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Many seem to think that Sanity Claus is coming to Ibrox soon, bearing many sack loads of money. As money doesn't seem to be an issue for them. A club and it's support addicted to hopeful rhetoric (eg. annual declaration that a player trading model is the way forward) and financial losses. Listen to John Bennett. He was the first person in a position of power to seriously begin to address the issue. Clement is our first manager who seems to have accepted that direction of travel and 'invested' in it. Break the habit!!

If everyone was fit and available I don't think Matondo starts, I think Cortes and Cerny are wide and Bajrami goes to 10. Guessing Clement's ideal team is a bit difficult as he's prone to changes that don't always make sense to me. But I think you could guess at Butland, Tav, Souttar, Propper and Jefte, Raskin and Barron, Cortes, Bajrami, Danilo and Cerny as the most likely side. Currently Tav might find his place under threat, Balogun might start depending on who we're playing, Dessers might be number 9 and not Danilo. The point is though you're still looking at at least 5 'new' signings in the starting line up. I really don't think that's relying on the old guard, that's using the resources at your disposal. Dessers is far from good enough in my opinion, but he's currently the best forward at the club so what can we do. Danilo might turn out to be better, in flashes he's looked decent, but none of us know yet. I get the criticism of our domestic performances of late, we're not entertaining and we're not clinical. I don't think the answer is to change the manager though. I think Clement is a good manager, he's proved that elsewhere. Changing manager every autumn is not the answer to our issues, sure there might be a bounce, the last 3 managers have enjoyed that, but ultimately all ran into the same issues. Someone has to be given time to solve them. There are systemic problems behind the scenes at the club. Until we've key positions filled and everyone is pulling in the same direction it's impossible to judge to how good a job our manager is actually doing. Clement made a telling comment after a match a few weeks ago when he was asked about someone who had picked up a knock, I paraphrase but he said something like 'thankfully that's one of the few jobs I'm not being asked to do, our medical staff will will assess him...'. The inference was I was brought in to do a specific job but that's not how it's turned out. It might simply be excuses or frustrations, or I might be reading way to much into it, but judging anyone's ability while the club is so chaotic behind the scenes is unfair I feel.

Players will pick up injuries, particularly with the amount of games we play, we can't expect no injuries. My point is that our injury situation this season is on a par with Celtic's, arguably it's been slightly better. That's an improvement on the last couple of seasons. It's only November, we'll need to see what the winter brings, but in my opinion the injury situation is a bit better, so far, this season. Domestic football has been poor recently, there's no denying that. Of the signings made during Clement's time only Igamane, Kelly and Nsiala aren't regular starters. Kelly was always signed as a back up to Butland, no one expects him to start, do they? I don't think anyone has seen Nsiala before or since he joined us, I guess he was a gamble, no idea if it will pay off. Igamane, so far, looks like a poor signing. He's only been at the club for a few months, so far too early to write him off, but he's got a way to go before he's ready. Those 3 apart, Diomande, Barron, Jefte, Bajrami, Cerny and Propper are regular starters, most are first choices. Cortes, when he's fit, usually started too. Kasanwirjo is featuring regularly now too. For that reason I think your 'old guard' comment is unfair, we literally don't have any other players to choose, we have to play some of the players who were at the club before Clement. You can complain about the lack of signings, but you can't criticise the manager for not choosing players that don't exist.

The voice of sanity. I’ll calm down now.

Aye, some may be interested but they won't bother bringing their wallets because they know our negotiating position is terrible. "Get your Rangers players here, two furra pound" Summer window Permanent deals Lammers, Goldson, Cantwell, Wright and McCrorie. Plus 4 Loans including Davis Total incoming: 810,000 sterling Source: Rangers accounts

I want to know what's happened to Bailey Rice. Think he was playing for Scotland under-19s the other night. If he is not going to be a starter for us then he should be let go. If 16 year olds can start and star for Barcelona or for EPL clubs then they can start in Scotland. Don't give me all this "the SPL is too competitive for youngsters as managers want to protect their jobs": the same applies in any of Europe's big leagues.

We would be in a far better place (for years) had our managers (including the current one) discontinued the system that does not work in Scottish football. We are probably the god-kings of possession and chances created. And likewise the god-kings of missed chances and goals conceded from a minimum of opportunities of the opposition. The bucket is with the manager.

We draw 2-2 with Motherwell yesterday in a bounce game with Curtis and Propper scoring. For those who'll instantly jump in and say this is evidence that Curtis should get an opportunity in the 1st team, it's worth noting that PC has given competitive minutes to 1 player under 20 since he took over. Thats less than any of our previous 3 managers.

