Tannochsidebear

My guess is that the RST will collate this money together with the money from their own DD scheme and either give the club a loan to be converted to shares, or wait until the share issue then buy them. Either way the benefits are two-fold; Profits from merchandise goes straight to the club in a far greater proportion than our current merchandise deal with SD, and RST also get to increase their shareholding on behalf of members/fans which while not required just now as the club is in Bears hands, may be important someway down the line if a hostile takeover is attempted. I dont see any negatives.

Superb work by all involved. Not wanting to bring politics into it, but when we have so many homeless needing help, why are we even considering bringing in more refugees from other countries? We clearly are letting down our own, most of whom will have contributed to our society in better times, and at the same time welcoming others from Syria etc who have contributed nothing. Really angers me. Glad our club have done something to help this very deserving cause.

So sad with a young family left behind.

Due to my 20 year and counting ban on all Daily Rhebel products, I refuse to click through any links to this rag. Is it possible for a cut/paste for threads of this nature to enable us to review content without feeling all dirty by being on their website?

A more unprofessional leader I have never come across. A clear patsy for others.

This will prevent us getting some good pre-season friendlies under our belts against superior opposition to ready ourselves for the tilt at 55, albeit for one season only. I like the idea of summer football, i like the idea of the league cup being regionalised and seeded, but you just knew that put all that together by the ones running our game and it would come out an abhorrent mess that this sounds like. It takes only a few minutes to realise this will be used as pre-season friendlies by most clubs, or are we to believe they will all come back for pre-season earlier to ensure they are all ready at top level for mid-July? Also, In most years the teams with a bye will be the only teams that can summon a tv audience, so it wont take BT long to see there is no demand for watching Scottish second tier teams playing pre-season friendlies.

You can tell how some people are by the stories about them you hear. I hear nothing but good things about Colin, so he must be doing a good job, and be a good Bear to boot. Good article that. Compare & contrast to the other thread.

Sums up Jig for me, giving an interview to that scumbag. The worst technically performing captain our club has ever had. Only wish he took Miller with him to Killie.

A model professional he may be, but a terrible football player he is also. His passing, movement, reading of the game, and of course most importantly finishing, are all of a standard that falls far far short of what I want at our club. Jig was also a model professional, as was Neil Alexander and a whole host of others. It doesnt mean we should have them in the team. His place/wages should be better utilised.

The first half started at 7.45 on the clock inside the ground. The second half started at 8.55 due to the 10 minute delay to move fans to another part of the ground.

They give us 8000 and we give them 7500. Police enforce this as the only way they can police and segregate fans properly. If we got to the stage we gave them the 800-1000 in the corner, it would encourage some of their die-hards to go into the Rangers end and this is why the allocations are high. To be honest what makes the OF game such a world-wide hit is the noise generated by two large supports playing off against each other, which then creates a playing environment that players thrive on. I would love to give them nothing at all, and we do not go to the piggery ever again, but it would completely wipe out the atmosphere that makes this game such an attraction to non-OF fans. Like it or not, we are going to be stuck with giving our whole Broomie to them, and getting our 8000 allocation at the piggery as we have had since it was rebuilt. And despite protestations and much online mumping of gums, both sides will sell out their allocations in quick time.

I agree with BH. Sending Bomber on a AEP junket reeks of cronyism. It is not as if he is the most eloquent of speakers. I know the '72 team are all getting on a bit now, but I would have thought that would be far more appropriate, and if nobody was available, a Director.

Nowhere have I mentioned that it is all about effort, fitness or work-rate. I think our current side has all of those three in abundance. My issue with Zelalem is that for all his quality at retaining possession, there is no end product. That pivotal role in the side HAS to be a creator of chances. He should also be chipping in with goals. Our inability to score in recent weeks (Alloa aside) I believe I covered in an earlier post, and it is about the pace we move the ball from side to side at, and the angles of triangular passing into areas that cant be defended easily. We are making it to easy for opponents and I would suggest (unscientifically of course!) that Zelalem is quite happy to keep the ball moving without ever looking for the killer pass, or if he has a chance to shoot. If that is all he is going to bring to the side, he should be the link up man to the defence, not the link up man to the attack. He may have a bright future in the game and he is here to learn and I hope he does, but I believe he needs to add a more cutting edge to his game before he can ever think about playing at a decent level regularly. Again, you put words into my mouth when saying I prefer clueless running-about, but slow getting nowhere possession football is not what brings punters through the turnstiles. Barca-Bayern do not play the same football as us, so the comparison is nonsensical. The pace they move the ball at, and in fact move themselves without the ball, is light years away from what we are doing. Would I like us to play like that, absolutely. Would Zelalem get anywhere near either of them, never. I think it was mentioned by another poster, but Zelalem reminds me of the last couple of years of Barry Ferguson's career, where he made 100 passes a game and none of them hurt the opponent. If that is truly what you want to cheer, fair enough. We most certainly do have differing opinions on the game, and that is what these discussion forums are all about. I enjoy reading your interpretations, I just don't agree with them, but I respect that you take the time to give it such detail and thought and share it and defend it on here.

