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wellwe need to agree to disagree on that one then

no it wasnt , it included transfer money due to us plus revenues from future european games , it would also have taken 3 years for the creditors to get their/any money . maybe it is yourself who should go back and read it

yes we know that , however given that it was also widely expected that this cva would not be accepted , then what

oh patronising , nice , perhaps you could show me and the many hundreds who feel the same way what we are missing .

so what was he going to do once the cva was voted down then , nothing , walk away , pathetic behaviour

This whle Green bad ,Kennedy good attitude is pissing me off big time , repeatedly Kennedy has attempted derisory bids that have next to no chance of succeeding.His offer to Duff and Phelps was the most pathetic thing I have read in a long time , to include European revenue and transfer money whilst only putting in just over £1 million of new money was just laughable , yet here he goes again but this time offering £5.6 million for 51% aand most importantly the controlling share , get real .

we should be looking to get a system of play and our scouting network sorted in the next 3 years

its been advertised on most forums plus most fb sites , strange you didnt see it

Just one small , quick point , with the transfer embargo being accepted ( though we can sign players up until 31st Aug ) , the timeline of our great club will not be broken in any way , just think about it for a minute

Its not just about the transfer embargo , zappa , its the accepting the consequences as they see fit and handing out punishments without the ability to defend ourselves

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No matter the outcome of todays vote Regan and Doncaster are toast , bye bye bhoys dont let the door hit your arse on the way oot

Frankie surely its time to bring out Maineflyer to cull the numbers down a bit ,lol

Frankie , there was a guy , I think his name was Nelster who has a Rangers chanel , but I cannot access my youtube account , will keep looking

http://www.youtube.com/user/scottranger/feed http://www.youtube.com/user/GersCompilations/videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/steve10rfc/videos

Zappa one thing that makes absolutely no sense in all of this , they have basically stated categorically that the future finances of Scottish football DEPEND on Rangers re-entering the SPL next season , yet Regan seems hell bent on further sanctions to hamstring us , the whole thing is bonkers

Sunday , this is getting further away each time , first it eas Monday or Tuesday , then the 12th , now its sunday

