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I read that as 'mad-cap' specialists, which gives a good idea of where my head is with this. His figures seem wildly optimistic. His plans seen wildly opimistic. He seems wildly optimistic. I'm not optimistic.

I keep hoping that the number of people willing to broadcast their idiocy to the world will dwindle, thanks to education, modern technology, etc. You have to say, the future is less than bright if the Rangers saga is anything to go by. Dearie dearie me.

Good luck with that. When this was put forward on RM about three years ago there was zero interest.

I dunno, I like him but a couple of weeks of silence wouldn't go amiss. We don't need a battlecry every day.

That Motherwell thing stank, though I think Willie Vass went a little over the top calling it mustard gas. Not a fan of them and hope the craze falls away very very soon.

It's hard to argue with your point Rab, but I fear for the long term benefits if it comes to a war between them & us. It's no way to plan for a successful future. Then again....they started it!

Press record, play & the pause button. When a European film comes on, wait until the action hots up and press pause again. When it goes back to dialogue, just pause. That way, you get a 180 tape with nothing but lusty goings-on and if you can last 180 minutes you're a better man than I.

Nope, completely ignored. I feel a bit silly for having actually asked them nicely. They must have had a right good laugh at me! Pacific Quay are a disgrace. But the wider body is worthy of admiration. Think of the names! Patrick Moore, David Attenborough, Jacob Bronowski, Thingy Clarke who did 'Civilisation', the Open University...while today Brian Cox inspires a new generation of scientists, Dan Cruickshank explains architecture & cultural history, Stephen Fry makes learning admirable and Jeremy Clarkson drives a car. it's more than worth the price of a license fee.

<indignant> Well, I don't! I may hate the SFA and have no time for Levein, but I'm Scottish and have no wish to see my team get gubbed. Bad show, Foggy.

Be some cock or other. Pay them no mind, mate.

I can't afford £500.

Daniel Finkelstein, ex-aide to William Hague when Tory leader & political commentator/leader writer for The London Times, was at the Conservative Party conference yesterday. Speaking to Jim Naughtie about the changing demographic of the people attending, he mused about what it used to be like. Referring to the land of hope and glory, flag waving ending, he said (from memory) 'It made terrible television...like the Nuremberg Rally.' It's cheap journalistic shorthand, from the lowest (like Hugh) to those who would be your leaders (like Daniel). If you despair at it coming from Shug I can only imagine how you feel about establishment figures like Finkelstein using the same references.

Not great on understanding procedure, are they?

The UK requires a strong BBC. It's as much as part of the nation as the monarchy or moaning about the weather. If they abuse their position of power (and which establishment body has not!) they must be brought to book. But to lose a publicly funded cultural organ which operates outwith government control is, for me, to lose an absolutely fundamental bedrock of British democracy.

Well, he's not going to come out and say all is rosy in the garden. Be honest, no-one has taken anything he's said seriously for a couple of years now, so why start now? What would be interesting to see is how the likes of Pacific Quay are reacting to this. While previously they have treated Doncaster (live, on air) with thinly disguised contempt, I'd be willing to bet they received this statement in a far more positive light. The lying, the sucking up, the airbrushing of history, it's like an echo of Stalinst Russia. Fascinating but depressing.

Is it usual to raise working capital from a share issue? Not as if you can do it over and over again.

Muff moaning, doesn't sound like him.

Don't have a lot of problems with Cameron's big society concept, tbh.

Totally disagree with the concept of us trying to lead the SFL. This kind of attitude will do us no favours and win us no friends. Previously I would not have given a shit about that, bitter experience has changed my mind. After the complete shambles of our SPL, we're in no position to tell others what to do. And to be frank, whatever they come up with is likely to better without our involvement - like Leggo, if I was involved I would want to cripple these others bastard clubs to get revenge. That's not a sensible long term plan for the future, no matter how satisfying. I'm happy to see the SFL clubs take the lead. I'm totally against letting the SPL clubs take the lead. I just think we should take a step aside, unless the SFL plans are hugely detrimental to us.

Changed days. But that's what happens when standards slip... (only joking) (but not really)

Just meant I can't see much point in me apologising for things I had nothing to do with, regardless of my opinion of them. Probably not the best example but I'm trying to get my head around oppositional tension and anti-referentiality in the poetry of Yeats so there's not much brain power left over.

We touched lightly on this in a thread a few weeks ago, I think. If I may I'd like to clarify my desire for elitism. In my eyes being a Rangers fan makes you a part of the elite. It's an automatic benefit which comes from supporting the greatest football team that ever has or ever will exist (you may note this feeling is not entirely free from bias). We all know some of our fellow bluenoses let the club down now and again, and thanks to the way mud sticks, we all get tarred with the same brush. But it's only by our own actions that we lose our elite status. The other forum I used to use most certainly allows comment of a nature which makes Rangers look bad. I think there's a need to counter that with a place which doesn't pander to the feeblest elements in Scottish society, comments about Spiers being gay, or allegations of timposterism, and such like. I did post - once - a comment on here which you took to mean I should go elsewhere. What I was trying to say was that if you wanted a certain kind of forum, there are more than one available. It hardly means you have to sod off and never show your face on Gersnet again, tho that is how you took it. I fear I may insult you again when I reveal that I don't recall you being especially guilty of lowering the tone (as I see it) but maybe my memory is getting worse. I fail to see why poor behaviour is automatically 'lower-class'. Anyone who has ever visited one of the national newspaper comments sections will see stupidity writ large on a scale Rangers messageboards could never even aspire to - there's zero connection between behaviour and class in my mind. Fuxake, look at the bloody govt. we have - a bunch of flaming toffs taking a wrecking ball to the last vestiges of community left in the UK. Plenty are calling for them to clear off, but no-one is calling them lower-class! (I don't think they have any class at all, but that's for another day). This is completely class-free as far as I'm concerned - I may be trying to get myself an education but I am hardly an aristocrat. You'll find plenty of 'well-bred' people with no manners, and plenty of 'working-class' people who could mix in any company, were they allowed. I do wish to set your mind at ease that there is a class element to this. There just isn't. Though I must say, after many years of being given stick on RM for being a socialist, it does make an ironic change to be elevated into the upper classes, gazing down upon the plebs through my monocle. It's maybe a poor reflection on both my language and our society that standing up for good manners and decent behaviour is classed as elitism, but there's no point pretending it is anything else. We can all be the elite as long as we are Bluenoses. But when we let ourselves and our club down, I see no reason to sit quietly by and hope it somehow fixes itself.

Not quite such a positive response on RM, though!

On the other hand, with a share issue in the offing it would be remiss of the club to just blithely ignore stories which upset the boat. I have no idea who is right, but I can see why the club would feel the need to respond. Regardless of an ammo it gives papers in a desperately quiet pre-international week I think it's the right response.