Watched it sheep beat us on penalties in final,scum finished bottom.

Buy one get one free and double Nectar points

Brave of you to loan players to our direct rivals...

The time has passed, but I'd have offered them circa £2.5M in the summer but with us paying his wages and loaned him back to Motherwell for the season. Don't know if they'd have gone for it, but it would have been worth exploring.

Gaza alone was worth the cost of your season ticket .icket

You're assuming Motherwell will want Rice (who walked out on them to come to Rangers) and Devine who couldn't hold down a regular position when he was on loan there.

Every little helps in our position, if it knocks 100,000 off the asking price and we get a youth that will never make the cut out, and another going to a club with a rep for giving youth a chance, I don't see the negatives in at least looking at it. We can't compete financially with the other clubs likely interested, so we need to get creative with deals

Been injured for much of the past year.

He was, but only came on as a late sub from what I saw. We should be going after Lennon Miller and using Bailey Rice on loan as a sweetener, they can have Adam Devine too

We all want to break the habit, but breaking the habit doesn't mean we can't compete. We play in the SPL and have been unable to challenge for 14 years (give or take). That's the habit I want to break and that doesn't mean or take untold millions. Beat the rest of the SPL regularly and taking momentum into the OF games, winning 50% should see us neck-to-neck in a title race. To make that happen our players need a system that they can play in and trust, be fit (mentally and physically), be prepared to fight every second of every game. That all comes down to coaching and is as far as I am aware, free of charge. This acceptance that we need millions that isn't there to challenge is a fallacy. We need the right people in place and we'll be 90% of the way there. We have accepted that we can't challenge and excuse this as we've been told "it's a rebuild" - how long are we going to accept this? Another 5 years (that'll be 2 decades in total)? Or do we reset our mindset and realise it doesn't take a lot to challenge in Scotland - be managed correctly on and off the pitch, it's really that simple. EDIT - we do realise that Celtic pay their players less in wages and pick up better players than us on lesser fees?

In my opinion, Kelly was signed to replace Butland but for some reason, we didn't receive the bids we thought were incoming. Cortes is still unkown, he's hardly featured due to injury so the jury is still out. Jefte only featured as Ridvan was injured, otherwise Ridvan was our starting left back (in fact the experts in our support had Jefte written off in pre-season). I can't agree with Diomamde, he hasn't cemented a starring place, he's only playing as our number 10 is playing wide left and our other number 10 is injured. As you say, we are only in November but we've not seen Ridvan, Danilo, Cortes or Matondo who would all be starters (Clement started Danilo over Dessers). Kasanwirjo is starting to feature but isn't a regular starter. He looks far more comfortable at CB than he does at RB. I think Clement has signed 11 players, that's an entire team so you can't say there is a "lack of players".

It’s about time we gave some of these youngsters a run out see if they can do the job of being a Rangers player you never know we may unearth a couple of Bobby dazzlers ,GIVE THE LADS RUN IN THE TEAM .

We might well be - but the facts are they scored goals in 1-0 wins, so if they hadn't we'd be worse off. Dessers has scored 10 goals in 20 games in a team who don't create chances. He is on course to score 20 goals in back-to-back seasons. So we have our 20 goal a season striker we were all crying out for.

That's @der Berliner's Christmas present sorted:

Since our conversation on this, I listened to the Clement presser that was released on Saturday. He basically says as much and is having a go at the lack of support from upstairs, in terms of communication of the ongoing financial impediments. Gilligan isn't doing what he said he would, only 6 or 7 weeks ago.

I'm not saying it is easy but if the club want to keep the current manager, he needs to communicate that the blame for what is going on is at various levels of the club and put more focus on the harsh reality of our finances. I don't envy him. This has got to a point where Gilligan may be wishing he had declined the offer of interim Chairman.

It isn't about geeing us up. It is about being realistic. Clement is left to try and communicate this message when Gilligan expressly said that he would talk about the numbers/upstairs stuff and let the manager get on with the football. Waiting for the AGM would be fine if the situation was normal, it isn't. Of course, the alternative is that Gilligan comes out and tells us that Clement is gone. Is he hedging his bets ?

John Gilligan needs to show some leadership. Early in the coming week he needs to talk to the support about our financial position. Especially, in relation to how that effects the football department and what are realistic expectation levels. The video the club put out doesn't cut it. Should have been done last week.

Post Tenebras Lux was a Huguenot motto. I can only hope it's true, otherwise we're f*cked.

I wonder how many of our directors would walk away tomorrow if their loans were paid back to them

Agreed. Back in the box ‘til we win the League again. In the meantime:

Time to ditch Tina Simply the best for something more appropriate