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If you have a pal who's desperately ill, and one of your mates merely looks on and does nothing, while everyone else does sponsored walks or at least sends a card, you're entitled to call out that mate. We have to step up and, at the very least, realise that our club is in mortal danger. Just wheeling along and saying 'I'm only really interested in the fitba' will leave us, in my reading, with no team to bowl along to watch, at least as we have known it. There's a difference between criticism and abuse and frankly, Frankie, if we're to censor talk on this most vital of subjects you might as well pull the plug. While SC and others may consider the pointing out of their stance to be criticism - personal, unjustified or otherwise - what it actually is is an expression of disbelief that any Rangers fan could have taken in the last two to three years and insist that on the field only is what interests them. The rate we're going we won't have a team to support in any way, shape or form and there's little point pretending otherwise.
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SFA Notice of Complaint: John Gemmell (Stenhousemuir)
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No-one needs to complain, Mr Lunny will be offended on behalf of whomsoever he pleases. Strange days.- 16 replies
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SFA Notice of Complaint: John Gemmell (Stenhousemuir)
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Echt, done and forgotten already. If they didn't need to be seen to be even handed in their desperate protection of one person this would be relegated to the dustbin, where it belongs.- 16 replies
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I don't know if that's quite on, SC - plainly no-one can judge you as a person if they don't know you, but you are clearly and unequivocally saying that you judge this team, and it's manager, without reference to the situation the entire club is in. That's just bloody weird, and I don't mind 'judging' you in that regard. Now, whether you give a monkeys about my judgement is another matter!
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These bastards are not our club, mate.
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Totally agree with CalScot & CD- had King done what many want and flung (say) £20m at Rangersd before now, every penny of it would have been pissed away. Where's the sense in that? We should be grateful various boards/challengers were incompetent enough not to impress him enough to get his wallet out because afaics it's only King and his wonga which is between us and continuing financial woes. And we'll get one go at his money, so it better count.
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Even by Irvine's crass, moronic, aimed-at-dimwits tabloid standards, this is both blatant and a new low. And it should be borne in mind that Irvine only does what the board tell him. And before you ask, it's because about a week ago, when the players rejected the cut, AMMS posted on here that the PR policy would thereafter be to focus attention upon the players and the coaching staff. Hey, presto! However, let's accord these rats a level of decency they plainly don't allow us, the fans, and have a look at it. First, the name: 'Rangers transparency'. You want transparency, we'll give you transparency!Here, have a look at what Super Ally is getting! Maybe a slightly more subtle nom-de-merde next time. Next: 'Some of you may not be aware, so here's all the details!' By gum, we run a poorly communicated organisation, a newly set up company, where half the people in charge don't know what salary levels are being pegged at. Or else, we're quite good at adding extraneous little phrases in an attempt to justify a leak. Next, 'the executive felt it was misleading': do we actually have evidence, here, of Mr Charles Green avoiding doing something which might be slightly misleading? If so, I suggest we donate a screenshot to the Kelvingrove as some kind of historical document. Ally's overpaid, & he had any sense he'd have slashed his salary donkey's ago. However, at least (and some would say it is quite little) he has put back into Rangers in terms of teams, results, and efforts. There are those - and not a million miles away from the content & origin of this email - who are taking an doing no giving whatsoever. I'll reserve my utter contempt for them.
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AMMS told us last week this would happen.
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Keith Jackson: Rangers want players to take a pay cut..
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Anyone else think there's definitely a desire amongst some of the louder critics to see Rangers slumming it? There's getting the finances in order and there's turning up to the game in a wheezy old charabanc, staying at Ma McGlumpherty's Guesthouse before a match and running out in strips with holes in them. In fact. I think next season we should bring out a 'hair-shirt' top, and replace the pitch with ashes. But again, it doesn't deflect - or we shouldn't let it deflect - from the truth at the heart of the message.- 53 replies
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Stuart Waiton - Comment: Law must focus on actions, not words
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Just the same, we shouldn't let strident extremist shrieks that we should behave like a third tier side deflect from the absolute need to get the house in order. It would be easy to retreat into a defensive shell against media types but the basic message is fair enough, I think.
