craig

Yep, couldn't agree more. I think that particular moment was a catalyst moment for him. His reaction that day was understandable, but also can have the effect of everyone thinking the job was done. I suspect he saw that after the game and said "that won't happen again - not in front of the cameras - until something is actually won"

Gattuso on the bubble with Napoli too. They are looking at Benitez, though not sure why he would go to Napoli when he could go to Celtic....

Gerrard out then

It is something that they still don't understand. The alarming (for them, not us) downturn in their fortunes is as much the fault of the support as it is their Board. The Board over there have penny pinched their way to a 9IAR* whilst using useful idiots in the media to talk up the transfer fees they both receive and pay, allowing their fans to believe that they are far superior to us in every way. Had they not been so obsessed with Rangers, Res 12, Sevco, new club, no trophies, admin 342 - then they may have actually held their Board to account. But they are so consumed by Rangers and their attempt to obliterate us - to literally kill us off - that they have sat idly by whilst their Board have brought in a cheap manager, poor backroom staff, recruitment policy which is scattergun, awful European results etc etc. But their focus on us has been to our benefit as we have quietly gone about our business of improving everything we do. It is glorious.

As Bill says, though in some cases minus the mafia, lol. Debt factoring is effectivey selling the money people owe you to someone else for a discount, but the risk is shifted to the factoring company. And it certainly can have the tendency to feel like it is racketeering. Example - say Barcelona owe Liverpool £30 million or Coutinho. Liverpool fear that they may not receive that cash from Barcelona. Instead of losing the money they might factor it (effectively sell it) to a debt recovery company for 80% of the debt owing. So the debt recovery company pay Liverpool £24 million (80% of the £30 million). Liverpool lose £6 million from what they were owed but they get £24 million, potentially £24 million more than they would had they waited for Barcelona. the debt recovery company now have to try to collect that debt from Barcelona - they may negotiate with Barcelona for, say, £27 million - they then receive £27 million from Barcelona, minus the £24 million they paid to Liverpool, and have made £3 million profit. I havent seen much factoring on my accountancy travels but there are some specific rules around accounting for them. They can be above board but also, just looking at the above would also have you fear this type of business would attract less than desirables. Factoring companies can take massive cuts from the amounts due - 30%+ wouldnt be unsurprising.

The Rangers ones sell out really, really quickly. Costing me a fortune.

The way it was worded wasn't that way, IMO. But I did take that into consideration. They denied Celtic a further 4 points but only "took" 2 points from them Either way, I am sure that neither you, John or myself will be complaining about it

2 points

The condescension is beneath you.

That is undoubtedly a "wasn't my fault I'm a pish keeper" - throwing his old boss under the bus to save his own career

Maybe not twice, but a better player for sure. Subjectively opined

Not sure why given the fine job Moyes has done there

It is more than that mate. Rumour is that Liverpool have tendered it to a factoring company.

That is correct

Barcelona apparently have over 1.1 BILLION EUROS of debt. That is a remarkable number.

Oh, something of that quantum certainly shouldnt go "on the nod". But then neither should ANY payments, certainly not from the public purse. Should be proper procedures in place to ensure it isnt just a "friends and family" policy of "just give them what they want". Agreed on the rest

Oversight doesn't necessarily mean an audit after the fact though, that's my point. You don't audit every single transaction in any organisation. This one would undoubtedly be considered material, but that still wouldnt guarantee an audit, though I would be surprised if they didnt. There is no need for an audit if you have appropriate controls, procedures, segregation of duties all followed prior to making any such payment.

I would have thought that there would be procedural needs prior to agreeing payouts, though in fairness it does make sense to have the public audit services also undertake an audit of said procedures, certainly given the quantum and high-profile nature

Are they ? Wasn't aware of that.

Legal settlements in civil actions aren't about merely replacing lost income. Could it be a reward ? Sure. Doesnt mean it is though.

Lampard has taken a season and a half spent £200 million this summer (on very good players it must be said) yet still didnt know his best team. Lampard at Celtic wouldnt't scare me at all. Gilmour going to Celtic is a non-starter IMHO.

there is absolutely NO chance is Billy Gilmour going to Celtic. He is the future of Chelsea - in fact, he should be a first choice ahead of Kovacic. They should, IMO, build the team around him because he dictates play and tempo.

Between the two of them ? Possibly.

Reputational damage. Liquidators and administrators make oodles of money.