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This whole episode is just sad and pathetic. EDIT: Remember last week mate - Frankie
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Anyone who has bought shares , if you physically have the share certificate in your possession then you should be getting contacted direct with admission details , all those who bought through a broker and have their shares held by the broker , you need to contact them stating you want to get access to the AGM
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Yes it the way they avoid paying corporation tax , one of the companies has around £38 million in debts and loans against it
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Not 100% sure which companies , but they have had multiple share issues
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People seem to think its a disaster that we may need a further share issue , however this was always likely and even looking closer to home , celtic have had a total of 4
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The problems didnt stem fro our formation or players in defense , christ it was Arbroath we were playing , its the insistence on playing players out of position . Andy Little is never a wide player and brings next to nothing , possibly if played forward as part of a 3 , Peralta doesnt look comfortable wide right and it was ironic that his display was markedly improved once he moved into the middle , and I hope Clark has something to offer becasue his first tiouch and ability to hold the ball is awful , however I accept he needs time. We also didnt start the game at anywhere near the tempo of previous weeks and as has been remarked by many , we are a far better team playing at a high tempo
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The country coefficient is very miss leading , a lot of people actually believe that this is the national teams it refers to when in actual fact it only applies to the teams from that country . We need to have stronger teams getting into the Europa league , its ok for the bigger countries when the likes of Stoke , or Newcastle qualify they generally earn loads of points , just look at Romania as an example , their Europa league teams earn way more than their c/l teams
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utter bollocks
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Hutton isnt even in the Villa 25 man squad , he wont even play this season unless he gets loaned out to the Championship , he hasnt played in 4 months
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At the moment we are ranked 78th , the teams and countries Ranked from 62 and up are, Besiktas -turkey ,Hamburg Germany, Brugge Belgium Hapoel Tel Aviv Israel ,Wolfsburg Germany.Panathanikos Greece, Newcastle England,Levante Spain,Salzburg Austria,Sparta Prague Czechoslovakia ,Paok Greece,Udinese Italy,Genk Belgium,Cluj Romania,Young boys Switzerland,Borussia Monchengladbach Germany , Rangers Scotland, and so it goes on teams around us are English ,Romanian, Spanish, Russian , czech ,Austrian , Portuguese , Polish . And I guarentee you everyone will achieve a higher coeficient country average than we do not only because of their C/L teams but because their Europa league teams are stronger , its been happening for years , the secret of these coef aint the C/L its the points that can be picked up in the Europa league , however all our teams cant hack it
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its absolutely negligible , any points a club earns is divided by the entire number of clubs participating from that particular country , so if they earn 3 points and we have 5 clubs each win equals 0.6 points
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we were 92nd ranked but the 08/09 season in europe was a disaster for us m we only won 0.375 points and everyone close lost loads more , however the next 2 years see,s us losing 19 points and dropping like a stone
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Jim Traynor can only do something if the board allow himor even task him to do it , he doesnt have a free license to tackle these things , anyway it should be the legal route we take
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Fair enough , Frankie but guys like McMurdo do more damage than good and his constant muddying of already muddy waters don't help anyone , anyway what wrong with fud , it's a good old fashioned term
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He's a total fud , his defence of Irvine is cringing
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Celtic in a league of their own when it comes to reaping UEFA rewards
rbr replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
There is a very popular myth that whilst we are a financial basket case runs by shysters and crooks ( ok that part may be true lol ) .,the manky mob are a paragon of financial virtue where every season sees them reaping a financial lottery allowing them to hoard a future chest of money that will keep them well ahead for years if not decades to come . As with all of these things the truth is in the details , under the last board and struggling with £18 million of debt (take the BTC aside for the moment ) we continually beat them on the park and also off the park transfer wise , bar McGeady going to Spartak their transfer dealings were pityful. Now we are led to believe that everything over there is rosey bar the £36 million in loans that they are into the CIS bank for and the various other small amounts that they pay as dividends , not accounting for the shares that certain directors hold that Celtic must honour at full value when bought , Celtic have raised money via share issues since 1994 . £26 million was raised in 1994 split between high worth investors ,£12 million to ie wee fergus (£9.3) and £14 million which was bought by over 10,000 fans . 2001 saw a further share issue of upto £22 million , exact details are unknown as to the exact amount raised but the following is an extract from their prospectus which was used to woo high worth investors such as DD , Martin O,Neil , Eddie Jordan and the clubs own Directors and certain players (who were given interest free loans to buy shares ) From the 2001 prospectus it states "The board has examined a variety of funding possibilities before deciding that this imaginative and innovative security is the most attractive to investors. We believe this issue will be very attractive as investors will be offered at a price of £1.25 and will convert into ordinary shares on September 1, 2007. If the ordinary share price at the conversion date is £1.25 or above then each share will convert into one ordinary share. "Shareholders who have made this investment will already be in a position to make a capital gain. If the price falls below £1.25 then the shares will convert into more than one ordinary share. Therefore, the receipt of additional shares will protect the initial capital sum invested. "Each new Convertible Preferred Share will carry a fixed dividend of four per cent, plus a participating dividend that can rise to six per cent, depending on Celtic's progress in the Champions League each year. So the new investment instrument allows investors to benefit directly from success in European competition." Lastly in 2005 a further £15million was raised with DD underwriting £10 million of it , this was to be used to fund the building of lennoxtown, see below . Celtic have announced a share offer designed to raise £15m to fund their new football academy and reduce the football club's debts. Major shareholder Dermot Desmond will underwrite the issue to £10m but insists he does not wish to take outright control of the Glasgow club. Celtic chairman Brian Quinn said it was needed to stay competitive in Europe. "It must give a high priority to finding, developing and training high-quality players," he said. Subject to shareholder approval, 50 million new ordinary shares would be available to existing shareholders and new investors, priced at 30p per share. Celtic have long wished to improve their youth facilities and match that enjoyed in recent years by Rangers at Murray Park and Hearts at Heriot-Watt. The first team is already seeing the enormous benefit of the country's most successful youth development programme Celtic chairman Brian Quinn Quinn's club have earmarked the Lennox Castle Hospital site to the north of Glasgow for their new academy. "The board believes that, as well as continuing to retain and attract experienced players, we must build upon the already excellent results of the club's youth development programme," he said. However straight after this was done , from Celtics own accounts it can be seen that they immediately took out a loan against it from the CIS bank . there is no denying that they are bringing in money by the shed load but on the flip side they are heavily indebted , the Wanyamas of this world do not appear every year and this side dont look anything special , infact the star players which they seem to be banking on to get decent transfer fees are looking decidedly ordinary , time will tell.- 39 replies
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To be honest you were better than Black last season GS lol
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or your a complete yes man
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sorry to be picky but would it not be the case that we reached a final where the other team had already qualified for europe
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Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Payment is in respect of personal income tax and tax liabilty of Ben Nevis, which is King trust co. managed from Guernsey, Channel Islands, South African Revenue Service says in e-mailed statement. • South Africa not pursuing fraud charges against King • King accepts liability on 41 counts of contravening South Africa’s income tax laws. • King to pay fine of 3.21m rand, or 24 months’ imprisonment after he entered into plea, sentencing agreement with National Prosecuting Authority • King ordered to pay 8.75m rand toward Criminal Asset Recovery Asset Fund
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wouldnt hold my breath mate
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It should make certain Directors position untenable more like , this is the last call of the truly desperate
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Anyone any idea how to find out about this , if indeed there is a cut off date
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Was asked this last when is the latest date that would still leave you eligible to attend the clubs AGM
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I have been told that a senior ladbrokes director called Michael O'kane has a lot to do with Black being grassed up
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