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I can't see any logic in a conviction meriting absolutely no punishment, at all, of any kind, Scott.
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I should think they would find it odd - & I actually think this legal wallah, who has decided to invent a new system of law in Scotland, whereby if a Sheriff disagrees with legislation he can just blithely sweep it aside, wants looking at too. I must admit, my support for the Bill, which was entirely predicated on helping Rangers FC to avoid bad publicity brought about by Rangers fans, is waning very quickly. It really is a bit of a shambles.
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When we were a-discussing this a while ago, BH, you replied that you were sure it was aimed at all people, not just Bears or even the OF. This decision kinda flies in the face of that! 'It's OK to shout FTP, as long as you're not a Rangers man, and it's OK to FTQ if you like, so long as you're not a Tim!'
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Easdale brothers to plough £20m into Rangers
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Well, fair enough. I always thought that in addition to being a simply superb central defender Miller was a bit sharper than your average footballer. But he was going off at the deep end yesterday, right enough.- 74 replies
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Easdale brothers to plough £20m into Rangers
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I heard Willie going tonto as well. Puzzling, was it not? I can only assume he's part of that group who will be forever convinced we cheated them, despite judgement to the contrary. Radio Scotland have rather let the mask slip a tad this weekend. While only a loon could argue that we need to cut costs, they have been talking about 'behaving like a third division team' and comparing Rangers to Leeds, who, apparently, have had to give up on the notion of being a big team. We, of course, should do likewise. Different is, of course, is that in England there were loads of teams willing to step up and replace Leeds as a decent sized EPL team; in Scotland, dross like St Johnstone attract a Conference sized crowd and offer football of a similar standard. We may be in need of some surgery, but we'll never be the wee team some people are desperate to see us become...I hope.- 74 replies
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Not if it means cosying up to one party and one party only like Timothy does. Like Bears who can't be bothered with politics, I imagine celtc's banging on about being a left wing club (aye right!) must piss off their fans who are either apolitical or non-Labour...I can't see any advantage to following their example. It may look attractive in terms of getting results, but it stinks nonetheless.
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I once met John Wark and nearly burst into tears. I was 38. Anonymous Ipswich fan. The news that greeted us on Saturday morning, that the body of the wee boy missing in Edinburgh has been found, is another sad reminder that childhood is fleeting, precious, and not always golden. At least for those of us on Gersnet, the vast majority of whom are (well) past childhood, our own youth has come and gone without such horror being visited upon us. We, the lucky ones, get to carry our memories into middle and older age, like everyone some good and some bad, though hopefully precious few as awful as what has happened to poor Mikael. He whose life has been one uninterrupted series of happy events is rare indeed, but I'd guess that at least we share in common memories of a time in our lives when our beloved football team losing made us cry, when the stadium loomed up above us like a colossus, and when the thought of actually meeting one of the Titans who wore a Blue Shirt would have reduced us to jelly. These childhood affections many of us, to judge by the amount of time we waste on online forums, carry with us well into maturity. And elsewhere, too. I still regale strangers with the time our present manager touched my shoulder and said 'excuse me, mate' in a Blockbuster sometime in the 90's; I also once, when he did some shopping in the store I was managing at the time, went before him crying 'make way! make way!' (I kid you not), quite brutally hustling innocent shoppers out the road lest they impede his Majestic progress. At least he had the decency to be embarrassed at my behaviour, which only stopped short of bestrewing his path with rose petals because we had sold out of roses by that point. On both these occasions I was well past childhood, but the football remained a link between me and mini-me, between the rather disappointing man I turned out to be and the child who dreamt of playing for The Rangers, and maybe one day coming into the presence of my heroes. I wonder how many kids still have that dream? Maybe loads do. They'd have to be very unworldly, though, as another