And I think your infatuation with a "metronome" is totally irrelevant in our game. Give me a proper box to box midfielder who can create goal scoring chances as opposed to a 10 yard square pass specialist all day every day and watch the goals scored increase, and to hell with the pass completion rate and the possession stats when very little, if any, of it creates goals. I know which one is better to watch and is more valuable to a winning team.

There might be the odd diamond in the rough at that level (Jamie Vardy!), but I am concerned that we continue to go after young inexperienced low level operators. It is real quality additions we need to bring in, match-winners, not even more 6 or 7 out of 10 performers. We have a lot of 7/10 players, we dont have anyone who has that bit of quality to win you a game on their own. While I would be happy with the continual addition of younger hungrier players who we can potentially develop and sell on for a good profit, we must add proven quality as well. Fishing about the lower English leagues for bargains is only a part of the story. I personally think the English leagues are vastly over-rated. I have just watched (while working so not so closely) Burnley v Brighton from the second tier. Two of the top sides in that league. The game was rotten and there was a real lack of quality players on show. Go further down the pyramid and the quality gets even more diluted.

He is also a light-weight, goes missing for large chunks of the game, doesn't tackle anybody when we do not have possession, and dances about (like an Arsenal player) with airy-fairy 10 yard passes that hurt nobody. His last good game was at Airdrie, which was also one of his first games. Since then it has been downward in terms of contribution. I will ask this, for someone so good at passing, how many assists has he had? For someone so good with the ball, he has not scored and has probably had about 3 attempts at goal since he arrived. His only significant contribution is in moving the ball 10 yards in either direction. A complete luxury.

To blindly follow or lavish praise just because it is mostly going right would be wrong. My strong opinion is that Kenny Miller is a terrible football player that I think is holding the team back. Unlike the last three managers, I won't lose my job by being right on this. It is only my opinion and I have total respect for the opposite view that Miller is worthy of his new contract if some fellow Bears believe it to be the case. It's not my fault they are wrong! Forums are exactly for this type of thing, and I enjoy the debate and friendly banter. Long may it continue.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day! The magic hat must have slipped over his eyes if he thinks Miller is a good footballer.

i'll pass thanks!!

I agree with most of that BH, apart from the bit where you believe Miller has positional sense. Laugh out loud moment for me there. Think back (or watch for yourself next time) to how many times he gets caught offside, or doesn't make a run into space when a ream-mate has the ball and is looking towards him. His positional sense is like the rest of his game, rubbish! I agree that if the younger players cant get all they need from a gentleman and experienced pro like Davie Weir, then they are not asking the right questions. Miller's role, like McCulloch before him, is purely a waste of money and a shirt that could be used for developing a young prospect.

Thats not the point though I suppose with another new manager at Tannadice he might get a chance to play under MIxu. The point is he could see no future at Rangers when the manager was only interested in bringing in old pros like Boyd, Miller, Daly, Kyle etc while he was not getting a sniff. Hardie may feel the same if someone as bad as Miller (and perhaps Clark could be included in that list) keeps getting games ahead of him.

Giving Miller another year will not help Hardies chances. His lack of first team action while Miller keeps coming off the bench/starting doesn't imply that the manager rates him enough. While Hardie keeps scoring in our U20 and international U21 and Miller keeps playing shit and retaining his place, we could be seeing the Telfer scenario replaying itself.

Where to start with this nonsense! Firstly, he has brought nothing to the team since his substitution appearance against Hibs IN JULY! Absolutely nothing. He still cant trap a ball, cant pass a ball, he now has no pace, and his finishing remains abysmal. I cannot believe for a minute that Warburton has been impressed by his playing attributes this season. He might be a good influence off the field and in the dressing room, but so was Jig and we didnt give him another year (thankfully!). I have no problem if he wants to retire and take up coaching and we let him shadow Durrant in the U-20's to see if he can make the grade. As long as he is not teaching them badge-kissing or how to control a pass by hitting it further away then he might make a good coach, who knows. But to give him another year's playing contract is throwing good money away after bad to a complete mercenary who has always chased the buck throughout his career. Reading some of the comments you would think we were well placed for forwards and cash when the opposite is true. He should have been told to find a coaching role in January as he was not going to play and give his game time to Hardie (a boy with a chance of a future in the game). Is our scouting really not that good that he cannot get an experienced forward much better than this for Miller's wages down south if he wants to retain some experience in the dressing room? I am flabbergasted at this stupid move and the manager has gone down in my estimation with this nonsensical decision. I thought the days of jobs for the boys were long gone but clearly not if you are an ass-kisser like Miller you can still get by without ability.

Thanks for the kind words lads, much appreciated to take the edge off an otherwise horrendous day!!

Did the players never get a break throughout the whole of their contracts? Were they never told to have a few days off during international breaks. I think they did. I can only imagine that the players claiming this were only on one year contracts and so therefore joined the club during pre-season training and left on the final game. Anyone on two year deals would have had about 2 months off between seasons and this would have covered any holiday entitlement. I hope the club defend this action strongly. Not one of the players that left our club in summer 2015 deserve one penny more than they got. They must be named and shamed and questioned about their brass neck. They stole wages off our club for the last six months of their contracts.