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The club have rather gazumped me there, by issuing that curt but necessary statement. /thread, I guess.
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Can't say I have a great deal myself. That's not the point though - we need to disassociate ourselves from extremists. Otherwise the story becomes 'thug Rangers fans victimise brave journalist & wife' rather than 'BBC reporter spends two years winding up fans and finally gets a slap on wrist.'
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Mather, dignity and decency. Nope, they don't sound right together. Every time he comes out with one of these infantile tantrums I like him less and less.
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I'm interested to know whether or not I'm in a minority of one on this. Spence, despite being a wretch, claims to have been hassled in the street while out walking with his wife. I'd like the club to officially deplore such incidents because this way we not only (hopefully) deter the more aggressive fan from causing trouble but keep the focus on the journalist, not us. Aside from which, depending on how heavy the hassle was, its not really on either. I suppose this could be seen as a bit grovelly but we really need to up our political game because atm we are outsmarted every time. Yes, journalists, managers and players have been hassled by fans for decades without feeling the need to call (a) the police and (b) the papers but in the publicity war we are losing, heavily. 'Yes' to a statement or apoplectic 'get stuffed you handwringer'?
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You don't have to be paranoid to find that hugely fishy.
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Black gets a 10 match ban with 7 of them suspended
andy steel replied to Zappa's topic in Rangers Chat
Ideally I'd love us to be paragons of virtue, but having listened to Tam Cowan bleat on about how we HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD to sack Black because we sacked Sandaza, I'm in no mood to do anything our enemies wish us to do. Having watched David Murray run the place for decades (you know my politics) I gave up on hoping for any kind of morality in the game. The example from south of the border is just the logical conclusion of where its been going for years and years, and I can't see any gestures made by Rangers being anything more than that. That said, I will never be reconciled to Ian Black wearing a blue jersey and if the club wanted to bag him I wouldn't mind in the least. But - realpolitik again - as a club we are in the shitter and Black looks like he may play a small and hopefully quickly forgotten role in getting us up a few leagues. -
Their interest is that if the case goes against Rangers, the SFA will then feel able to use our claims of a continuing history to once again attempt title stripping.
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Black gets a 10 match ban with 7 of them suspended
andy steel replied to Zappa's topic in Rangers Chat
Realpolitik. We got rid of a high earning waste of a shirt who clearly wanted to be elsewhere. Completely hypocritical but I'd do it again tomorrow in the same circumstances because, bluntly, we're not here to set a moral code for the game. -
Requisition withdrawn & shareholders to vote at the AGM
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'Many are clamouring', are they bollocks. Reminds me of when I used to buy the Morning Star, and they would talk about support flooding in from across the UK for a protest march or whatever, and you'd wander along on the Saturday morning and find about 50 bored students counting the hours till the pubs opened. If there's one thing we as a support are united on, it is that we don't clamour for anything. -
'Silk' Rangers scarf - vote for your favourite design.
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My late uncle bequeathed me the silk scarf. It was absolutely beautiful. I wore it to one game and felt like a millionaire. Clothes makesth man, indeed. It is to my undying shame that I lost it. I can handle chucking out my programme, videos and strip collections from the 1980s and 1990s, we had no room and a young family, but the scarf...it pains me to this day. -
My reading on the DDR was done about a decade ago, in the first rush of historians to get hold off interviews with Markus Wolf and the like, and of westerners moving into Osty homes and pretending to live the harsh reality...the bullet scarred streets, where the Red Army chased out Adolf, the fences, the wall and so on. I don't know that it is one way information, because what I recall of it was heavy with peoples' life stories, how they were harassed and harried. It seemed pretty grim, anyway. I'm going up the Uni library later on and instead of boring old studying what I'm meant to be I shall gather what I can on the western, post-Communist take on the DDR because, frankly, it's more interesting than the poetics of urban space. As for the allies after WW2, I still yell 'Nazi swine!' with great indignation at the TV every time Werner von Braun happens by in a NASA documentary. Rocket genius or not, he should have been shot.
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Bloody interesting diversion, though. What about the industrial sized spying on the entire population? You have said yourself that you'll have a file; no doubt there are plenty of files in the UK's offices somewhere too, but to spy on an entire nation? The image in my head of the DDR is a complete psychological basket case so its really interesting to hear of people presumably going about their daily lives without the dread 3AM knock at the door looming ever present in their minds. In final protest against the Actually Existing Socialism of that state, I must say that some of your lady athletes were a little hairy.