week of internal combustion to make James Watt green with envy puffs its way to an end, without even a Saturday game to 'take the taste away', as my Mum used to say when giving me a sweet treat after some ghastly medicine. Who is developing a romatic attachment to a club which seems be determined to set a record for employing the most amount of executives for the least amount of return in sporting history? Just as Monty Python once sent out two teams of philosophers, Greeks v Germans, we're well on the way to being able to fill the bench with accountants...a shame none of them appear worth taking a chance on, even for the last two minutes. It's just not the same. Being able to hide inside the mind of 10 year old me at the football has been a lovely pleasure these last 30 years, but I might as well face up to the fact that that pleasure has gone now. It's not as if I could only handle success - growing up in the 80's I despaired of ever seeing us beat Dundee, let alone celtc or the dominant Aberdeen or Dundee Utd of the time. What a shock it was to me when Ally McCoist got selected for Scotland squads from about 1985 on - such a thing didn't happen in my youth. No, it's not that I can only support Rangers with childish fervour if we are winning: it's just that the thing I fell in love with aged about 8 or 9 doesn't seem to be there any more. Probably this is more due to a long overdue opening of my own eyes rather than anything else: Rangers under David Murray was hardly an shining example of philanthropic goodness along the lines of Dickens' Mr Brownlow. But now, with the club run and owned by Mr Downlows, it just seems...soiled, somehow, and all the more painfully because it's killing off the last little bit of my childhood I could hold on to. Obviously I only speak for myself, but this, to me, will be the legacy of people like David Murray, Craig Whyte, Charles Green Jack Irvine or the Easdale brothers. You may imagine how I view such people. In the grand scheme of things, forcing a delusional 40 something to open his eyes is not such a big deal to anyone other than the person himself, I suppose: certainly, compared to other things which could have happened, it is of no importance at all. But it feels like it is, to me. And that's why it hurts so much. For what it's worth, we play Forfar on Monday night, and will no doubt turn in another performance of depressing mediocrity. My 12 year old rarely lasts more than 10 minutes watching us on TV and I can't say as I blame him. Sheer habit will drive me to sit in front of the telly come half seven Monday night, but I can't seem to be able to tap into the decades long, childlike joy that the Blue Shirt used to give me. Perhaps, on this weekend when one childhood has been so cruelly cut short, that is appropriate enough.
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Ian Hart - People are causing alarm. Rangers will go forward
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It's always someone else's fault when things go wrong at Ibrox, usually someone safely out the way and now we can move forward blah blah blah. I'm fed up with that excuse coming out of the director's box.- 27 replies
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The Goalie - Confirmed new Ayr UTD goalkeeping coach
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Andy Mitchell contract terminated "by mutual consent"
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Easdale brothers to plough £20m into Rangers
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Nihilist Loyal! I know what you mean, though.- 74 replies
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Easdale brothers to plough £20m into Rangers
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If there was a £20m investment coming into the club, there would have been no need for even an informal suggestion of an across the board, one size fits all wage cut of 15%. A targeted approach, weeding out the highest earners/least efficient contracts would have done the job in a far more professional manner, and the club, safe in the knowledge that £20m was coming, would have held more cards in its hand when it came to negotiating deals. Unless, unaware that this munificent bounty was about to befall him, Graham Wallace just breenged in anyway, which suggests he is either out of the loop and a waste of money, or totally incompetent and a waste of money, in which case the first place to make a cut would be his salary. As usual with stories about Rangers which emanate from inside the club, when you try to add 2+2 you rarely get 4, and this sounds like the most transparent attempt to deflect from the horrible atmosphere created entirely by the club's own actions on Thursday. Still, I daresay some will believe it, and little wonder, because we're all desperate for an end to the lies and convulsions.- 74 replies
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Well said, Comrade!
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What, ever?