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  1. Tannochsidebear
    Agree with most of this, and sadly the bit I put in bold is all too true with our online community these days. If you speak to Bears who do not frequent the online community, they dont really get all fussed about these wind-ups, and dont seem to have the same blood-pressure issues either!
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    And you wonder why we have some "celebrity" fans that think twice about "outing" themselves as bears. It seems you get just as much abuse from your own kind as the bheasts these days. Very sad indeed.
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    Come on guys/gals don't be shy. Whatever we all disagree and debate about on here, when Bluenoses get together over a meal and a few sherbets it is always a worthwhile night out in my experience.
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    So it was the other way around! Cheers Zappa.
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    I thought the HH share sale was in excess of 4M shares, but Ashley has bought exactly 3M shares to take his total shareholding up to 9%, So who bought the other 1m+ shares?
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    I have said the same for 3 years now. Name me a position in our team and there will be at least 3/4 players better than Jig to play there, but he has never been dropped. But he's a good guy and one of us so it doesn't matter if he can't play the game, mark anyone, tackle, pass, organise or read the game.
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    There is no official boycott by any Rangers fans group currently in place. There is one group, SOS, that is currently polling it's members on this. However I would guess that the vast majority of guys signed up as members of SOS already don't go to Ibrox so it wont make much difference. The more mainstream fans groups like the Assembly, Association and Trust are all not in favour of a boycott, but purely ask all Rangers fans to make their own decisions on this and ST renewals. Asking Rangers supporters not to go to Rangers games is a step too far for many thousands of Bears, who while hating the current regime and wanting rid of them as quickly as possible, cannot see it within themselves to not make the weekly pilgrimage to see the team. Back the team, sack the regime seems to sum it up for many. Also taken into consideration is the fear from many supporters that a boycott will lead to another administration event, and may not even rid us of the current charlatans in charge of the club if the manage the situation properly with a pre-pack. Also a worry for these fans is the scenario where, as a last resort, the owners decide to do a sale/leaseback of our stadium in a bid to raise cash to stay in power. I know many fans who think this way and their hearts cannot allow themselves to have contributed to that by staying away.
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    The split between RSC's and ST/public sale of away tickets still requires to be looked at. A large number of ST holders who tick for away tickets end up giving these tickets to RSC's, yet the split given to RSC's is small in comparison, and I believe it has been reduced again over the last couple of years. When the ST holders cancel their tickets that they have been allocated, and the sponsors dont want their tickets, again it is the RSC's that get the email offering extra tickets and they are pretty much always snapped up by them. Obviously BH is not a member of a RSC and therefore may not be inclined to agree that the allocation splits between ST and RSC is the correct one, so if I can ask where you stand on this issue it will be interesting to know what representation the RSC's (the biggest collective chunk of match-attending Rangers fans) are going to have in this new RFB. I noticed that in amongst some ludicrous categories, there was not one for RSC's. That in itself was not a surprise given what I expect this RFB to be, but it remains a glaring hole in representation for a huge number of Rangers fans.
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    Been too busy work-wise for last couple of days so only catching up here now. On pricing, it has been well known for many years that the prices ratch up when Rangers come to town. The usual explanation is that there are added police costs. There have been a few examples in the last couple of season, Berwick for one IIRC. Some google-ing will help no doubt. I have previously taken this up with Doncaster when I met him with the RFWG, and he deflects the issue as being one for each clubs own policy, and will not set rules to defend the fans from this. On the OF game, I personally will not go to the piggery again for a league match while prices remain at around 50% inflated from any other match. The police dictate what amount of tickets are given to each club, the clubs cannot do anything about this, but are probably quite happy with the arangements anyway. Logistically, the shape of our ground makes the Broomy the ideal stand to give them. You couldnt give them half of it, or shove them into the corner due to turnstiles, toilet facilities etc. The same goes for the piggery, the amount and placement of our ticket allocation is the only natural way of giving us a share which works logistically. The police will not be wanting to change this for a long time to come, unless it is to a no away fans policy.
