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I dont actually disagree with your comment but unfortunately I think that long term keeping Weir is a better bet given that we will get more money for Boogie , where as if we wait another year we will be in the same situation where he wants to go

someone will need to go , there is no way we can afford to have two center halves sitting on their arses , I realise we will have injuries and suspensions , but we have other areas that need covered or infact strengthened , wide right and left spring to mind. If I had to choose it would be by by Bougie and keep Weir , hopefully getting Wilson to sign an extension ( I know I know but you can but hope )

More good news Ewan Chester has left for Norwich City , happy days indeed

When eventually this takeover is done and dusted ( possibly even this century ) wont it be nice to actually get back to talking about the football , players we are signing , possible glory days ahead . Instead of constantly squabbling about who's right and who's wrong ( I hold my hand's up as I have been as guilty as anyone), but jesus it's getting really tedious .

Is it safe for me to come out from my dark dark place yet

sorry I have just reread the thread and I am the thickest of the thick from thicksvill who has been hit by a big stick several times . I totally missread your point . shit now I have to re post on FF , f**K

sorry mate hope it wasn't out of order , just that they are all getting a bit carried away , so if it was appologies it wasn't meant that way . Also from Rangers Media , Boss has posted that Biyd is going to re-sign

Not just that Bluedell , but this type of post ruins you forever lol ( if proved incorrect )

I suppose this is just another example of the drama that is Rangers fc , christ a few hours ago I was posting that I wouldn't believe anything until it was there in black and white with bells on , now I'm back watching a bloody monitor

unfortunately yes , however he has been bang on the money with other info

Takeover news - The Ellis deal is done -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Ellis deal is done - this has been confirmed by someone very much in the know, I wanted to name my source but after discussions admin, they will verify Ellis will also take over as the new chairman and be very much hands on He is part of a consortium which involves people who most definitely have the cash, believe me Certain things I can't stick up on this board and won't share via PM either, but I don't think we will have to wait long at all (The reason I wanted to name my source is because some things lately have not came true, Adam's clause etc - now I want folk to realise I only post what I know, none of it is made up. I am passing on what I know and no one is more disappointed when stuff doesn't add up, people are free to feel as sceptical as they want) Cheers guys Stevie

To be perfectly honest I fully expect us to go back to the old Walter days in that players are announced without the press getting a sniff , I will not be listening to any transfer talk especially if it comes via the press . The press love world cup years , as the amount of players getting linked will be amazing and they all play the " throw as many names as possible , one wil be right " game

I took it to mean as they were at the season end , other wise why make the statement about reinvesting wages from leaving players . Hey after the doom and gloom , mostly coming from Walter and others from inside the club this is a major turn around , yet again , I am no longer listening to any one and will judge things when they actually transpire . We have been led up the garden path far too many times for this bears liking

Though we will no be spending millions , neither will we be forced to reduce our current wage bill , which can only be a good thing and hopefully now that some players have left will give Walter some leeway to resign the important ones whilst getting reinforcements in. On the subject of the club's debt, Bain explained: "We have been engaged in direct and constructive discussions with the bank about how the club can operate in the foreseeable future, given the improved financial position since last season. "We will, of course, continue to look for new investment in Rangers but, in the interim, there is a plan in place for the club to operate on a stable basis. "The club recognises that Lloyds Banking Group is looking for structured debt reduction at the club. Equally, the bank recognises that the club needs to be managed at a level where it is in a position to deliver success on the field and meet supporters' expectations. "In broad terms, we will invest some Champions League revenue and general profit from this year in the playing squad. "We will be able to maintain our wage levels as they are and, if any players decide to leave, we will be re-investing proceeds back in the squad."

Rangers get strip right shocker !!!!!!!!!!

Walter picks the team and to be fair it is very hard to critiscize him given what we achieved , yes we will miss Nacho but at the end of the day he had plenty of chances to grab the starting slot , also he was never going to be a pick ahead of Boyd or Miller