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Club Statement: SFL Special General Meeting Tue, 10th Jul 2012 6:17pm The board of Clyde Football Club met last night to consider how it might approach the resolutions (see below) to be voted on at the SFL meeting on Friday 13th July. This update is to inform our owners and supporters and hopefully explain some of the complexities that face the club when carefully and objectively considering how we might vote. We hope that by being as clear as possible about the difficulties surrounding this situation that the people able to support the process act swiftly to do so. The overwhelming reality is that we are being asked to make one of the most important decisions for Scottish Football in a vacuum devoid of factual information, that vacuum having been filled with unhelpful rhetoric and scaremongering by the chief executives of the SFA and SPL. We therefore looked at what we were being asked to vote on, how it fitted with the principles of the sport, and what information we might need to inform a logical decision in context of the current reality. It was clear that the resolutions marked a clear departure from all previous process and custom and practice when considering admitting a team to the SFL, albeit operating within the rules of the SFL. It was in that context which we considered the resolutions. In reality, the customary principles of sport were not at the forefront of the resolutions. We first concluded that there was limited risk to the SFL from the 'Armageddon' theory, as depicted in the detailed presentation by Neil Doncaster and supported by Stewart Regan, which had prompted fears of cash flow loss to the SFL next season. We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 - it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement. Neil Doncaster was unequivocal when he said that there would be no payment under the agreement and stressed that it was not the board of the SPL that made big decisions, it was the clubs themselves. We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement. To assist the SFL clubs to take decisions in the right manner then the external threat should be removed by the SPL clubs, confirming to the SFL that they have not and will not instruct the SPL to breach the Settlement Agreement. Consideration was then given to Resolution 1 which we concluded required to be reworded to be explicit that entry was to SFL3. The reason for this is that once entered to the SFL in the manner proposed under Resolution 1, we understand that it is within the power of the Board of the SFL to place a club into any league of their choosing. We believe that, due to the intolerable pressure placed on the SFL board to date by external parties, this resolution should be explicit to avoid the Board coming under pressure from either the SFA or SPL in the event that Resolution 2 is rejected. It is also our opinion that Resolution 1 being explicit sits more appropriately with Resolution 2 which in itself is explicit about where any club might play. In terms of Resolution 1, whether reworded or not, it seemed inconceivable to the Board of Clyde that absolutely no information whatsoever has been provided to support the resolution. This is clearly a matter of haste and again driven by an external agenda, perhaps because Sevco have not lodged an application to join the SFL then they have not submitted any information. Whilst we have accepted that this is being treated as a special case and we are willing to run with this, it simply was not possible to conclude that we could make any decision at this time. The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging. We are clear that for the good of the game that we would want a swift and positive conclusion that would see Rangers Football Club taking part in the game again and we would wish to be able to support a Resolution that saw them entered to SFL3. However, until we receive enough information to inform such a decision then we are being pushed into a corner which would actually leave any club making a logical decision arrive at the conclusion that Resolution 1 should not be supported. The SFA could assist the process by transferring the SFA membership to Sevco prior to the Friday meeting if they have satisfied themselves of fit and proper tests and have carried out their own diligence on the viability of the club and the various legal challenges. Resolution 2 suffers from the same issues as Resolution 1, in that no information of any sort about Sevco, not even whether it will obtain SFA membership, leaves no possibility of making a decision about entry to the SFL based on facts or logic. Clearly it is incumbent on all the governing bodies to make available all factual information they have available if they truly want this process to have any chance of being recovered from the current chaos. At the very least the business plan for Sevco and any other information that led the SPL clubs to arrive at a decision should be made available to the SFL clubs, and not with inappropriately short notice, although that point has as good as passed. Resolution 2 was where the challenge to sporting integrity arose. It was impossible to engage with this concept without continually bearing in mind that the SFA had already undermined the prospects for any integrity to be maintained by making it clear that failure to deal with the admission of a newco to SFL3 would be a dereliction of duty. In effect posting notice that no matter what decision is taken by the SFL clubs to administer their league, the SFA would not tolerate anything other than SFL 1, an equivalent point having been made by Neil Doncaster on behalf of the SPL clubs. The stated position of the SFA and SPL chief executives means that, whilst this club can have faith in David Longmuir to do all in his power to deliver a new combined structure that meets the objectives of Resolution 2, we have no faith in the parties that the new arrangements would be negotiated with. Their behaviour to date is evidence enough for us. We should not be disingenuous on our own position in terms of the question of trading sporting integrity for transformational change to the way the game is governed that is posed by Resolution 2. We have said previously that there would be no winners and that compromise would be required at some point. With this in mind, had we worked through this process and seen positive collaborative behaviour from the leaders of the SFA and SPL and we were challenged with backing Resolution 2 in exchange for revolutionary change that would truly benefit the game as a whole, then we would have engaged with that. As it stands, we have no information on the proposals other than that distributed in advance of the meeting last week and no confidence in the parties that will control the process outside of the SFL. As such we would vote no to Resolution 2. Resolution 3, as many have pointed out this resolution seems presumptuous as no invitation has been issued from the SPL to either club. Again, this arises because of the external pressures, the haste and the failure of other bodies to complete their own processes. As things stand, whilst Sevco/Newco was not voted into the SPL, it seems that the SPL still has 12 members based on the reported voting at the SPL meeting last week, albeit one of whom is in liquidation. It seems to make more sense that the SPL complete their processes and make the appropriate invitation for a club to join the SPL. We would seek to support whichever of our member clubs are invited to join the SPL to make that move, however, at the moment there is no certainty that Sevco will be entered into the SFL and the SFL should not risk leaving itself short of a team. In summary, the complete absence of information on Sevco Scotland Ltd renders it impossible to vote with any logic in favour of any of the Resolutions. The default in these circumstances would unfortunately be to vote against. We hope and trust that this unacceptable situation will be resolved swiftly and will allow Clyde Football Club to support Resolution 1 from an informed position and will see Rangers Football Club playing in SFL3. We see Resolution 2 as a matter of trust and it would take a change of personnel and attitude for us to be confident that David Longmuir would be entering discussions with a group of people committed to a collaborative process in a spirit of genuine partnership. In the current circumstances our only decision could be to vote against Resolution 2. Subject to a satisfactory outcome on Resolution 1 we would support Resolution 3

Is their nothing the club can do to adress this , I really feel that if planned properly the next three years could set a foundation for the future , but only if the proper ground work is put in place . We as a support have been moaning , with plenty of reason , at the lack of youth development , but one reason that was always thrown back at us was the fact that funds needed to be put constantly into the first team . We had some evry average players getting paid a fortune , even now there are stories of some of the youths being bought from amateur teams for silly money and being paid pretty well but are at best average , also the coaching leaves plenty to be desired at that level .

