior to a merger , but I was told that couldn't happen , however I am now being told that the working group needs time to sort things out before going public later this year , to me that's gross hypocrisy , you will probably disagree , but that's life isn't it .

Pete we will just need to agree to disagree on this

Pete , I will say again , there was no mention of an unelected wp getting set up, it was the board of the Rst and RF that was to sort this out , why your struggling to understand this is don't get

There are guys from outside of RF and The RST on it , trying to find out who else

Utter rubbish, in that case why did they bother standing for election if they were going to hand over all power to an unelected wp, it's you who has missed the point not me Pete

Sorry bluebell what I meant to say was no I don't think so

Don't know , but why Craig Houston is on it is anyone's guess

We asked for that and were told no , we asked at open meetings for that to happen and were told it couldn't as they were on a timescale , it's pathetic what has transpired

Pete sorry but your completely wrong , the RF board was voted in to do exactly what the wp are doing now , there was no mention anywhere about a wp of unelected people from out with the two schemes deciding on what the Club1872 scheme looked like . 90% of people did not vote for unelected people to decide on their vote , how you come to that conclusion is just baffling to me .

Buster nearly every issue we highlighted at the start of this has come to fruition , that's why I'm so bloody annoyed/ frustrated , I don't want this to fail but they are continually making the same mistakes as before , mainly due to arrogance and the only victim will be Club1872 , as RF has already been killed off .