Eastern promise in bid for Rangers! Arabs ready to fund fresh takeover EXCLUSIVE By John Greechan Last updated at 1:02 AM on 22nd May 2010 Comments (0) Add to My Stories Interested: Businessman Andrew Ellis The battle for control of Rangers has taken a dramatic shift to the Middle East, with investors in the Arab state of Qatar being asked to bankroll a fresh takeover bid for the Scottish champions. Sportsmail believes that former Leeds United chairman Chris Akers has been working hard to gather funding aimed at securing Sir David Murrayâ��s controlling stake in the Ibrox club. It is understood that Akers is close to negotiating the financial package needed to push ahead with the �£33million deal â�� just as London-based property developer Andrew Ellis prepares the finishing touches to his own drawn-out approach. A number of significant hurdles remain to be cleared as the Ibrox club reach a potential turning point. Manager Walter Smith is due to make an all-important announcement on his future next week. There remains the possibility that Ellis and Akers could pool resources. But, with the latter actually landing enough cash to buy out Murray and satisfy the bankers, it would remove one major obstacle to concluding a protracted saga. Rangers and Murray have been kept in the dark over the financial package being put in place by possible bidders. Waiting game: Rangers boss Walter Smith is about to settle his future It has led to frustration regarding Ellis, whose reluctance to back up talk with action forced Ibrox chairman Alastair Johnston to publicly express his scepticism earlier this week. Senior figures at Rangers continue to stress that any deal would have to be rock solid before Murray agreed to sell. The majority shareholder has made it clear he will only move on if convinced that the new owners have the will and wherewithal to take the club forward. It is understood by Sportsmail that Akers, having failed to secure investment from sources in Dubai, moved on to Doha, where he met with a far more receptive audience. The former City analyst sold Sports Internet, a business he founded with just �£25,000, for over �£300m in 2000. By that stage, he had already masterminded a �£16m takeover of Leeds, although he was replaced by Peter Ridsdale after three years at the helm of the clubâ��s parent company. During a long career in the sports investment business, he reportedly tried to persuade Time Warner to take over Manchester United â�� and his most recent ventures reportedly include securing consultancy rights in Formula One, golf and tennis. Ellis remains bullish about his chances of concluding a deal with Murray, insisting he is still in pole position to take control of Rangers. However, Akersâ�� late arrival on the scene may yet scupper that. Dave Kingâ��s hopes of at least providing competition to the Ellis bid appear to be in tatters, with Sportsmail having revealed yesterday that the businessman had been hauled into a South African courtroom on charges of fraud and racketeering. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1280373/Eastern-promise-bid-Rangers-Arabs-ready-fund-fresh-takeover.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0oe4JzHHp

Adios wee chap , I dont know if any player will ever score the number of critical goals that you did , we will miss you

What I cannot fathom out is why the sudden change and also why the total desperation it seems for lloyds to get their money back asap , for a club that could easily trade it's way out of trouble now that we at long last seem to be getting to grips with our costs , and given that we had a 20 year plan to remove the bulk of the debt , I still cannot fathom out why we are going down the route that we are , unless Murray is using the bank as a way of getting rid of the club , without him being blamed , who knows.

I want to join your gang

Your spot on Frankie , in fact he is more culpable than anyone , he knew what Murray was like and all he had to do was tell the truth , instead he has done nothing more than confuse matters further . There are far too many at Ibrox who are unfitting of their positions.

Kyle Hutton started and Archie Campbell came on later , Greg Wyldie was an unused sub , but the whole squad will be required over he next few days , belgium and Croatia next

Good win for the U19's today 4-0 against montenegro , also in the elite group are Croatia and Belgium with the Croats winning this game 2-1.Robert McHugh ,Scott Robinson and Stuart Armstrong with a brace were the scorers