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    As the away fans rep, I am assuming you will be meeting with the Association's Drew Roberton asap to get a grip on away fans issues as this is very much their field of expertise. I would also point out some causes for concern that always come up for away fans include a lack of child & concession tickets available, the profiteering by other clubs in raising normal ticket prices when Rangers come calling, lack of tickets in general for away fans, and the poor share given to RSC's by our ticket office which has caused many good RSC's to either chuck it altogether, use cars or share buses with other RSC's. Good luck with your appointment and in sorting out the above! I have my doubts about the reasoning and real value of the membership scheme from within the club and do not think for a second that you will be allowed any real powers to look after our supporters or take our board to task for their many failings, but the proofed their way is yet to be established. The first task should be to establish fortnightly (at least) meetings, with strict deadlines imposed on the club to reply to any concerns raised. Quarterly meetings will get nothing done. Full and transparent minutes of meetings, both internal & with club officials, should be published within 24 hours of each meeting. Meetings between fans board reps and the club should only occur when at least 3 fans board reps are present.
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    On my bus we do a first goalscorer sweep for every away game. Own goals don't count for this purpose and the prize rolls over to the second goal. If the game finishes 1-0 with an o.g. Being the only goal, we give the prize as if it was 0-0 (the ref wins it!). I agree with Zappa in that it should in this case be Shiels that wins the points. Shame I picked Boyd!
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    Sounds like pushing him too hard to get back quicker and made it worse, or perhaps a mis-diagnosis in the first place. I am not really buying the freak accident line being pushed here by the club.
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    Absolutely disgusting tactics by whoever it was to try to discredit a very worthy candidate for the membership board. I wouldn't be surprised if it was internal at the club given FS's prior dealings with them in showing them up to be idiotic at best. Who would want that type of person holding you to account at board meetings? (Me for one!) Anyway, supposition without any evidence or information on my part and I will leave it at that, whilst hoping FS wins his category at the election (if allowed to continue to seek election!) and can bring some bite to this perceived charade.
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    At the outset when the RFFF was being set up Mark was asked to get involved as he has a lot of clout through his website and his dealings with the RST. It was him who was asked to get involved, not any particular organisation, as he is very good at getting the message out to a large number of Rangers supporters. I know this to be 100% accurate as I got it straight from the guy that asked him to go on the RFFF.
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    The vote by SOS is a fairly useless exercise. If it doesn't return a massive majority in favour of a boycott I will be totally amazed. I would also imagine that most of those voting already dont go to games, either in protest or for financial or geographic reasons. Boycotts are a very personal thing, not something groups should be organising. If you want to spread the word and arrange boycotts and picket lines outside shareholders offices, that would be much more productive IMO. Start a campaign against the shareholders who are propping up this regime, that is more important. Let the fans who hate the regime but cannot turn their back on the team continue to do so. I would never dream of castigating any Rangers fan who wanted to buy a ticket and go and watch a Rangers game. Is that not what we are all about after all?
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    I'm number 42 btw. But I think the point is being missed here. The point is that 8000 different Rangers supporters have joined the RST at one point or another since 2003. Obviously the majority have not renewed at one point or another as live member numbers, while probably being at an all time high thanks to BR, will not be in excess of 2500 I wouldn't have thought. Please note I have no inside info on numbers, just been an interested observer and member since the start. Going back to the point, if the RST, and/or RF for that matter, could get 8000 fans to be paying in a monthly amount at the same time, it would be a great achievement and give us a real chance of progress.
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    Let some make small steps first. A bit like the Scottish Nationalists. They wanted devolution in 1997 but some were scared it would lead to Independance. They said no chance, just give us some power to run some things like health and education and we will be happy. Less than 15 years later the Independance referendum was announced that had not even a glimmer of support a short while before. I think the similarity is there to see, and for the RST and supporters like yourself, let us get the fans on board with fan involvement and share ownership first, let us ensure our stadium and training ground are safe from plunder, then perhaps it is an easier argument to make to those already halfway there, to make the jump to full ownership, or Club Independence if you like.
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    It is time we got in professional fundraisers, marketing people, spin doctors, the whole f'n shooting match to get done what needs to get done. Press, radio, tv, internet all with a rallying cry that Rangers needs saving and the only way to do it is by buying shares. A disaster emergency committee type shock and awe campaign. I have seen it happen in political set-ups where professionally managed fundraisers use social media, written media, telephone, letters, and the funds pour in for things that are not all that important to most of us, but strike a chord with those with an interest in such affairs. Rangers FC is a passionate subject, with followers, supporters and fans all over the world and we can only raise paltry sums in the circumstances we are in. Pah!!
