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Brilliant day , well done Sir Wattie , however reality is only a few weeks away , beware the ides of MUIR , I fear the next few weeks will be anything but smooth , nurse nurse my pills !!!!!!

Maineflyer I think on one of the sites they had a link to leave donations and it was quite considerable but this has been lost in the rush to beat the tims

On a personnal note and though I detest the bloody song I did download it , maybe we should start an internet campaign against Murray , there's a novel idea !!!!!!!!

Man Utd were awarded the sum of �£10 million in the Mikel case , but that had more to do with them having a signed contract and also at that time Chelsea were throwing money around

We are probably looking at losing Bougherra , MacGregor and probably Wilson from that squad , none of the out of contract players are included and Boyd is not there either , we would need at least 6 new players , and those would need to be players capable of going straight into the team . We do not want to go down the route that septic took of buying " potential " , we tried this before and it didn't work and to be honest Ewan Chester couldn't spot a player at 10 yards

Copied this from FF 13 senior players in squad next year -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And thats including Danny Wilson as one for next year. And it could get worse if we sell players. I think the vast majority will not be offered tangible contracts and Muir will welcome the reduction in wage. Even a couple of injuries would put us in the deep stuff. Smith needs to offer an ultimatium and leave with his head held high if Muir and the bank continue the ruthless march for MIH cash. Thats not even worst case senario, that would include Muir demanding capital through player sales as hinted by Smith. 1 GK Allan McGregor 25 GK Neil Alexander 16 DF Steven Whittaker 24 DF Madjid Bougherra 5 DF Sa�¡a Papac 66 DF Danny Wilson Andy Webster 2 MF Maurice Edu 6 MF Lee McCulloch 7 MF Steven Davis 8 MF Kevin Thomson 14 FW Steven Naismith 18 FW Kenny Miller 27 FW Kyle Lafferty 29 MF John Fleck 48 FW Andrew Little Velicka possible kids to join senior squad? 67 MF Jamie Ness 69 MF Gregg Wylde Tomas Kind bendiksen

I accept that Bluedell but surely with over �£25million from europe we should have posted a small profit instead of a loss , however it's in the past so we move on

That's the gamble but after 18 years of Murray's continual lies I made a decision I wasn't going to give him my money up front , you also missed the ironic part of the post , please if your going to quote me at least include the whole line .. I aint asking you to agree , in fact I dont really care it's a personnal opinion and at last count I was still entitled to that . As for the bonuses we brought in way more than that from the ticketing from the UEFA home games , yet we still made a loss even counting for the C/L money , it doesn't add up

To be totally honest Frankie one major reason was because I have a bond I am guarenteed my seat back , so I am not exactly 100% principled neither am I totally stupid , however whoever or rather if anyone takes over I will as usual go back to giving my 100% support , the irony is I may just be jumping out the frying pan into the fire so to speak ..

I stopped renewing 2 years ago after 27 years season ticket holder . I simply cannot go back whilst Murray is still their , this hurts me more than the club , but after years of buying strips , shares , the Rangers Bond ,Gerssave . I felt that I could take no more , If he had been honest and , in some ways very much like this general election , come clean about how bad things were and how we as a club and support could get out the mess then I might have felt better and actually tried to do something , but we have been lied to again and again , the UEFA cup run was a prime example ,where all the money went I still dont know , after the C/L run we had packed games at Ibrox plus prize money yet we still lost money , and that was after selling Hutton . So yes we are being taken for mugs

surely these strips could be forwarded onto the club , they are much better than the dross we are getting sold yearly

I take it the reason it isn't shown is because it will be a new entry , really showing my age here !!!!!!

Frankie some of the official tracking sites dont even have " the best " listed ,is there only a few sites that actually count towards the actual official no1

The press dont like the truth because they cant handle the truth and it really buggers up their "Celtic love in , they are so hard done by " arguements

absolute class:fish::fish:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/murray-faces-108m-hit-if-rangers-buyer-refuses-to-take-on-club-s-debt-1.1020769 Sir David Murray stands to take a hit of Ã?£108 million if he sells his 92% stake in Rangers FC to a buyer willing only to take on the clubââ?¬â?¢s estimated Ã?£30m debt. Latest accounts for Murray Sports, the vehicle used by the former Rangers chairman for his football holding, show the accumulated interest on loan notes payable to Murray Group Holdings in the event of a takeover of Rangers has risen from Ã?£44m to almost Ã?£48m, on top of the Ã?£60.6m loan. Meanwhile, another Ã?£4.5m has been added to the write-off in the value of Murray Sportsââ?¬â?¢ holding in Rangers. Already standing at Ã?£41.2m, it rose last year to Ã?£45.7m, because the Rangers share price fell from 52p to 40p during the year. Rangers shares, traded among some 9,000 fans and quoted on the PLUS market, were at 42.5p yesterday, giving Rangers a market value of Ã?£46m. Back in 1997, when billionaire Joe Lewis bought into the club, it was valued at Ã?£160m with Murray at that time plotting a flotation. Lewis sold back to Murray in 2004. In February, the football club reported a half-year profit of Ã?£13m but did not reveal the size of its debt to Lloyds Banking Group, which has been linked with the installation of director Donald Muir on to the clubââ?¬â?¢s board. In early March, London property developer Andrew Ellis said he was considering making an offer for the club. But a fortnight ago engineering tycoon Jim McColl disappointed fans by ruling out financial backing for an alternative supporter-based buy-out of Rangers. Florida-based developer Graham Duffy, whose offer to back a supporter buy-out was revealed by The Herald last December, said this week: ââ?¬Å?As far as I am aware I am the only individual who has produced a business plan in favour of the supporters.ââ?¬Â Dont know if this is actually relevant or just a rehash of old news , clever bears please comment

Totally agree , the long term has to be about getting fans back into grounds and if fans believe their team will compete they will return , Hibs are a prime example when they were relegated a few years ago , the other positive is that teams can blood younger players without the persistent fear of dropping points

Each to their own mate , but we cant have it both ways , the club get's slaughtered for not standing up for themselves and some have a dig when they do , plus we have been putting it into them when they were down for years , in fact it was the one thing Murray was brilliant at .

Amazing that ever since Murray departed Bain has at long last grown a set of baws and has at long last started speaking out , plus I loved the " sporting integrity " comment

I accept your point entirely , what I was trying to say was that this has been raised by him numerous times yet he never brings anything new to the table that's all .......more important what's this ignore list and how do I access it .

But we continually go over the same ground again and again , if wabash ever brought fresh points or even any relevant points and actually discussed them then I would agree 100% but he is as usual just fishing and IMHO causing trouble as per usual

You keep repeating the same old pish but never ever manage to back up anything with details , your opinion is quite frankly meaningless and boring , bye bye

Why would they he has nothing to do with us any more or haven't you sussed that out yet , AJ is Chairman , Muir is as you keep telling us Murray's man and not the banks and talking of the bank they call the shots not yesterdays man , simples

Dohhhhhhh just saw this thread

What will happen if they find against you , can you bring this case again but in Dundee and against the titled company ,surely they cannot get away with this .