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True about the penalty, tho it would have been soft. I didn't think any Scotland player gave the ball away too badly, and that was the reason we played well and won.
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A very necessary reminder of the bones of this whole shambles. Great read.
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They seemed especially nasty in that book 'Stasiland', to be honest. I do not believe that any western European secret service, then or now, indulged in phsyical and psychological torture to the extent of the stasi. I know the Czech secret service were a a rotten lot too but still, I'm surprised to see you write that.
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AMMS: I think the club itself is going to have to do a lot more - and it has done much - to make it clear that if you are going to act like this, it doesn't want you. I don't know if it will, there's a lot of ubers who are inside Ibrox. But that's what I would hope for. I know it will piss a lot of people off and moves attention from haters to us (yet again) but we need to cleanse the temple in order to take on the moneylenders, if you'll forgive the mutilated metaphor. And you'd be right. But: is exactly what will happen, like it or not. And it is SO frustrating to actually have one of our main enemies in your grasp only to see your own bloody side let him escape. However, if this does go higher we still have the factual stuff to lean on: ideally we'd be able to call up a dozen regional journos from the BBC in England and ask, how do you refer to Team X which suffered the same fate as us? And they'd be obliged to reply, same as we did before, leaving it pretty obvious the only reason one team gets special treatment is to wind up that clubs' fans. But trying to get a BBC reporter to give such evidence now, since the thing has been escalted into a freedom of journalism shitstorm, will be hard. Again, an open goal missed thanks to what I believe is a thundering bad tackle by players who claim to be on our side.
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But Frankie, if we had boxed clever we could have given them no room to wriggle out of it. I'm not saying don't take the BBC to task, I'm not saying don't complain. But every time we get someone on the rack, a great horde of nitwits come thundering over the horizon shouting about ****** this and kafflick that. We're never going to get anywhere until we make it super clear that this pish has got to stop. It needs shouted from the top of the club down to the smallest messageboard. Or else, we stay where we are, as you say, dehumanised and marginalised. I'm sick of that everyone is sick of it, when are we going to do something about the lumpen pseudo-religious idiots who manacle themselves to Rangers, dragging the club down with them? /rant
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Well said, sir. I have to admit to going through a period of hating the SFA & that affected my support for the national team; but I've moved on and last night was just great. Really enjoyed it. I have to say I thought Brown did very well & that was the first time I've ever seen him playing decently. If he stopped trying to be the world's hardest nut (which he is plainly not) he could be a real player.
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What could have been a victory heads rapidly for a defeat. Chapeau to the morons on twitter using religion to abuse Spence, as well. Really showed the club & fans up in a great light, that.
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Plainly the hackers have already been through my financials and realised it wasn't worth their while bothering...I only had to change mine once. Hard up Loyal.
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Police Scotland to investigate internally about our leaks?
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It does suggest deflection; my hope would be that that means there is actually something to deflect from, i.e. someone getting their collar felt. -
I hadn't seen the idiot's Pastor Neimoller tweet until a moment ago. Fair enough, coverage like that really needs taken to task.
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It's hardly ignorance is bliss. It is knowing when you have won and when the other party is on the back foot. Had it been complaint-response-media reporting, the story as it stands today would have been all about BBC Scotland and Spence. As it is, it is about the twitter shambles of Spiers/Keevins. We only need to recognise that sometimes, when you win even a tiny victory, rather than charge forward looking for a bigger one there is more to be gained by digging in where you are. The only people who expose Rangers FC to trouble over dodgy songs is the supporters of Rangers FC. Unless the Beeb put a 1980's oundtrack over a modern game (I wouldn't put it past them, mind you) we control that agenda.
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Still think we're taking it too far, because nothing more will be done. Already seen the ranks close behind the idiot. Email agreed with fans it was badly put (de facto chastisement of the idiot), papers reporting it as an apology. If people are looking for Spence to kneel in the rain outside Pacific Quay and beg our forgiveness they're going to be disappointed - we've squeezed this one for as much as we'll get. Course, I could be wrong, and the Trust will suggest sacking him.
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Police Scotland to investigate internally about our leaks?
andy steel replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
So, after all the illegal leaks, false trails, assumptions of guilt and downright bullshit, the main focus of the police investigation is now 'who tried to expose the RTC blogger?' Sounds like Timmy's usual establishment fantasy crap, tbh.