The author of this is a poster called Vesper . With Division 3 looking like the new home of Scotlands premier club, The Rangers, I got to thinking, how we as a club can use this cutting back of the crop, to it's fullest. With many of our top guns away to seek employment else where, its not only left us with a less than bare squad, but we also have more kids than we do pros.. so what to do ? Well, when thinking back to one of our big spending managers, Mr Dick Advocaat i began to look into a very famous academy from his native homeland, and that of course, is De Toekomst.. that's ( The Future ) to you an i, and although it's a bold statement from the off set, it perhaps is a good omen, or at the very least, a declaration of intent.... They name their complex the future, and get Rafael van der Vaart, we call ours Murray Park.....and get John Fleck............... Being mindful of our finances, and new surroundings, i am aware that we might not be able to pull off everything on this article, but now is as good a time as any, in respect of getting a plan drawn up. The Future training camp of Ajax is state of the art, i mean, really.. it's well looked after and is the engine room of the Ajax machine... this here, seems to be in stark contrast to ours, which seems to be something of a side show... Now i know our top training complex is just that, a training complex... and not say, an academy...However, even with our training facilities, how many times over the years, have we moaned and groaned at the lack of basic skill throughout our team? Before we can move onto a Academy it would be best i think to get the most out of what we already have... With our players having the tools, yet not displaying the product, then this can only mean, with respect, that our staff simply aren't good enough, or are so old school, the only thing they are interested in is strength and height. So first up, Improvement of the training staff and perhaps a change in the training programme if these coaches are using out dated ways of development. Scouting, Ajax take on youngsters from the age of 8, but already have their eyes on players as young as six....I believe our scouts, aren't even on the level of this kind of ability, so a re working of our scouting system is needed also... Compared to the Dutch model, their attitude towards education seems to be different... They place an importance on a equalibrium between Footballing education and academic education..this not only ensures their young starlets have an option out with football, but as a whole, are a more complete person, rather than only being one who knows nothing but football... Would it be too much to have an education system built into the Rangers... or would we just tell them to stick in at school and then pick them up later... In Holland, under their Education, strict rules are put in place to their young students, with regulations on bling, funky hair styles and mobile phones and the like.... basically anything with a status attached to them, is frowned upon. Whereas we lure in potential, pay them more money than they deserve let alone know what to do with, and even move the youngsters and their families out of trouble spots and into nicer areas......also, we had youth players owning sports cars who hadn't had their licence yet, and needed either mummy and daddy or their young Wag to drive them to training....there is a clear difference in approach to the development of youth between the Glasgow side and our Dutch Cousins... Also, the Staff at Ajax, are not only Ex Players, but people who have played the highest levels and who know how to dance on the biggest stage.....our staff, seem to have more '' Rangers '' men in them, than actual coaches, if that makes sense... With an understanding, that our youngsters today have no proper league in which to learn their trade, they often seek loan deals to clubs who's facilities are primitive, and although some may think it can act as a deterant, for them to be greatful for what they have, it can also halt the progress of the player with some good work being undone by the staff of lesser knowledge. So is it now perhaps time, to improve and get the best out of our facilities, and plant the seeds to a new culture at Rangers ? With a new philosophy that is geared to finding, developing and show casing the latest and hottest in footballing talent, perhaps we will never have to have our doors darkened by the shadowy figures who racked up the debt of our club with careless spending again... With the governing bodies doing little to help matters, i think there is an opening for our club to take heart in the likes of Hutton and Adam. To use this as an oppertunity to change the culture at Ibrox..one where we don't hound our young like the two mentioned above, but encourage them and watch them grow into Rangers players we can be proud of... instead of handing them everything on a plate, and watch them turn their coats at the earliest chance. I know such a plan would cost money, and maybe money we don't have, but the existence of our top training complex, is the hardest part.... the rest, in terms of staff, medical personel and scouts with teachers along with a bit of soul searching and a change in attitude from us, is meerely a matter of sound management... Why waste money on the likes of davis...why stress over the problem that is wages...why compete with the EPL on that level, when we can produce our own... have them come to us, and not the other way around... it can be done, but it takes time and management...now, being away from the SPL gives us time, so hopefully we can build a solid management team and system to put the foundations of a new era into play. I know this may sound very dream like, but i can't help but feel the dissapointment of the thought of our team just building a Div3 dream team, winning the league, discarding the players then build a div 2 dream team, and just drain players from other clubs, just so we can get back into the spl... i believe there is a real chance here, to set a very real solution to our problems in motion. As the governing bodies can't be trusted to butter toast, then i think once again, it falls in the hands of Scotland's premier club, to lead the way in youth and player development. By the time we return to our kingdom, we will have shared and spread the wealth of The Rangers throughout the lower leagues, allowing them to prosper, and loosen their ties.. Given credibility to the name '' sporting integrity '' with our time in the lower leagues, and kick started a new era in youth development which will be better for everyone in the long run..... In such a time, we'll have achieved and put more into the Scottish game than Regan and Doncaster could ever dream about doing themselves. we may never have the likes of Johan Cruyff, Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf, and Dennis Bergkamp spawn from Ibrox, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't seek to achieve it.

I dont know why everyones even discussing this , no chance never ever will this come to pass

Think this is a fake account and that there are beggars behind it at the madam

oh for the love of god here we go again