JUST TO MUDDY THE WATERS FURTHER, The grins that came from a season of success against the odds have been replaced by looks of utter perplexion. Rangers fans are easy to spot, they are the ones scurrying to darkened rooms to lie down and somehow try to make sense of it all. They must long, in fact we all do, for a time when it will once more be about football. About players, managers, signings and results – not banks, takeovers, business plans and turnaround specialists. Just what has Rangers 2010 become? Just where will they go from here? Some 18 months has passed since the first seeds of concern were sown, that’s if anyone can remember the script since January 2009 when it was made clear a player would have to be sold to appease someone outwith the football operation. Since then there has been mayhem off the pitch and in the boardroom, but amazingly four trophies delivered on it over the same period. And now the story leads us to the latest crossfire. Who do the rank and file back? Is it the chairman of the club, Alastair Johnston, or the man who still says he is trying to buy it, Andrew Ellis? Clearly, given the verbal jousts over the arranging of meetings to discuss Ellis’s plans for the club, there may well be others at work in all of this apart from these two men. Three weeks ago, as part of an expose into the implications of an ongoing tax investigation into players off-shore trust payments and fears over what would happen to season ticket money and Champions League money, this newspaper reported that senior figures at the club believed Ellis’s move for Rangers, now stretching 72 days since it was confirmed to the Stock Exchange, was a goner. Since then the manager, Walter Smith, and now Johnston, have gone public with the feelings we said were prevalent among members the Ibrox hierarchy. The bank have also yet to confirm the budget for next season, again confirming the fears we said existed of just what funding will be laid out for the 2010/11 campaign, and what will be kept back to address the debts. Indeed, Smith was in front of the bankers again yesterday attempting to find some clarity on what he will have to spend as he tries to reach a decision. Johnston was scathing yesterday, dismissing Ellis and delivering a potentially devastating statement for the Rangers support who believed that this summer would finally bring some sort of conclusion to the ownership issue. He said Rangers were planning for next season ‘without a change of ownership’. So the status quo would remain. An owner who wants out, a bank with one hand around Rangers’ throats. A club pinned firmly against the wall with stage two of downsizing about to begin this summer, just as we said it would back in October, and a myriad of problems intensified by the taxman’s demands that may, or may not, lead to further financial thuds where it hurts. Ellis, though, says he is ploughing on, although he has not put a time frame on this. Today, he also states he has never spoken to Sir David Murray, and it’s now well known that he has had no dialogue with Smith or Johnston. So who is he talking to? All indicators would suggest Donald Muir, the man placed on the board at the Murray Group’s behest in October, without any influence from the bank, as they have continued to say. If Ellis does indeed follow this through, then he deserves massive credit. Rangers are in one hell of a mess, and anyone taking them on should be commended. This newspaper has seen the one and a half page document submitted in mid-February by Marlborough Investments on behalf of Ellis’s Guernsey-based holding company which stated that Ã?£33m would be offered for the club, with a further Ã?£8m invested right away to secure the futures of the management team, out-of-contract players and for squad strengthening. It was light on detail, although the names of David Gilmour and Benjamin Tustin were offered up as contacts for further discussions. But a lack of early detail is no crime if hard cash is there to back up the plan. That remains the litmus test for Ellis, as Ã?£41m is a lot of money and no-one seems to think he has it. The only way Ellis can silence his doubters is to step forward and seal the deal. He says it’s taking time and that’s his perogative, but every day is a lost one in building Rangers for the future. It’s not as if he’s in a bidding war with anyone else, so maybe he feels there is no rush – clearly, in the eyes of Smith, Johnston and the support there is, and it’s easy to see why. The club needs to be in control of it’s own destiny as quickly as possible. Unquestionably, there is another interested camp. Current directors Dave King and Paul Murray formed an alliance some time back and remain in discussions. Businessman Douglas Park has no interest in purchasing Rangers on his own. He remains, as he said three weeks ago, open to helping the club off the deck by investing heavily, but the terms and conditions need to be correct. Clearly, he feels the deal is not right at the moment. King, it would appear, is playing a long game. Whether that is through no choice of his own, due to an on-going tax wrangle in South Africa, or because he wants to pick the club off when the price begins to fall, only he can answer. It must always be remembered that he is starting from a position of minus Ã?£20m after his investment into Rangers over a decade ago that is long gone, something that had led to a major deterioration in his relationship with Murray. The two men had hardly shared a word for some time until they met in Edinburgh for dinner ten days ago. In an ideal world, most Rangers fans would want him as the saviour ahead of Ellis. He is a supporter, a director. He clearly has deep pockets, even if we are to believe he can’t get into them right now. But there is also merit in the argument that surely, given the way Rangers are lurching around, stumbling from one shambles to the next, if he is in a position to step in, then he should do it right away for the sake of the club’s future. Does there have to be a tipping point in his own mind before he moves? And when will that come? Potentially if Smith leaves and the support break, if a threadbare squad gets off to a terrible start to the season and fans – more often than not the people who can actually force changes at any club – start to turn against what they are seeing. Will it really need to come to that point for King to move, or will Ellis have already backed up his words with hard cash anytime soon. Time will tell, but for now those who have paid Ã?£450 for season tickets, and the man who has dragged the club off the floor to consecutive championships, remain in the dark and are left to try and make sense of these shifting winds. Smith is unlikely to carry on if Lloyds don’t change the stance shown at the two meetings he’s now had with them, and may well blow the matter wide open if he decides to go public with exactly what he was being asked to operate with, and what interference he has had to contend with over the past six months. Throughout this entire mess, that would be the biggest shame of all if he is forced to go. Smith and a long-suffering support both deserve much, much better for what they’ve put in. Above all, they deserve the truth.

There is no point everyone falling out over this , the whole internet community is going nuts over what is the status quo , wit the exception of the entire Rangers management team and all directors ,bar Muir , walking out and leaving Muir to get on with it , we will just have to wait and keep believing . There is no magical Rangers fan waiting in the wings , the thought that some group of super supporteres would put us out of our missery is a falsehood , we are where we are and hopefully this is as bad as it gets , but everyone just chill out