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Was there any news on when the AGM will be held

And that is just why I am convinced he might just do a right good job for us , listen today was a prime opportunity to do a Murray and spout any old rubbish and make promises and statements that he couldn't keep , then bugger off back to the states only to wait till next year to repeat the same old stuff , classic Murray tactics. What he did today was be very measured , very composed and actually very sensible in what he said , he does seem to have ideas "outside the box" which is something that we have all been screaming for from our board , a bit of creativity . Instead of the same old Murray rubbish this guy actually seems to have taken the time to look and think about where we are going wrong , dont write him off just yet.

More positive and dare i say it impressive comments with regards to the future than Murray ever came away with . Where Murray was all sound bites i believe this guy actually has an idea of where he wants us to be , very very impressed

Are the club going for a record or are we all hoping Santa brings the accounts for xmas , just what is the latest the Agm has ever been held , as this is getting ridiculous

Bad 25 minutes but after that very professional performance and really in the second half we could and possibly should have won it . Considering that we have lost one of our best defender's and that one of our main midfielders has only played 26 minutes of combatitive football this was an excellent result . Whittaker was excellent , Naismith was excellent Rothen was better than I ever imagined considering he was on the right wing all night .McCulloch I dof my cap as a stand in center half brilliant very composed , big Madjid get in there my son , mcGregor not a save to make second half , get the beers out very happy bear:spl::spl:r

:fish::fish:why dont the pair of you just get a room !!!!!

yes stay or yes go now that is the question !!!!!!!

ahhhh can see where your coming from , they have changed the layout so always click the goals tab , it's really quick as well especially on european nights

sorry didn't realise I needed to post instructions , try clicking the goals tab and scroll down

any bears wanting to check out very good football sites should check this one out .google is your friend :giruy:

If you remember last season the septic were awarded a very dubious penalty against I think Kilmarnock , or possibly St Mirren which was outside but finished inside , and every member of the celtic appreciation society backed the refs decision . What goes around comes around .

remember it wasn't that long ago when we were the only team getting c/l football that we had a much better team and squad , yet continually getting horsed by Auxerre , grasshoppers , strasbourg etc etc etc back then NIAR was the only game in town , how times have changed

sorry mate but the 4th round is the last play off round , all teams from the c/l that are beaten go straight into the europa league

To be fair to him , he scored some really important goals both at the start and end of last season , also if the manager doesn't pick him then he cannot really be blamed

Well , any thoughts Frankie

sorry I actually didn't take that into account also I suppose having lafferty and papac suspended wouldn't have helped either , but when you add it all up that is it really a first team squad of 19 , todays 10 ( flecks still too young to be considered a full first team member IMHO ) plus Alexander , Thomson , Beasley ,Papac , Lafferty , Novo ,Edu ,Broadfoot and Mendes

Very few if any of the players that have left made any contribution at all to last season , Velicka waded in with a few important goals , Ferguson held down a position for a while without doing anything spectacular , Dailly was well Dailly , and that was about it , the rest Darcheville , Burke , Gow , Hemdani , Adam ,Graham Smith , Webster and Furman never featured, also for years we have all wanted youngsters to get a chance , however I have never seen the pendulum swing so far in the opposite direction so quickly ever , I mean today we had 4 under 21 players on the bench

Since January , if Darcheville and Burke are included we will have saved over �£6.9 million on wages per year and thats at a conservative estimate , add in the �£1.5 million in fees ( once the players slice is removed as none asked for transfers ) and that we will earn over �£17 million ( if Celtic get gubbed hopefully ) top line from the c/l alone , how bad can it really be , even when we were seriously in debt a few years ago we never saw such draconian cuts as we are witnessing now , all this on top of the club workers who seem to be facing constant threats to their jobs , sad sad times , the sooner the truth comes the better

Before I start just let me say this is totally without any foundation , it's just my own thoughts no sources or rumours behind it . The way we have approached this year from Jan 1st till the present has been almost scatter gun like , any decent or at least any offer for any player seems to have been accepted whether to take players on loan or for transfer , the initial figure of removing �£4million from the wage bill has more than been reached along with getting around �£1.6 million ( once the players cut is removed as no one asked for a transfer ) for players in fees . This has left me wondering why the desperation for this type of actions , we all agree last season though brilliant to win the league , was a disaster from the point of view of player recruitment , with the vast majority being brought in too late for europe and leaving us with far to big a squad , any sane fan would realise that there would need to be some sort of balancing act , and few would agree with the majority of players leaving in fact some would like a few more join the ranks of the departed . However and this is where this season so far has been very strange , with so much riding yet again on the league it is very unlike Walter to go with such a thread bare squad , without bringing in any players , indeed Murray's lapdogs are now infact telling all that infact we need more players out the door before we can even get a bosman or a loan signing on board . I can only hope that this is being done as part of a takeover deal , such as Portsmouth's where they are preparing the finances before the sheikh takes over , if not then what exactly are the figures on our finances going to read, possibly like a horror movie if barrybaldy is correct . Never can the hopes of so many be laid at the feet of so few , god bless them I really hope they succeed ...

as usual the papers are way behind , this is old old news

they were the best of two very poor teams and having their midfield certainly wouldn't inspire me , especially having the strikers they have , the only thing that will save them is getting the greeks

Right guy's todays the day and we are about to set off , good news we are all fit and well and looking forward to it and so far have raised over �£10 000 of our �£20000 target . bad news the weather is pish up North ad looks to stay that way , our kit hasn't arrived from poland ( they got the dates mixed up seemingly ),and we have an 8 hour drive to get started . Never mind it has to be done , if any one would like to support us in this charitable event , please click the link and give what ever you can ,I realise things are really tight just now so anything is appreciated , also there is a wee article about us in tomorrows evening times . http://www.justgiving.com/end-end09/ will give you an update tomorrow after our first stage , John o'groats to Inverness approx 120 miles RIGHT TODAY HAS NOW BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO VARIOUS COCKUP'S , NONE OF WHICH WERE OUR FAULT , so tomorrow will now be today ok sorry wrong forum

just phoned the spl offices at hampden and it is �£13 million per year with an opt out after 3 years , who they opt out to is another question

this story is changing every bloody hour , does anyone actually know what the deal is , one minute it's over three years the next over five with a two year opt out , opting out exactly where !!!! so is it �£13million or just under �£22 million per year

If you thought we had problems before then wait to see what will come if this is true , the bbc are changing their report almost by the minute , sky are reporting it as a 3 year deal at �£65 million which is basically what we were getting , but if it is over the 5 years that's another player or �£1.6 million that will have to be found from somewhere