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    Just a thought Rab, but live within our means without external overdrafts or sugar Daddy's? As a business model it is usually a good sign. Of course it means we may never again see world class players in our midst, but the way tv has taken over football and the financial reality of the CL, it was pretty much always going this way for Scottish clubs anyway. What we can aspire to is to be punching above our weight from time to time, taking a few heavyweight teams down as can happen in cup football, and properly invest the spoils from such adventures in a positive fashion. We should be able, with our full stadium every week and marketable OF games, to be competitive in the Europa League where not all the big countries teams take it too seriously, without the need for borrowing. Sadly, all of that is as far away as is it possible to see at the moment.
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    The £13M is a staggering figure, however we all know that pledges and actualities are night and day. I would love to believe that with the right mentality, professionalism, savvy and passion we could get both BuyRangers and RangersFirst up to levels where we are not talking about the possibility of a sale/leaseback scenario happening at our club. If we, the collective of individual fans, already own around 12-13% before this latest attempt by both BR & RF to hoover up more in the new issue, it surely is not that tall an order to make the first attempt to get to 25% to block any sale of our assets. If we could get to anything like that, and then get ourselves organised properly, we could see if we could get ourselves aligned with some of the more sympathetic Independant shareholders (i.e. not-fans), to see if we could get to 50.1% for the AGM and oust this board. Nothing is impossible if we had some proper balls about us. I do not denigrate the fine efforts being made by both RF & BR, all volunteers in their own time and for no pay, but I long for a much more professional, hard-hitting campaign that would not have a few hundred fans signing up for tenners here and there but have tens of thousands of fans donating hundreds and thousands of pounds to get our club back before it is too late, if indeed it is not too late already.
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    And while our fans share purchase vehicles try to sign up as many supporters to small contributions and have got around £45K worth in a couple of weeks, a dogs shelter in Manchester that went on fire killing over 60 dogs has received over £250K in 12 hours in donations. Our club is dying on its arse, has hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of fans worldwide, and has set a 2-week target of just £85K that it is not quite going to reach. One fire at one dog shelter that nobody even knew about two days ago, has blown us out the water without even asking for donations. Makes me wonder in amazement at just what it will take to get Bears involved? The dog fire is an awful tragedy, and for all those dogs to be destroyed in it is truly heartbreaking, so please dont think I am being heartless about that terrible situation, merely drawing a comparison about how quickly money can be raised when the public support the cause and its gets the right profile.
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    Had to be English. Wasn't clever enough to be Wilson and wasn't quite snide enough to be any of the others getting paid by BBC Scotland Sport.
  23. Tannochsidebear
    I am quite sure there are a number of concerned supporters out there that have actually signed up to both, like myself. If they were joined would I sign up at double the amount? Probably not. So with the current situation of having two vehicles, it is working in the sense that, in this one individual instance, they are both getting a small contribution from me towards their share purchase ambitions. Roll that out into many tens or hundreds of supporters that may fall into the same category as me, which is effectively one of giving support to fans groups that get off their backside and try to do something positive, then I can see there being a real advantage in there being two vehicles, for the moment. Lets get the shares bought first, and then we can worry about the politics later. To try to get the politics sorted at the outset is where we have fallen down over the years and prevented us from getting our own club in order by ourselves.
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    Congrats to Rangersitis, clear winner of the "Best explanation of an edited post" category. Not much to smile about these days, and that made me laugh!!
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    It's a very different scenario, as you concede, so I don't really see the point in making the comparison. What I was getting at is do we really need to be bitching about one share purchase vehicle over another, at such a precarious time when what we really need is for fans to be buying into this concept in huge numbers. If bears want to avoid the RST one, go with the Rangers First option, and vice versa. IMO both BuyRangers & RangersFirst should be promoting the other as a valid alternative/complimentary option, not have their members denegrating the other. I dont see the need to have a pop at one of the vehicles, when the bigger picture in this case is oh so much bigger. I have signed up to both, that surely should be the aim for both parties. A day may come in the future when they will have to work together for the common good to combine their voting strength against other shareholders who want to sell off our stadium or something similarly horrible, so lets see if we can keep it positive.
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